Age of Colonisation

ok, i have downloaded it =D
so, i will play now, but i have looked to the .biq before and i see some mistakes
so, here are some changes in the Mayas and the Aztecs (my especiality =D)

Mayans:
Palenque --> Palenque have to be renamed to Tikal, Palenque stays near the location of Texcoco in the map
Copán --> Copán stays 2 squares to north
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Aztecs:
Tenochtitlan and Texcoco are cities very near, in the map it are very far. and Tenochtitlan are in an wrong location, the locantion X:25 Y:83 or X:24 Y:84 is more correct.
Tlaxcala is another city near to Tenochtitlan, rename it to Huaztec, they are another people but is the only city name to stay in the region
I really don't know where Tlateloco stay in the map, but you can put Xoconoco in X:27 Y:89 or X:28 Y:90
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Another city names:
Ispaniola --> Hispaniola and stays where have an Barbarian Camp
Peching --> Peching can be renamed to Beijing
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Some cities that can be added:
Some cities in Korea and one in Greenland


well, now i will play the MOD, bye ^^
 
You should think about adding the Swahili City-States as a Civ.

The History of the Swahili City-States:
The eastern coast of Africa changed profoundly around the close of the first millennium AD.
During this time, Bantu-speaking Africans from the interior migrated and settled along the coast from Kenya to South Africa.
Next, merchants and traders from the Muslim world realized the strategic importance of the east coast of Africa for commercial traffic and began to settle there.
From 900 A.D., the east coast of Africa saw a increasing influx of traders and colonists from Persia, Arabia, and even India.
Marriages of Arab and Persian Traders to local women created and cemented a rich Swahili culture, fusing religion, architecture, textiles, methods of agriculture, and trading contacts.
The Arabs called this region al-Zanj, "The Blacks," and the coastal areas slowly came under the control of Muslim merchants from Arabia and Persia.
By the 1300's, the major east African ports from Mombaza in the north to Sofala in the south had become thoroughly Islamic cities and cultural centers.
The Swahili civilization expanded southwards until they reached Kilwa in Zanzibar (from the Arabic word al-Zan). Later, its inhabitants carved out a small territory even further south around Sofala in Zimbabwe.
While the northern cities remained localized and had little influence on African culture inland from the coast, the Sofalans actively went inland and spread Islam and Islamic culture deep in African territory.
The major Swahili city-states were Mogadishu, Barawa, Mombasa (Kenya), Gedi, Pate, Malindi, Zanzibar, Kilwa, and Sofala in the far south.
Kilwa was the most famous of these city-states and was particularly wealthy because it controlled the southern port of Sofala, which had access to the gold, produced in the interior (near "Great Zimbabwe"), and its location as the farthest point south at which ships from India could hope to sail and return in a single monsoon season.
These city-states were very cosmopolitan for their time and they were all politically independent of one another.
In fact, they were more like competitive companies or corporations, each vying for the lion's share of African trade.
The chief export was ivory, sandalwood, ebony, and gold.
Textiles from India and porcelain from China were also brought by Arab traders.
While the Arabs and Persians played a role in the growth of the Swahili civilization, the nobility was of African descent and they ran the city-states.
However, the nobility were Muslims and it was the Muslims who controlled the wealth. Below the nobility were the commoners and the resident foreigners who made up a large part of the citizenry.
However, Islam itself penetrated very little into the interior among the hunters, pastoralists, and farmers.
Even the areas of the coast near the trading towns remained relatively unaffected. In the towns, the mud and thatch houses of the non-Muslim common people surrounded the stone and coral buildings of the Muslim elite, and it seems that most followers of Islam were wealthy, not poor.
Still, a culture developed for the Swahili that fused African and Islamic elements.
Family lineage, for example, was traced both through the maternal line, which controlled property, an African practice, and through the paternal line, which was the Muslim tradition.
Swahili culture had a strong Islamic influence but retained many of its African origins.
These city-states began to decline in the sixteenth century; the advent of Portuguese trade disrupted the old trade routes and made the Swahili commercial centers obsolete.
The Portuguese wanted native Africans to have no share in African trade and busily set about conquering the Islamic city-states along the eastern coast.
In the late seventeenth century, the Imam (religious leader) of Oman drove the Portuguese from the coast, and gradually established his authority over the coast.
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As you can see from this description, they should make a :goodjob: interesting Civ.
 
As a fan of Mongol history, I've noticed that you have Mughal Empire, and the Golden Horde, included. Historically, the remnants of the Golden Horde came under Ottoman rule in 1475, this mod starts in 1496.

I don't know if this has been brought up before, I only read the first few pages of the thread.
 
LoboKhan said:
As a fan of Mongol history, I've noticed that you have Mughal Empire, and the Golden Horde, included. Historically, the remnants of the Golden Horde came under Ottoman rule in 1475, this mod starts in 1496.

I don't know if this has been brought up before, I only read the first few pages of the thread.
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That is not entirely correct.
Only the Khanate of Crimea became Ottoman Vassal in 1475.
The Khanates of Kazan, and Astrakhan were independent untill the early 1550s,
although it must be admitted that they were often in alliance with the Turks.
 
Well, if we really want to get technical, the Golden Horde was fractioned in the 1440s vis civil war. The split left the Golden Horde into the following Khanates; Qasim Khanate, Khanate of Kazan, Khanate of Astrakhan, Kazakh Khanate, Uzbek Khanate, and Khanate of Crimea.

Russia annexed most of the Khanates by 1550, intergrating the last of them by the end of the 1500s. The longest survivor from the Golden Horde fracture were the Khanate of Crimea, which did become a vassal state of the Ottomans in 1475, and survived until annexed in 1783.

BUT... all these Khanates were Golden Horde in little more then name only. Once the Golden Horde fractured, the pieces were quickly (within 100 years) swallowed up by the Russians and Ottomans.

Anyway, I've finished reading the thread, it looks like we're worried about the relevant civilizations of the time, which the Golden Horde were not. They were surviving simply at the mercy of other civilizations.

I've noticed more than a few places in this thread the need for additional native american civilizations, and I think the Golden Horde is taking the place of a more relevant choice.

Also, Imperator, I know others have offered, but if you'd like to write up civilopedia entries and send them to me I could put them into proper english.
 
EX-terminator said:
ok, i have downloaded it =D
so, i will play now, but i have looked to the .biq before and i see some mistakes
so, here are some changes in the Mayas and the Aztecs (my especiality =D)

Mayans:
Palenque --> Palenque have to be renamed to Tikal, Palenque stays near the location of Texcoco in the map
Copán --> Copán stays 2 squares to north
---------------------------------------------------
Aztecs:
Tenochtitlan and Texcoco are cities very near, in the map it are very far. and Tenochtitlan are in an wrong location, the locantion X:25 Y:83 or X:24 Y:84 is more correct.
Tlaxcala is another city near to Tenochtitlan, rename it to Huaztec, they are another people but is the only city name to stay in the region
I really don't know where Tlateloco stay in the map, but you can put Xoconoco in X:27 Y:89 or X:28 Y:90
---------------------------
Another city names:
Ispaniola --> Hispaniola and stays where have an Barbarian Camp
Peching --> Peching can be renamed to Beijing
---------------------------
Some cities that can be added:
Some cities in Korea and one in Greenland


well, now i will play the MOD, bye ^^
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Thanks Ex-terminator. I make the changes at the map.
 
LoboKhan said:
Well, if we really want to get technical, the Golden Horde was fractioned in the 1440s vis civil war. The split left the Golden Horde into the following Khanates; Qasim Khanate, Khanate of Kazan, Khanate of Astrakhan, Kazakh Khanate, Uzbek Khanate, and Khanate of Crimea.

Russia annexed most of the Khanates by 1550, intergrating the last of them by the end of the 1500s. The longest survivor from the Golden Horde fracture were the Khanate of Crimea, which did become a vassal state of the Ottomans in 1475, and survived until annexed in 1783.

BUT... all these Khanates were Golden Horde in little more then name only. Once the Golden Horde fractured, the pieces were quickly (within 100 years) swallowed up by the Russians and Ottomans.

Anyway, I've finished reading the thread, it looks like we're worried about the relevant civilizations of the time, which the Golden Horde were not. They were surviving simply at the mercy of other civilizations.

I've noticed more than a few places in this thread the need for additional native american civilizations, and I think the Golden Horde is taking the place of a more relevant choice.

Also, Imperator, I know others have offered, but if you'd like to write up civilopedia entries and send them to me I could put them into proper english.
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Me too I have some dubt with Golden Horde Civ. I have maintained it to wait to find a more reliable civilisation. Some requests are for another indian civ, but I personally think that three are the right number. Another african civ maybe the best as say by RedwallFortress ;), but the problem is to find units. For example there were few or none african units with muskets (and the few I have in the mod too).
Thanks for your help in write uo civilopedia entries is a great problem for me. For units desciption I can search in others Mods, but I have difficulties with buidings and wonder. If you can explore the Civilopedia.txt and find the buildings/wonders entries you will find these empty. It should be a great help for me if someone start to write these entries. :p
 
RedwallFortress said:
That is not entirely correct.
Only the Khanate of Crimea became Ottoman Vassal in 1475.
The Khanates of Kazan, and Astrakhan were independent untill the early 1550s,
although it must be admitted that they were often in alliance with the Turks.
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Thanks RedwallFortress. I admit your prop to add a civ called Swahili City-States is interesting for me. As I have said to LoboKhan, the main problem is to find new units for this civ.

Oh, I have find the site you post to me: I have asked to the moderators the possibility to hosting the Mod there.
 
RedwallFortress said:
You should think about adding the Swahili City-States as a Civ.



As you can see from this description, they should make a :goodjob: interesting Civ.
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Have you a map or a link to a map of the Swahili City-States?
 
imperator1961 said:
Very interesting site. I create new .zip file of the folder with the last changes I have made and try to upload it today. Thanks!
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The only problem I have with using mediafire is that you cannot update the files you upload. You can delete what you've uploaded, but that's it. So when you need to update your files, go to mediafire, delete what you've previously uploaded, and then upload the new (updated) file, and you will get a new link to the newest file.

You then have to post the new link in the forum here. It's not the best user friendly hosting site, but it handles large files extremely well, and it's free :)
 
imperator1961 said:
Have you a map or a link to a map of the Swahili City-States?
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Sadly, there are not :( meny maps that show them.
However they are on this map of the of the Eastern Hemisphire in 1300 A.D: Link
They cover about the same territory they did in 1492.
 
LoboKhan said:
The only problem I have with using mediafire is that you cannot update the files you upload. You can delete what you've uploaded, but that's it. So when you need to update your files, go to mediafire, delete what you've previously uploaded, and then upload the new (updated) file, and you will get a new link to the newest file.

You then have to post the new link in the forum here. It's not the best user friendly hosting site, but it handles large files extremely well, and it's free :)
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I have tryed to upload the Mod via mediafre.com but I find its' impossible because the maximun file amount is 100 MB.
 
RedwallFortress said:
Sadly, there are not :( meny maps that show them.
However they are on this map of the of the Eastern Hemisphire in 1300 A.D: Link
They cover about the same territory they did in 1492.
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Thanks RF. It's a interesting map, and the site too.
 
that need an South American Civ in Amazonia, the incans can cath it very easy...

so, i have looked at the map again, and i'm sorry for not say that the barbarian camp for Hispaniola isn't the barbarian camp in cuba, but in the island in the side, i don't remember the name, i think is literally Hispaniola =D, this will inplicate in the plains that have it become the 'marsh', that is the only one terrain that can be built. Need some new 'mashes' in the carib, in the little islands that have resourses and what one more in the strait of Panama, to make the passage to another sea. So, because the marsh is the only terrain that can be built, need more of then, greatly increase then in Russia and make the Colonists that are in the frontier start in a Marsh, because i have to move it, and i do not have the information that marsh was the only terrain that i can build a city. The increased moviment coast of Coast was wonderful, only need to add 1 caravel to the near Hispaniola, to simbolize the expedition that goes to found the city. I have found some Railroads in the map... can you explain it, i don't know why we have railroad there =P
 
No I disagree, there are already 8 Civ’s in America and the game doesn’t need another one.
Actually I think that maybe it would be interesting to remove one, and instead add a Civ in India that would represent the various Hindu Kingdoms.
The Mughals were only able to subdue the Southern part of the Subcontinent in the late 1680s, and even then not completely and for only for a brief period of time.
 
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