AA02: Catherine's Aggressive Adventures
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·Imhotep·
Legendary Builder
I took over the game immediately after the peace with Monty. There was some discussion who would be our next target, but pholk was doubtful about the economy and Joao's power. The first thing I did was adjusting EP spending so we can see Joao's research too.
I then checked the power graph. Hm, Joao IS more powerful than us. But hey, fortune favors the bold !
Take that and eat your hat, pumpkin !
Of course my DoW wasn't based on the hope of fortune. It was founded on an opportunity too good to squander. Remember that Joao captured Monty's trash city up north ? Well, he sent almost all of his northern army in there for garrisoning. And we have two stacks nearby with CR promotions. LOTS of CR promotions ! And quite conviniently Joao's new aquisition still lacks defenses as it is in revolt. So arrange the stacks and...chaaaaarge ! Please note also ruff's brand new Great General bar as a new feature of BUG 2.21, revision 590.
After 2 turns of slaugther (we only lose some siege and 2 or 3 other units) this is left of Joao's proud northern stack:
The result of our surge can be seen already:
We also get a GG I merge into Moscow.
The southern front is held by our fresh Knights (and the whip
), Joao can send only pillagers anyway. But up north thunder is brewing...
We get a Great Artist. I leave him for now.
An the happy capturing goes on...this city is kept as it has formidable surroundings.
And with the last stroke, Monty is officially dead.
I tried to capture one of Joao's cities with a smaller force, but resistance was too strong still. As our economy needs reshaping I take the peace deal:
We're now at -15 @ 30% research with ~330 in the bank, Liberalism is 21 away. I'm confident we'll get it as nobody is researching along that path right now.
Imhotep
I then checked the power graph. Hm, Joao IS more powerful than us. But hey, fortune favors the bold !
Take that and eat your hat, pumpkin !
Of course my DoW wasn't based on the hope of fortune. It was founded on an opportunity too good to squander. Remember that Joao captured Monty's trash city up north ? Well, he sent almost all of his northern army in there for garrisoning. And we have two stacks nearby with CR promotions. LOTS of CR promotions ! And quite conviniently Joao's new aquisition still lacks defenses as it is in revolt. So arrange the stacks and...chaaaaarge ! Please note also ruff's brand new Great General bar as a new feature of BUG 2.21, revision 590.
After 2 turns of slaugther (we only lose some siege and 2 or 3 other units) this is left of Joao's proud northern stack:
The result of our surge can be seen already:
We also get a GG I merge into Moscow.
The southern front is held by our fresh Knights (and the whip
), Joao can send only pillagers anyway. But up north thunder is brewing...
We get a Great Artist. I leave him for now.
An the happy capturing goes on...this city is kept as it has formidable surroundings.
And with the last stroke, Monty is officially dead.
I tried to capture one of Joao's cities with a smaller force, but resistance was too strong still. As our economy needs reshaping I take the peace deal:
We're now at -15 @ 30% research with ~330 in the bank, Liberalism is 21 away. I'm confident we'll get it as nobody is researching along that path right now.
Imhotep
·Imhotep·
Legendary Builder
As the Log takes a lot of space (36177 characters), it's added here, shortened...
Spoiler The Log :
negyvenketto
Scientist
It's better than I expected. I feel the peace won't last much more than 10 turns 
pholkhero
Deviant Mind
well, as Im already filled me in on the details during our MP session on saturday, i'm ready to roll on this.
I think i'll set up a nice garrison up north, and move the bulk of our army down south. What shall we do w/the GA? Hold him for another GAge or move him into any newly-conquered Portugese cities down south??
I've got it and will probably start playing now to get it out of the way. I'll also need to DL the latest BUG mod (this one you CAN open the game log with so anyone who doesn't have it, try to open it up).
I think i'll set up a nice garrison up north, and move the bulk of our army down south. What shall we do w/the GA? Hold him for another GAge or move him into any newly-conquered Portugese cities down south??
I've got it and will probably start playing now to get it out of the way. I'll also need to DL the latest BUG mod (this one you CAN open the game log with so anyone who doesn't have it, try to open it up).
pholkhero
Deviant Mind
also, I've forgotten to welcome MystyFly ~ welcome 
You're on deck to play after me
You're on deck to play after me
Aaaalrightt, finally playing a SG with ph
I'll just have to read thru SOME posts so I'm up to date I guess
Do you have a version number of the BUG mod you're using? I'm not sure I'm using the latest version now... Don't want to screw up another turn log...
I'll just have to read thru SOME posts so I'm up to date I guess
Do you have a version number of the BUG mod you're using? I'm not sure I'm using the latest version now... Don't want to screw up another turn log...
·Imhotep·
Legendary Builder
@mystyfly:
Latest Version is BUG 2.22, revision 600.
Latest Version is BUG 2.22, revision 600.
so finally read a *bit* about the glorious russian empire.
My thoughts: we should save the GA for a golden age. It would be nice if we get the other GP in time to speed up research on liberalism so we're guaranteed to get it. We should take nat for drafting and taj from lib to start our third GA. That's 24 more turns of GAge. MoM seriously rocks!
We should continue building units and make sure we have some spies to cause revolts. The most of those experienced untis up north should be moved towards the russian-portugese border to be ready to dow him sometime soon. Joao's still powerful and imo threat #1 and a war vs him is inevitable I think.
BTW nice play so far. Emperor anyone?
My thoughts: we should save the GA for a golden age. It would be nice if we get the other GP in time to speed up research on liberalism so we're guaranteed to get it. We should take nat for drafting and taj from lib to start our third GA. That's 24 more turns of GAge. MoM seriously rocks!
We should continue building units and make sure we have some spies to cause revolts. The most of those experienced untis up north should be moved towards the russian-portugese border to be ready to dow him sometime soon. Joao's still powerful and imo threat #1 and a war vs him is inevitable I think.
BTW nice play so far. Emperor anyone?
negyvenketto
Scientist
Basically
but if we could hold up Liberalism (1 turn from finish) while we research Gunpowder, Rifling would be nice from Lib. And yes, you are UP, Pholky
pholkhero
Deviant Mind
yes, yes ~ played 2 days just no time to report. am doing it shortly 
[just joined the team, already griping at me :rant: ]
[just joined the team, already griping at me :rant: ]
pholkhero
Deviant Mind
Okay, I started off noting that we are actually losing 15 gpt at 20%!! Can't afford much more, i think (he says now). I went, through, too and MMed our cities. I have to ask why Novograd (a prod town) is building a grocer? only a bit in, so i stop that. Anther production city was on a market, too.; I think I let that one finish as it was about halfway done.
We really need to grow our cities here. I decided to go back in and maximize food for my turnset.
Oh, and remember I said we couldnt afford anymore cities?
It was too good to pass up, plus it evens out our border with England.
Other than selecting builds, I pushed enter most of the turns and utilized our army of workers. The English and Carthaginians both wanted us to join their war against each other, but I declined as they are both Hindu. I imagine, though, wed want Carthage as our friend more if were going to expand more.
I also traded some techs for ones we need:
I ended our turns at the most natural of stopping points:
It is now 1570 ad. We have an army of workers staring in the south making sure we're all good to go w/improvements around our city, i.e., have totally specialized them. They have finished up yaro, yeka and moscow, but we still need more cottages at rostov.
Then they can go further north. Also, please note I founded Phort Pholk on the Portugese border. It can easily run to either city down there should Joao get frisky.
At our prod towns, please look to converting cottages to farms and shops on a 1:1 basis to further increase our hammer output (food allowing of course).
I would merge any GMs at yaro for more specialists, and its ready for the Globe there, too. I would cottage almost every tile at paris and orleans. they can share hills for production when they need it. Cottage those grass forests at Tours, as well.
There's a 2nd worker army in the NW corner, too, which can work on former Aztec lands pressing east (Ive labeled what I think are appropriate specializations for them; feel free to disagree).
Finally, we could very well delcare, but i don't think our finances can take anymore. maybe to crush his army a bit, but i don't know. I think Im against it for now.
PS. Lets get the Taj started ASAP. Well get a couple more GPs real soon with it, and could easily have 30 turns of GAge (since were on epic, MoM GAs are 15 turns
!!)
We really need to grow our cities here. I decided to go back in and maximize food for my turnset.
Oh, and remember I said we couldnt afford anymore cities?
It was too good to pass up, plus it evens out our border with England.
Other than selecting builds, I pushed enter most of the turns and utilized our army of workers. The English and Carthaginians both wanted us to join their war against each other, but I declined as they are both Hindu. I imagine, though, wed want Carthage as our friend more if were going to expand more.
I also traded some techs for ones we need:
I ended our turns at the most natural of stopping points:
It is now 1570 ad. We have an army of workers staring in the south making sure we're all good to go w/improvements around our city, i.e., have totally specialized them. They have finished up yaro, yeka and moscow, but we still need more cottages at rostov.
Then they can go further north. Also, please note I founded Phort Pholk on the Portugese border. It can easily run to either city down there should Joao get frisky.
At our prod towns, please look to converting cottages to farms and shops on a 1:1 basis to further increase our hammer output (food allowing of course).
I would merge any GMs at yaro for more specialists, and its ready for the Globe there, too. I would cottage almost every tile at paris and orleans. they can share hills for production when they need it. Cottage those grass forests at Tours, as well.
There's a 2nd worker army in the NW corner, too, which can work on former Aztec lands pressing east (Ive labeled what I think are appropriate specializations for them; feel free to disagree).
Finally, we could very well delcare, but i don't think our finances can take anymore. maybe to crush his army a bit, but i don't know. I think Im against it for now.
PS. Lets get the Taj started ASAP. Well get a couple more GPs real soon with it, and could easily have 30 turns of GAge (since were on epic, MoM GAs are 15 turns
!!)
pholkhero
Deviant Mind
Roster:
beserks01
Imhotep
pholkhero >> just played
mystyfly >> UP NOW
negyvenketto >> on deck
Kikinit >> hiatus
robo kai >> hiatus
I'm sure you know the rules: play until a "natural stopping point."
beserks01
Imhotep
pholkhero >> just played
mystyfly >> UP NOW
negyvenketto >> on deck
Kikinit >> hiatus
robo kai >> hiatus
I'm sure you know the rules: play until a "natural stopping point."
Got it.
Seems that there is a time-consuming set coming up, lots of stuff to do...
IIRC we have the GW. We could try to destroy another big part of Joaos army in a defensive war. However we should do that either before or after the GA from the Taj - having WW in a GA sucks.
Techwise probabely banking > economics (GM for a GA) > PP > RP > rifling. Idea is to get some stuff to power our economy. We can use a huge shorttime economic boost A.K.A. GA to reach rifling in a respectable amount of time.
Seems that there is a time-consuming set coming up, lots of stuff to do...
IIRC we have the GW. We could try to destroy another big part of Joaos army in a defensive war. However we should do that either before or after the GA from the Taj - having WW in a GA sucks.
Techwise probabely banking > economics (GM for a GA) > PP > RP > rifling. Idea is to get some stuff to power our economy. We can use a huge shorttime economic boost A.K.A. GA to reach rifling in a respectable amount of time.
ruff_hi
Live 4ever! Or die trying
Hi All - I'll be dropping in and opening some saves in this SG to test if we have fixed the in-game log crash bug in BUG. Please let me know if any of the players used a v2.20 or earlier version of BUG.
ruff_hi
Live 4ever! Or die trying
Any feedback on the changes to the logger - in particular, the 'After End Turn:' and 'Other Player Actions:' parts. Some of the actions aren't reported correctly (ie the whip) but that is they way we are testing for whip as Civ4's doesn't have a whip event.·Imhotep·;6659551 said:
ruff_hi
Live 4ever! Or die trying
Results of the in-game BUG crash testing ...
AA02 BC-3250.CivBeyondSwordSave - passed in-game log test
AA02 BC-2350.CivBeyondSwordSave - failed in-game log test (Robo Kai was using BUG v2.2 or prior)
AA02 AD-1570.CivBeyondSwordSave - failed
Oh well - will have to wait for another SG to start.
AA02 BC-3250.CivBeyondSwordSave - passed in-game log test
AA02 BC-2350.CivBeyondSwordSave - failed in-game log test (Robo Kai was using BUG v2.2 or prior)
AA02 AD-1570.CivBeyondSwordSave - failed
Oh well - will have to wait for another SG to start.
pholkhero
Deviant Mind
i like the additions to the mod ~ very easy to pull out that stuff when writing reports.
also, iirc, mine was the only one using 2.22 so, that should be the only one that works. and of course, if i get any more bright ideas, i'll let you know. and actually . . . an Advanced Naming System with just units and not per era.
~ oh, and mysty ~ good ideas!!
also, iirc, mine was the only one using 2.22 so, that should be the only one that works. and of course, if i get any more bright ideas, i'll let you know. and actually . . . an Advanced Naming System with just units and not per era.
~ oh, and mysty ~ good ideas!!
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