(8-05a) 4UC Aztec: Telpochcalli Bonus Counting Previous GA

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This is a thread for discussing the addition of 2 more unique components to the Aztec civilization.

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(8-05a) Aztecs Alternative, affecting (8-13) Egypt

Current: Proposition: 1. Retain Floating Gardens instead of the Telpochcalli can be built in city without River +3:c5food: Food, +2 :c5culture: Culture +1:c5food: Food, +1 :c5production: Production for every 4 :c5citizen: Citizens +2:c5food: Food on Lakes +1:c5food: Food on Rivers...

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Telpochcalli being non-retroactive is really bad for a few reasons:
- Newly conquered cities won't get to benefit as much
- You'll have to build your units from your early cities if you want the max possible XP, which is needed for CS unit gift quests
- It's harder to implement

Proposal: just change the "Gains +1 Food, +1 Production, and +2 XP to units trained in this city whenever you enter a Golden Age" bonus to apply for previously-gained Golden Ages.

 

[Anarcomu]

I really liked the move of the Telpochcalli from being a barrack to being a library, precisely because it delay the Golden Age bonus. Aztec were far too strong and snowbolly when they could rush barracks and benefit from early food and production.
I'd rather have their power kept in check by delaying as much as possible that bonus. Or, remove production from it.

 

[hokath]

No it makes sense to me that it isn't retroactive.
In fact so much sense I didn't really understand why it was on the tooltip to begin with.

 

[Urzamax]

I'm for this mostly because it's much less 'fiddly' than the current system. Tracking which cities have what level of bonus is really frustrating.

 

[pineappledan]

It should be visible based on the yields on the telpochcalli

 

[Rekk]

Telpochcalli being non-retroactive is really bad for a few reasons:
- Newly conquered cities won't get to benefit as much
- You'll have to build your units from your early cities if you want the max possible XP, which is needed for CS unit gift quests
- It's harder to implement

Proposal: just change the "Gains +1 Food, +1 Production, and +2 XP to units trained in this city whenever you enter a Golden Age" bonus to apply for previously-gained Golden Ages.

Where's the link to the original proposal?

 

[KaoticKanine]

Not gonna lie, I'm not too sure about the Telpochalli having yields and Unit XP scale with each GA when the Huey Teocalli already has such an effect. Sure, it's limited to a single city, trades out the Production for Faith, and gives +3 of those yields / unit XP, but it still feels redundant.

Regardless if that GA scaling ability should stay or not, I also feel that perhaps the Huey Teocalli could have the +3XP be switched out with a different yield in favor of the Telpochalli giving extra XP to created units. Cause it's a Library

 

[Rekk]

Not gonna lie, I'm not too sure about the Telpochalli having yields and Unit XP scale with each GA when the Huey Teocalli already has such an effect. Sure, it's limited to a single city, trades out the Production for Faith, and gives +3 of those yields / unit XP, but it still feels redundant.

Regardless if that GA scaling ability should stay or not, I also feel that perhaps the Huey Teocalli could have the +3XP be switched out with a different yield in favor of the Telpochalli giving extra XP to created units. Cause it's a Library

Your wishes have already been answered. The Huey Teocalli doesn't have such an effect in any proposal.

 

[KaoticKanine]

Your wishes have already been answered. The Huey Teocalli doesn't have such an effect in any proposal.

*Checks 4UC Aztecs thread* Aw jeez! >.< I was initially looking at the 4UCs thread in the Mod Repository, which still says that the Huey's yields scale with GAs. Now I see that has been changed to accommodate the Telpochalli...

 

[axatin]

Sponsored.

 

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