A Simple and Regulated NES

[Kwansn]

"What happened?" a slightly bored Rey Juan Carlos II asked a breathless messenger.
"Sir, Russia and Germany have taken over our garrisons in the Netherlands and killed the local governor, duque Raul! It seems that an alliance has been formed between Russia, Germany, Rome and Persia. They have also attacked France and are now besieging Paris. It seems that an invasion on Britain was prevented by the Royal Navy but both France and Britain have lost several colonies. Rome now controls over two-thirds of Africa, sir."
"Estos malditos bastardos! Van a pagar por eso! Guards, bring me my aide and do it quickly! You're dismissed, messenger." A very angered Rey Juan Carlos II went to a window and stared outside. He remembered what a roman emperor had said centuries before, "The corpse of an enemy always smells sweet." and then he smiled.

To: Germany, Russia, Rome and Persia
Your unprovoked attack on the Netherlands and the death of a noble man will not go unpunished. Your attacks on our allies neither. War will be declared upon you if you fail to meet Spain's terms:
Give back all the land you conquered, lower the flags of your armies and march straight back home, stopping on every home you pass by and beg forgiveness for your atrocities. Do that and your man shall live, do it not and every man of you will die.

To: Roi Monrique de Bourbon IV and King Blackadder
This is a very dark hour for us, my friends. This is not a usual war we are fighting, but a struggle for survival. I will gladly ally with you and have already dispatched my armies to counter this aggression. Paris must not fall! We will not stop until the enemy capitals lie razed before us.

To: Al Gore
We offer you a pact of non-aggression. Spain is not willing to shed more blood over a few lands and hopes we both can forget differences we had in the past.

 

[uknemesis]

Stop squabbling all of you! I may have made mistakes before, but they will be rectified by the new combat rules.

All troops are now returned, as if it were Sunday, to sort out the mess I made of combat. AND FROM NOW ON, TROOPS WILL BE RETURNED AT A RATE OF 10% PER DAY, NOT EVERY SUNDAY.

And now I ask that all of you, now you have all of your troops back, send me a PM from each of you detailing where they all are(please Toasty, not just "5000 abroad", be specific!).

This will make the game easier to run.

And of course you can play, Trickey! What will your ruler name be? And I think many nations will be trying to get you to join them in an alliance!

Nemesis

PS:EVERYONE PM THEIR NEW TROOP DEPLOYMENTS TO ME!

 

[The Troquelet]

Persia is a neutral state. Darius I abdicates. Darius II is given instructions to sign any reasonable peace terms.

OOC - Thanks for a cool game, up to a point. I learned a lot, I think.

Darius I, now no longer the Shah

PS - I will soon be starting my own NES (if I can work out a few details). I think Sullla is as well.

Anyway, thanks for listening to my ranting and not getting too p'o'd, UK. Sorry. Shouldn't have ranted quite so much.

See yall around.

 

[sealman]

- Washington:

Vice President Lieberman runs into Gore's office, "Sir. The people in the streets are celebrating the recent attacks against French, Spain and English holdings."
"What, we are at peace now. There should be no hatred!"
"Sir, we told you before, the people belive that you sold them out in the North American Treaty but stand behind you in your Panama defiance. There is no love between our citizens and those who attacked us."
"Fine, let the people celebrate but move troops to protect the homes and property of whatever French, Spanish and English citizens are still in the country. W.e must at least provide saftey to those guests."
"Yes sir, it is being done as we speak."

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To: Spain (forgot your leader's name)
Re: Panama

Considering the state of the current world situation, a full non-aggression pact may be hard to agree to. The only allies that we can form alliances with are currently at odds with your allies whom you are considering since a mutual protection pact with. With that information in mind, America is willing to sign a non-agression pact with Spain with the condition that should either of our nations find themselves at opposite sides of conflict, we will continue to abide by our pact regardless of any other diplomatic agreements. We are not sure if this is possible given current world politics. This pact will we binding for 5 years, after which time it can be re-negotiated.

In short, we will not attack your South American colonies and you refrain from interferring in Panama.

What say you,President Gore, America

PS. Regarding a naval crossing through the isthmus of Panama. Our engineers have examined the terrain and land throughout Panama and have informed us that a Canal spanning the entire Isthmus is presently not possible. Perhaps at some later date, a canal may be built and Spain and America can work together.

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To: Egypt

Honored Leader:

As you may be noticing, the world is in termoil at present time. America and Egypt both find themselves adrift while the French and Russian led coalitions wage war.

America is willing to enter into defensive agreements with your nation if Egypt is willing. America is also willing to assit Egypt in modernizing her armies.

President Gore, America

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To: Japan, Turkey, Egypt
Re: Alliance

Honored Leaders;

The American people would like to invite you to Washington in the hopes that we can form some sort of alliance to defend ourselves against possible aggessors. The European nations are recently engaged in war.

Despite the American War a few years back, America is dedicated to peace and prosperity with all nations. Together we can make those goals a reality.

We hope to hear from you,

President Gore, America

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OCC:
Sulla and Troquelet: Had I known I would have held out in North America to keep French toops busy for you! Regarding the large losses for the Russian coalitions, with the exception of Germany, all your forces were at the ancient level compared to the Mediveal level so large losses were to be expected.
The Troquelet: hope you decide to reconsider and stay in the game.
Uknemesis: I do think that the outcomes should be not be too heavily influenced by you in regards to some battles. France and England were weak after the American Affair but that is their own fault. They took the risks and it made them weak. If other nations take advantage of it, tough luck. (of course I am saying this because no one took advantage of America, oh wait, Spain did. (no offense meant Kwansn but I do feel that your assault was unprovoked)) The 10% return numbers are good and I would say that maybe a year should be 2 days, that would give some people who do not have total access an easier time, I start a new job in a few weeks and do not know if I can sit and play during the day like I do now.
My new troop deployments will be coming shortly. I see now that you have been busy and have not responded to my PMs.

 

[uknemesis]

What PMs?! Sorry, I had to clear out my inbox! If you mean what I think you mean, the answer will be comings shortly.

And the new combat system will mean that I can't influence the battles, but defenders do get a bonus in their homeland.

I agree that maybe we should have two day years now, so there will be no updated map tonight, but there will be tomorrow. This also makes life easier for me!

Nemesis

 

[Sullla]

To: All Allied Powers
From: Tsar Alexei Mihailovich Romanov
Regarding: The Current War (World War I, we can probably call it)

The actions of the last few days have aroused considerable passions in all sides, which we feel is completely understandable. Nevertheless, it is time for all of our nations to come to a reasonable understanding on the current situation, and begin developing the framework for a post-war settlement. A few facts are in order first:

1) Our attack upon the Allies was done in response to arrogance on the part of France and Britain, who insulted both Russia and Persia at a time when they could little afford to do so, and to prevent these nations from controlling too much of the world. Assertions that our attack was completely unprovoked and that the nations of the Axis alliance are somehow "evil" must be dropped before any kind of settlement can be made.

2) All of our nations now have been restored to full fighting strength. Although the Axis may not have made as much progress in the war as we would have liked (*cough cough*), we are happy with what gains we did make and are not about to relinquish them. Our forces will not advance further, but do not expect to gain back the ground we have taken without suffering VERY large casulties on the order of what we took to gain them (it must work both ways, remember).

3) The Allied nations must come to accept that the current borders are likely to remain as they are, and they must learn to do with that. Rey Juan Carlos II had these words to say earlier:

Give back all the land you conquered, lower the flags of your armies and march straight back home, stopping on every home you pass by and beg forgiveness for your atrocities. Do that and your man shall live, do it not and every man of you will die.

We mean no disrespect to the Spanish king, but the nations of the Axis are not about to hand over the land they spilled much blood to obtain and meekly go home. Surely Spain realizes that there was no realistic way to hold the Low Countires with a mere 2 divisions when Germany had 70 right on its border? We will discuss various forms of compensation for Spain in the peace negotiations.

4) It was never our intention to destroy France. The entire offensive in Europe was done to draw attention away from the main goal, the seizure of colonial lands abroad. This seems to have been misconstrued, however, somewhere in the past. The French Roi needs to stop feeling as though this alliance was made to destroy his country (apparently uknemesis thinks that was the goal also...)

5) Russia suggests that you end this ridiculous rhetoric about "fighting to the last man" to "avenge the great injustice" done to your countries. The Allies overextended themselves and we have taken advantage of it. Before peace talks begin, we expect to be treated as diplomatic equals, and without that condition no peace will be possible.

OOC: We need a new player for Persia, and soon. I hope we can find one soon, because the current situation is quite dicey for everyone.

The Axis nations also expect fair treatment in the future. Comments like this:

Right, now that just p*sses me right off. You gang up on a weakened country, especially one who's leader wasn't here very often, and attack it. Yes it is injured in an unfair war, but this one is even more unfair, and so the casualties reflected the way I felt about this war.

I can't have you destroying a country in the medieval age! What do you expect me to do, let France fall and ruin the game for another player, one who is playing it well in the diplomatic field by being a b*stard, which some rulers are, and making it more enjoyable for all?

Now, tonight, when I post a message saying so, all troops and ships will be restored. No offence Germany, Rome, Persia and Russia, but I hope that France and Britain kick your ass back to the stone age even in the new combat system to make you pay for this sneak attack.

are not encouraging to myself, Bill in PDX, and wilboman. Should we even continue this game if the moderator has explicitly stated he hopes we get our asses kicked? We expect fair treatment if the game is to continue.

 

[Dexter]

[OOC]I'm prepared to totally agree with Sulla in his last OOC statements. But i do feel that your large losses were connected to the fact that we suffered large losses in America which just as unfair. Hopefully though uknemesis can sort this out with the resetting of armies and this game can continue and become good fun!
Can I also give an idea. During the ages of knights wars were fought maybe a few thousand men between nations. Also the idea that all the battles took place on one day is wrong, the battles would have been spread over weeks and months. I think that in terms of the age of technology we're in that the army sizes are completely unrealistic. Armies in the millions didn't appear until the Napoleonic Ages which is our next advancement.
Well hgood-luck to all[/OOC]


The Death Of Blackadder:
Today at noon His Royal Higness King Blackadder died of old age at 53. He has now been succeeded by his son King James II who with his wife, Princess Marie of France, will rule the country and its colonies.
Long live the King!


To: Tsar Alexei Mihailovich Romanov
From: King James II
Subj: WAR!!
You have declared war and the combined peoples of Spain, France and Great Britain shall never succumb to your armies! My advice is that you prepare yourself for the counter attack!! Be warned!

To: Al Gore
From: King James II
Subj: Peace Offering
As an act of friendship and peace, Britain shall hand over to you our Canadian colonies in the hope that our peoples shall be able to work together!
Yours,
King James II

Actions:
- Withdraw from Canada and hand the lands to America.
- Remember to withdraw from Australia!

 

[wilboman]

OOC:
I don't like being called a liar, cheat, evil or anything else. I was, as Toasty, playing a role. Haakon Magnusson came to power through war, and, as the Germanic warrior he was, he saw his chance to increase power through war, like Wilhelm II did during WWI.
Like Wilhelm II did, he also messed up. Although he basically got what he wanted (Flemish-speaking nations+Alsace-Lorraine), he bit off more than he could chew, and he may have to pay. Tough luck.
I never wanted to crush France (hell, if I crushed France, I'd have eliminated Germany's European arch-enemy in one stroke, and that would make for a very boring game!).
We'll see how this develops.

But as for not being trusted, how's about this: I was around for close to a week before England even dreamt of talking to me, France never did, Spain ignored me, and my new friends turned out to be Russia and Rome. When Russia and Rome invited me to join in a conquest that may have helped me make gains that I obviously missed out on by starting colonization too late, I'll admit I jumped the gun. Britain posted their first diplomatic letter to me right after I had sealed the pact, in fact.

That's how diplomacy works. Make friends, help friends, make mistakes, get scre*ed. I realise this. As far as I'm concerned, everyone is overreacting, and, in fact, we've, through our treacherous ways, moved the game quite a few steps forward, organization-wise, and uncovered a couple of holes that machiavellian players (the Axis) may use.

For the moment, I hope that we can all just be on cordial terms otherwise in the forum, even though our role figures are bitter enemies.
I've got no love for this dirt-slinging that's going on.
It's just a blooming mindgame, for crying out loud!!!!!!
Get real!

 

[Bill_in_PDX]

Completely out of character.

Well, I have given this NES thing two tries now, and both are a waste of time in the end.

If the moderator of the game doesn't like a perfectly feasable strategy against a country who was aggressive in his own right from DAY ONE of this game, then I need to know what the h**l the secret rules are.

Russia, Germany, Persia, and I all executed on a fantastic plan designed to counter the very aggressive allies before they could dominate the world. It was valid and effective.

I attempted to make contact with France and Britain early on when they asked for my help in their north american crusade. My simple question to them was...what's in it for Rome. Their response was silence. They arrogantly assumed I would kill off my army just so they could dominate an America who had done nothing other than colonize. Only Spain responded thanking me for the interest, and they were coerced into ceding a territory to Toasty already.

France raped the defensive forces of their homeland by their own decisions and aggression.

How they, and you UK, can take any type of moral high ground here is a complete mystery, and frankly silly. To then take those biases and use them to openly penalize countries that merely followed the same path as the affore mentioned French is just wrong.

I am appalled by the comments of some of the people playing, including the moderator. In UK's case it is unfortunate as he has been a very great contributor to the stories thread. I fully expected some form of initial shock and anger, but after a full day to still be reading this stuff I find to be hypocracy in it's highest form.

If someone can come up with a better way to do this, I would be interested, but otherwise I can't see why anyone would want to waste their time.

I cede my country to Russia. He already has additional troops stationed near rome.

Best wishes to all of you, it just seems to me that this model of gaming is a complete failure.

Bill

 

[Bill_in_PDX]

Originally posted by sealman
OCC:
Sulla and Troquelet: Had I known I would have held out in North America to keep French toops busy for you! Regarding the large losses for the Russian coalitions, with the exception of Germany, all your forces were at the ancient level compared to the Mediveal level so large losses were to be expected.

Actually not. The Roman army is also fully Medival. Though none of that seems to matter. What matters is, does uknemisis agree with your attack.

Cheers.

Bill

 

[Toasty]

Bill,

I responded to your messages, and I replied kindly saying that while it would be appriciated by me I couldn't think of anything to give you in return.
I am sorry to both you and Wilboman for not "being in contact" enough. I didn't because while I did want enemies (not necessarily you, Bill) I didn't want to be raped because of my crippling unavaliability and because of the war in Quebec. What seems to me is that you enacted one huge alliance to crush your opposition fairly early in the game (and 1,300,000 men is no diversion) while they were disproportionately weak.
Sulla, I don't understand how you can say that when a huge percentage of your forces are thrown directly at me, and a few spare divisions mop up the remaining colonies you can claim that your alliance's mission or intent was not to destroy me. All of my colonies except for Quebec were attacked and more than a million men engaged me on my front door.
I would rather that, instead of The Troquelet and Bill_in_PDX quitting they would continue. They still have a good chance of defeating us because their combined numbers do outweigh our alliance.
I don't want to come this far in an NES to have a few people drop out and have to start over again. It is not a failure until we stop hammering out the bugs. Uknemesis has randomized the combat system and stopped doing battles for the "sake of balance." Can we just please finish this one?

 

[Sullla]

Unfortunately, more OOC:

I admit that sending 131 divisions into France does not look like a diversion. But we sent that many because we fully expected very large losses, and wanted to ensure that we would gain the territory we stated we wanted. Unfortunately, we didn't even get where we wanted in France. I can't find the actual text of our invasion of France, but it was very close to this:

47 German divisions and 20 Russian ones are to occupy northeastern France and the Low Countries, and then dig in and fortify against a counterattack.

25 Roman divisions and 40 Russian ones are to invade southern France and occupy it all the way up to the Pyreenes. They are then to fortify against a French counter-attack or a Spanish attack over the mountains.

We designed our plan this way so that we could 1) avoid horrendous losses that come from trying to utterly destroy a player-controlled nation, 2) tie down attention in Europe so that we could take over colonies overseas without fear of counter-attack there, and 3) avoid leading others to think that one country was being singled out for destruction.

It seems we failed to achieve any of these goals.

However, everyone needs to get over this thing and continue on with the game. In that respect, my "enemies" of Toasty and Dexter seem to be dealing with this better than The Troquelet and Bill_in_PDX. I hope that my allies will reconsider their decision to leave the game, as it's leaving me in a rather unfortunate postition at the moment.

Obviously I'm not taking over control of Rome. As much as I'd like to, that wouldn't be fair. Perhaps we will be lucky and some new players will come in to control Persia and Rome. But it won't be fun for me having to create a new relationship with different players. And I think most new players would be more interested in controlling an untouched civ like India or China rather than one with loads of "baggage". But time will tell.

 

[Bill_in_PDX]

Sulla,

Given that our moderator has indicated that he will be a bit biased:

"I hope that France and Britain kick your ass back to the stone age "

I really don't see any point in it. It was hardly my intention to leave you hanging, but given the quote above, what chance do we have? I enjoy participating in this stuff, but I am VERY offended by the comments posted here. It is pure hypocrasy.

I was perfectly willing to let the allies vent a little here, but for gawd sakes, the moderator is mad, and I can't figure out what the hell he has to be mad about.

Sneak attack??? What the hell was the activity in North America???

UK, why don't you just tell us how you want the game to finish, and save us all a lot of time...gosh knows you write quite well. It seems your anger is over the fact that someone might go after a major power early in the game. Again I say, what was going on in North America???

I received no PM's from England or France, only Spain. Are you sure you mailed me?

Bill

 

[The Troquelet]

Players:

I always hate to admit when I'm wrong, but my OOC comments do sound pretty arrogant now. And my threats to leave weren't really polite to everyone else who has worked so hard at this game..

I suggest a pause in the game until UK can unveil his new combat model. Then, if I think it doesn't lean too much either way, I'll certainly rejoin. This game has been fun, and above all it HAS shown that play is much more realistic with a moderator than with player-run games. It just needs a really revamped combat model so there's actually a point to all the negotiation and diplomacy.

I hope Bill will also consider this proposal.

(Also, money, trade, and buying armies would be nice. For example: Russia, Italy, and I engaged in a lot of "fake" trading. I said I'd send my furs here, they'd send their gems there, we'd all get money. But we don't have a limit on luxuries, money has no use: the only real purpose is to emphasize the friendship between our nations. There's no threat of revolt for instance if we don't gather a few luxuries.

Also, the army itself is unrealistic. Suppose we pushed Britain into the Hebrides Islands on Saturday, and that's their only territory. Suddenly, on Sunday they receive huge numbers of troops? I don't think so. I think players should receive money each turn for the land they occupy, and then they can spend that money on conscription or on modernizing their forces, or for negotiation.)

I don't expect to see such drastic and time-taking changes here, but I'm thinking of my own NES (soon, soon...)

Above all, I think the game needs a couple new players in new nations. Starting the game with a mere 5 players lended itself to an early antagonizing war, (which of course happened). And then the plots and dislike which rose out of that war led to more war. With players in Egypt, India, and China, play will be much more balanced and negotiation will become enough of a must that even the wargame players will start to delve into the diplomatic parts.

 

[uknemesis]

Originally posted by Bill_in_PDX
Sulla,

Given that our moderator has indicated that he will be a bit biased:

"I hope that France and Britain kick your ass back to the stone age "

Grrrr. I said that because I think attacking weakened countries in huge numbers is out of order, just like I thought the ganging up on America was.

And how can I be biased with the new combat system? Oh, and here it is:

Ancient Age units= Attack=1 Defence=2
Medieval units= Attack=2 Defence=3
Napoleonic units= Attack=3 Defence=4
Victorian units= Attack=4 Defence-5
Imperial units=Attack=5 Defence=6
Atomic units= Attack=6 Defence=7
Modern units= Attack=7 Defence=8

This system is slightly biased towards the defender to still encourage diplomacy over conflict. The way to work out the modifier of the dice roll is:
Attack value of attacking unit - Defence value of the defending unit = Modifier(negative or positive).

Then two dice are rolled for each of the two nations. The modifier is added to the attacker's roll(which may actually take it away if the number is negative). Whoever has the highest score wins the fight.

This is done division against division. In the event of uneven forces, ie; 1 division defending against five, if the defender wins, another division steps in to take the attackers place. This continues until one sides forces are all dead, or one side retreats as per their orders(by PM or in the post where they attack). When both sides have lost a quarter of their commited troops, there will be a two dice roll to see if the battle bogs down(stalemates). On a roll of 3 or under, it has. Then when both sides have lost half their troops, there is another roll. 5 or below bogs the battle down. When both sides have lost three quarters of their total troops, there is a two dice roll which stalemates on 7 or below. Ships go by the same principles, except their battles can't bog down.

Bonuses:

Defending capital city= +1 to Defender's Defence score.

Britain= +1 to Defence and Attack at sea.
France= +1 to Defence or Attack if attacking with over 10 divisions.
Germany= extra +1 when defending capital, +1 Defence for aircraft.
Spain= +1 Attack and Defence defending/attacking colonies.
Rome= +1 Defence when in occupied land(until war is over).
Russia= +1 Defence when defending in cold areas(ie; Russia in winter).
America= +1 Attack for aircraft, +1 Attack on other continents
Sweden= +1 Attack and Defence for ships in the Baltic, and can't be blockaded in there.
Turkey= +1 Attack for all troops, but a -1 Defence.
Egypt= +1 attack for all troops in Africa.
India= +1 Defence when fighting a more advanced opponent.
Persia= +1 Attack and Defence against those in the same age.
China= +1 Defence to all troops, but a -1 Attack.
Japan= +1 Attack for carrier-borne aircraft, +1 Defence when fighting in Japan.

Any complaints or pleas to change something, tell me.

Trade, which will be central to having the resources to build new units(I tell you what resources you get), money(you have to buy your armies and navies, and pay upkeep), advances(there will be a tech tree), and this combat system(but with at least 5 units per age, each with different Attack and Defence values) will all feature in the new UKNES that I'm making. If enough people say here that they will play, I will hopefully have it posted by tonight, and would probably think about switching over to it(it begins with the world evenly divided between the nations, and everyone at peace).

Nemesis

 

[sealman]

Originally posted by Bill_in_PDX


Actually not. The Roman army is also fully Medival. Though none of that seems to matter. What matters is, does uknemisis agree with your attack.

Cheers.

Bill

Forgot all about Rome. My fault... Still hope you stay around and help work out the bugs but understand if you don't.

You will be missed. I for one think your plan was well thought out and concieved. My intelligence reports missed everything.

 

[sealman]

I am assuming that we are on standstill at the moment while the latest bugs are fixed, and request a day or two to get back going once the changes are all agreed upon. I for one like the numbers put up by UK in a recent post and willing to play with them.

We just need to work out the money thing.

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To: King James II
Re: Canada

The American people thank you for the English people's gift of your North American colonies. This will greatly help to heal the rift between our two nations.

The American People

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During our little time out: there is an election upcoming in America. President Gore will be seeking his 4th term. Running against him is Hiawatha of the Iroquois party who is a clear favorite this time around. Also throwing his hat in the ring is current Cuba Govenor F.L. Castro. Although Castro is not expected to garnish many votes, he is setting himself up to run later on. Who will win? I do not know yet.

 

[Dexter]

I'm prepared to work with the new numbers posted by uknemesis. And I hope that everyone understands this is a game and that we can all be friends outside of it!!
Thanks

 

[uknemesis]

There will be no money in this game, sealman.

The money and trade etc will be in the next UKNES, a totally new game which I am ironing out the final bugs for. You could say this one has been a learning experience for me.

What I hope is that we will all be able to move to the new NES when I finish it, so that I don't have to run two NESs at once.

And also, due to the system that will be in place in that game, it will be impossible for me to cheat, so I may join the game as a country.

The UKNES's highlights at the moment:
Tech Tree to advance through, at a speed you set by how much money you spend on science. Peaceful nations will advance quicker as they have more money to spend, but military nations may be able to hurt them before they can!

Money will be paid each day to the nations, the same amount for everyone at the beginning. Each nation will have major factories or something like that which if they fall to the enemy will increase the enemy's wealth and decrease your own.

All countries begin equally - colonies already started.

New combat system, based on the one above, will feature many units for every age, so you can decide if your army will be defensive or attacking, and the same for your navy.

Fortifications will now play an actual role in the game.

Trading - each nation begins with two resources, but seven are needed to be able to build every unit. So you must trade to be able to build units, or you will be stuck with spearmen! Resources will also be able to be captured!

Regulated deployments(each nation must report at the end of every two days in a PM to me where their troops are).

New Game Time - 2 days = 1 year

More units - tanks, artillery, submarines, and many more feature!

Regulated trading - you have only a limited amount of each resource, one lot for yourself, and then an amount that you can trade to others. The amount you can trade increases with certain advances. A trade embargo can result in a nation being unable to build any more of a unit.

PLAY IT SOON!

Nemesis

 

[uknemesis]

Due to too many similarities to the new Med. NES, I am cancelling UKNES in the form it was going to be.

Now I shall be creating a much simpler NES, as to be honest this one is dragging down and is becoming increasingly difficult to mod. I will post the changed UKNES soon, and hope we all agree to move onto it, as I would rather see this one die because it is too hard to keep track of for me, and that frustrates the players.

So please pay a visit to the new NES when it is up, and vote here whether we shall all move or not!

Nemesis