Adding new civs and/or LHs

[zeed]

Warning: I am a noob.

I have spent hours looking through different threads but was unable to find an answer to this question: Is there any way I can take user-made civs and/or leaderheads (apart from the ones StrategyOnly recently posted on the main C2C thread) and add them to play with the C2C mod? I see how to add civs to the basic BTS game, but I am very confused as to how I might be able to add them to the C2C mod. I tried experimenting w/ putting them in the C2C/Assets/Modules/Custom_Civilizations folder with no success. Is this even possible? I appreciate anyone taking the time to answer this question. I also appreciate everyone who took the time to develop this mod and the mods upon which it is based.

Please excuse my noobdom. I did spend hours trying to find an answer to this on my own.

 

[Koshling]

Warning: I am a noob.

I have spent hours looking through different threads but was unable to find an answer to this question: Is there any way I can take user-made civs and/or leaderheads (apart from the ones StrategyOnly recently posted on the main C2C thread) and add them to play with the C2C mod? I see how to add civs to the basic BTS game, but I am very confused as to how I might be able to add them to the C2C mod. I tried experimenting w/ putting them in the C2C/Assets/Modules/Custom_Civilizations folder with no success. Is this even possible? I appreciate anyone taking the time to answer this question. I also appreciate everyone who took the time to develop this mod and the mods upon which it is based.

Please excuse my noobdom. I did spend hours trying to find an answer to this on my own.

New folders under 'modular' are not loaded automatically. You need to add an entry to the MLF_CIV4ModularLoadingControls.xml file (in the case of leaderheads the one inside 'modules/Custom Leaderheads' I think). SO can probably confirm.

 

[Hydromancerx]

New civs would be hard since you have to give them the special culture buildings as their unique building. Plus why would you need to since all civs have been stripped of their unique units and buildings now? There is no need for new civs since all civs are the same at the start now.

 

[JosEPh_II]

New LHs or rather New faces would be nice. Also what happened to all the New Female LHs?

JosEPh

 

[zeed]

New civs would be hard since you have to give them the special culture buildings as their unique building. Plus why would you need to since all civs have been stripped of their unique units and buildings now? There is no need for new civs since all civs are the same at the start now.

I was hoping that adding civs would be as simple as 'move file A and folders B and C to folder X' or something along those lines but I understand now that it is not that simple. As to WHY I would want to add them: It would give me more personal satisfaction to wage war against and conquer a civ named Italy w/ a leader like Mussolini or a civ named Canada while seeing that maple leaf flag as opposed to battling the Khmer, Malinese, or Portuguese empires (because I don't really know anything about them). It will be more satisfying (for me at least) to take down Germany under Hitler (ty for adding him) than Bismarck or Frederick. Anyways its really not a big deal. Just wanted to answer your question.

 

[EldrinFal]

I suspect it can be done by switching out files and editing XMLs. If the Civ you want is already made for another mod, then putting those in place of some of the Civs in C2C may accomplish what you want.

Adding completely new Civs is a whole other issue. SO may be able to advise on this.

I wouldn't mind seeing a few fictional or pseudo-real Civs in my games. Even if they don't have special units or what not, it just adds a little more fun to the game on a conceptual level. Maybe I'm silly, but I think it would be funny for a Zombie nation to arise as an event from building a World Wonder. And I mean Zombies created from "biological accidents" etc. versus gothic-esque zombies.

On that same vein, it would be funny for a nation of Apes to arise.

 

[Orangepitcher03]

On that same vein, it would be funny for a nation of Apes to arise.

If this is not done in the near future I am abandoning this mod!

 

[EldrinFal]

If this is not done in the near future I am abandoning this mod!

If it's NOT done?

 

[strategyonly]

Warning: I am a noob.

I have spent hours looking through different threads but was unable to find an answer to this question: Is there any way I can take user-made civs and/or leaderheads (apart from the ones StrategyOnly recently posted on the main C2C thread) and add them to play with the C2C mod? I see how to add civs to the basic BTS game, but I am very confused as to how I might be able to add them to the C2C mod. I tried experimenting w/ putting them in the C2C/Assets/Modules/Custom_Civilizations folder with no success. Is this even possible? I appreciate anyone taking the time to answer this question. I also appreciate everyone who took the time to develop this mod and the mods upon which it is based.

Please excuse my noobdom. I did spend hours trying to find an answer to this on my own.

Right now as it stands with ALL the new updates that will be coming, it will be impossible to add new civs, UNLESS you are really really good at XMLing. Adding one good civ (not those of only one UU/UB, i believe ALL those civs made by people, no offense to them, but they completely SUCK) can take sometimes up to 4-6 hours of work.

I consider a civ to be added to a game NOT less than 10 units included. Otherwise your using the same ole same ole units as regular Civ. And thats not really a civ then its just a LH with e new name for a Civ, thats it. If you just want names of civ, heck you can have hundreds of them, but to actually have different LOOKING civs is a different story (IMHO).

I will eventually get around to adding ALOT of civs as the mod progresses, but even the ones i have ow except for the Apache (it is updated now) are not updated for the new information that has been added to this GREAT mod.

All leaderhead information has to be changed in LeaderheadInfo, alot of info in CivilizationInfo has to be changed, all PRE-MADE maps have to be definitely remade. UnitArtStyles would have to be redone, the list goes on.

So i guess in short, no would be your answer for now, but requesting a civ, once in awhile won't hurt. Hows that sound? My main motto is "Just Have Fun."

 

[Orangepitcher03]

If it's NOT done?

Yes, it would be funny IMHO. Was not a serious threat, I love this mod too much.

 

[EldrinFal]

Yes, it would be funny IMHO. Was not a serious threat, I love this mod too much.

hah Ok! Just wanted to make sure we were on the same page!

 

[Desolator]

This one contains more LH than the pack in the main C2C thread.
This SHOULD work with current version but I did not test it in every aspect.
All credit goes to the people who created them.

Download:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=K0YUPO8C

Install:
1. Extract to Beyond the Sword\Mods\Caveman2Cosmos\Assets\Modules\
(Allow the overwriting of the CIV4ModularLoadingControlsSchema.xml and the MLF_CIV4ModularLoadingControls.xml.)
2. Run (execute) the woc_installer.jar file in Beyond the Sword\Mods\Caveman2Cosmos\Assets\Modules\
(This merges the custom audio for some of the LHs)
3. (optional) Switch on/off any LH in the MLF_CIV4ModularLoadingControls.xml
Example:
<Module>
<Directory>AbuBakr</Directory>
<bLoad>1</bLoad>
</Module>
If bLoad is 1 AbuBakr will be in the game if 0 he won't.

Pack content:

Spoiler :

AbuBakr
Adenauer
Aelia Pulcheria
Afonso
Ahmadinejad
Akbar
Ashurbanipal
Ataturk
Atotoztli
Awiakta
Barbarossa
Basil
Caligula
Cartimandua
Cetshwayo
Charles V
Cheops
ChiangKaiSheck
Cixi
Cleopatra
Constantine
Delahaye
deWitt
Dido
Eyadema
FrancisII
Franco
Freydis
Gunnhild
Gustav Adolf
Harald Hardrada
Henry the Navigator
Henry VIII
Hiawatha
Hindenburg
Hirohito
Hitler
Ho Chi Minh
Ibn Saud
Idi Amin
IndiraGandhi
InnocentIII
Isabella
Ishtar
Itzcoatl
Ivan IV
Ix Yohl Ik'nal
Jayavarman
Jingu
JoanofArc
Kangxi
Khosrau
Kim Jong Il
KugBau
Lady Xoc
Lenin
Leonidas
Logan
LugalZageSi
Mandela
Mandukhai
Mangammal
Marcus
Maria Elenora
MariaII
Marpesia
Masinissa
Meiji
Menelik II
Mobutu
Mongkut
MSingh
Mursilis
Nanyehi
Nebuchadnezzar
Nefertiti
Nero
NicholasII
Pachacuti
Penthesilea
Pinochet
Puduhepa
Putin
Reagan
Richard
Richelieu
Saddam Hussein
Sargon
Scheherazade
Sejong
Selassie
Sennacherib
Shammuramat
Smoke Jaguar
Sundiata Keita
Taizong
Tamerlane
Theodora
Topiltzin
Trung Sisters
Urukagina
Van der Donck
Vercingetorix
Wilhelmina
Wu Zetian
Xerxes
Zenobia

 

[Hydromancerx]

@Desolator

Are these for existing C2C civs or additional ones too?

 

[Koshling]

@Desolator

Are these for existing C2C civs or additional ones too?

Beware, the art for civs/leaders tends to add significantly to memory footprint. If your game is at all marginal on MAFs this might push it over the edge.

 

[Desolator]

@Desolator

Are these for existing C2C civs or additional ones too?

Yes, they are all for existing civs. (Leader may not be appropriate in some cases.)

Spoiler :

AbuBakr - Arabia
Adenauer - Germany
Aelia Pulcheria - Byzantium
Afonso - Portugal
Ahmadinejad - Persia
Akbar - India
Ashurbanipal - Assyria (just art change)
Ataturk - Ottoman
Atotoztli - Aztec
Awiakta - Native America
Barbarossa - Holy Rome
Basil - Byzantium
Caligula - Rome
Cartimandua - Celtia
Cetshwayo - Zulu
Charles V - Spain
Cheops - Egypt (Khufu)
ChiangKaiSheck - China
Cixi - China
Cleopatra - Egypt
Constantine - Rome
Delahaye - France
deWitt - Netherlands
Dido - Carthage
Eyadema - Mali
FrancisII - Holy Rome
Franco - Spain
Freydis - Viking
Gunnhild - Viking
Gustav Adolf - Viking
Harald Hardrada - Viking
Henry the Navigator - Portugal
Henry VIII - England
Hiawatha - Iroquois
Hindenburg - Germany
Hirohito - Japan
Hitler - Germany
Ho Chi Minh - Khmer
Ibn Saud - Arabia
Idi Amin - Zulu
IndiraGandhi - India
InnocentIII - Holy Rome
Isabella - Spain (just art change)
Ishtar - Babylon
Itzcoatl - Aztec
Ivan IV - Russia
Ix Yohl Ik'nal - Maya
Jayavarman - Khmer
Jingu - Japan
JoanofArc - France
Kangxi - China
Khosrau - Persia
Kim Jong Il - Korea
KugBau - Sumeria
Lady Xoc - Maya
Lenin - Russia
Leonidas - Greece
Logan - Native America
LugalZageSi - Sumeria
Mandela - Zulu
Mandukhai - Mongolia
Mangammal - India
Marcus - Rome
Maria Elenora - Germany
MariaII - Portugal
Marpesia - Greece
Masinissa - Carthage
Meiji - Japan
Menelik II - Ethiopia (just art change)
Mobutu - Zulu
Mongkut - Khmer
MSingh - India
Mursilis - Hittite
Nanyehi - Native America
Nebuchadnezzar - Babylon
Nefertiti - Egypt
Nero - Rome
NicholasII - Russia
Pachacuti - Inca
Penthesilea - Greece
Pinochet - Inca
Puduhepa - Hittite
Putin - Russia
Reagan - USA
Richard - England
Richelieu - France
Saddam Hussein - Babylon
Sargon - Sumeria
Scheherazade - Persia
Sejong - Korea
Selassie - Ethiopia
Sennacherib - Assyria
Shammuramat - Assyria
Smoke Jaguar - Maya
Sundiata Keita - Mali
Taizong - China
Tamerlane - Mongolia
Theodora - Byzantium
Topiltzin - Aztec
Trung Sisters - Khmer
Urukagina - Sumeria
Van der Donck - Netherlans
Vercingetorix - Celts
Wilhelmina - Netherlands
Wu Zetian - China
Xerxes - Persia
Zenobia - Assyria

Is is the other pack extended with more lhs. English language recommended, because some lhs did not have its own xml, so, other had to be used.

 

[strategyonly]

OK, when your dealing with LH's for instance, you can NOT just add any LH to this mod, sorry everyone, it has to be done in a certain format, that can NOT be different from the main schema.

You have to make sure that each and every LH has this for sure:

1. You add the lines between : <!-- BBAI Victory Strategy --> Mandatory (Well actually all the list is mandatory really)

2. You have add this line in the memory area:

				<MemoryDecay>
					<MemoryType>MEMORY_INQUISITION</MemoryType>
					<iMemoryRand>25</iMemoryRand>
				</MemoryDecay>

3. You have to add this line in the percentage area:

<MemoryAttitudePercent>
					<MemoryType>MEMORY_INQUISITION</MemoryType>
					<iMemoryAttitudePercent>-100</iMemoryAttitudePercent>
				</MemoryAttitudePercent>

4. For this mod then in the Diplomacy Music area(s) are way different than normal.
You HAVE to make sure you have ALL the Era's listed here in EACH and EVERY music area below this that this mod has, ie: Prehistoric/Ancient/Classical/Medieval/Renaissance/Industrial/Modern/Transhuman/Galactic and Future.

But one you get the hang of it, it not that hard, i thought i had the LH package all made out already, isnt that in the 1st or 2nd post of the main mod area?

Now when dealing with civs it a whole new ballgame again.

 

[Desolator]

AFAIK all LHs have the values you mentioned. I can't check it all, but they have iCultureVictoryWeight, iSpaceVictoryWeight, iConquestVictoryWeighti, DominationVictoryWeight, iDiplomacyVictoryWeight between the <!-- BBAI Victory Strategy --> lines.
Also random checked a few (new), and the MEMORY_INQUISITION lines are there.
The music eras are there as well (prehistoric, transhuman, and galactic too).
As i mentioned, this pack contains all lhs from the main thread pack, plus 47 more (if i'm not mistaken). Use (or don't use) at will.

 

[strategyonly]

This one contains more LH than the pack in the main C2C thread.
This SHOULD work with current version but I did not test it in every aspect.
All credit goes to the people who created them.

Download:
Download Here

Install:
1. Extract to Beyond the Sword\Mods\Caveman2Cosmos\Assets\Modules\
(Allow the overwriting of the CIV4ModularLoadingControlsSchema.xml and the MLF_CIV4ModularLoadingControls.xml.)
2. Run (execute) the woc_installer.jar file in Beyond the Sword\Mods\Caveman2Cosmos\Assets\Modules\
(This merges the custom audio for some of the LHs)
3. (optional) Switch on/off any LH in the MLF_CIV4ModularLoadingControls.xml
Example:
<Module>
<Directory>AbuBakr</Directory>
<bLoad>1</bLoad>
</Module>
If bLoad is 1 AbuBakr will be in the game if 0 he won't.

Pack content:

Spoiler :

AbuBakr
Adenauer
Aelia Pulcheria
Afonso
Ahmadinejad
Akbar
Ashurbanipal
Ataturk
Atotoztli
Awiakta
Barbarossa
Basil
Caligula
Cartimandua
Cetshwayo
Charles V
Cheops
ChiangKaiSheck
Cixi
Cleopatra
Constantine
Delahaye
deWitt
Dido
Eyadema
FrancisII
Franco
Freydis
Gunnhild
Gustav Adolf
Harald Hardrada
Henry the Navigator
Henry VIII
Hiawatha
Hindenburg
Hirohito
Hitler
Ho Chi Minh
Ibn Saud
Idi Amin
IndiraGandhi
InnocentIII
Isabella
Ishtar
Itzcoatl
Ivan IV
Ix Yohl Ik'nal
Jayavarman
Jingu
JoanofArc
Kangxi
Khosrau
Kim Jong Il
KugBau
Lady Xoc
Lenin
Leonidas
Logan
LugalZageSi
Mandela
Mandukhai
Mangammal
Marcus
Maria Elenora
MariaII
Marpesia
Masinissa
Meiji
Menelik II
Mobutu
Mongkut
MSingh
Mursilis
Nanyehi
Nebuchadnezzar
Nefertiti
Nero
NicholasII
Pachacuti
Penthesilea
Pinochet
Puduhepa
Putin
Reagan
Richard
Richelieu
Saddam Hussein
Sargon
Scheherazade
Sejong
Selassie
Sennacherib
Shammuramat
Smoke Jaguar
Sundiata Keita
Taizong
Tamerlane
Theodora
Topiltzin
Trung Sisters
Urukagina
Van der Donck
Vercingetorix
Wilhelmina
Wu Zetian
Xerxes
Zenobia

I get this on the download:

 

[Desolator]

I get this on the download:

7-Zip v9.22 beta can extract it. (Checked on a fresh download a few minutes ago.)
7-Zip v9.20 portable also has no problems with it.
WinRAR v4.01 can extract it too.
If you have the up to date 7-z version, it could be a broken download.

 

[strategyonly]

7-Zip v9.22 beta can extract it. (Checked on a fresh download a few minutes ago.)
7-Zip v9.20 portable also has no problems with it.
WinRAR v4.01 can extract it too.
If you have the up to date 7-z version, it could be a broken download.

Yeppers that was the problem, i had an out dated 7-z version, thx. I will place them in the first post of the main mod, thx.