AI using artillery offensively?? Yeah right and you have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell

sabo

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I am playing a game now and I actually saw... "now hold on" I actually saw the AI use artillery in an OFFENSIVE ROLE!!

I couldn't believe it, and AI did it not once, but twice in the same turn!!!!

What a glorious day this is...
[dance]
 
What have you been smoking?

I want some.
 
If you don't post a screenshot or .sav no one will believe it!
 
I believe...the A.I is just darn reluctant to build any in my experience.
 
In my games the AI builds artillery for defense. Every city I conquer has 1-2 artillery units. These days I dont even bother building them, I just take them from the AI.

The issue is that the AI doesn't use Artillery offensively like human players do. We bring dozens of artillery units (including bombers) into battle to soften targets before striking with our land forces, the AI is reluctant to do that (but does stack heaps of INFANTRY).
 
They AI will use battleship's and Bombers extensively in the late portions of the game, but they don't build huge airforces or Navy's in my experience.

The only time i have actually seen the AI use artillery was DS2 when i was massacurring china. They had radar artillery bombing my nearby city preventing me from getting over the mountain range to the city within 1 turn..
 
I tried to force the AI to use artillery as offensive units in my civ3mod.bic, but I ended up with undefended artillery running around in my base.
 
I haven't seen many artillery shoots in my time, but the AI sure loves the bomb the snot out of you if you try any major landings within striking range of a city :D.
 
Originally posted by Ezekyel
I have seen the AI bombing roads and irrigations several times.
What have u exactly see Richard??

For some reason, I haven't had much trouble with bombing of my roads, railroads and so on, although my obsession with building fighters may have something to do with that; I shoot a lot of bombers attacking my homeland down. But on three different occasions I've had swarms of bombers go after my ships. They can't sink them, of course, but that doesn't help, because the AI seems to respond to my amphibious landings much as the brits expected to respond to a german invasion in 1940; bomb every ship you can, and then finish them off with suicidal raids by ships operating individually. I usually win in the end, but not without some casualties, and I have to commit a lot of planes on carriers to cover the troops on the ground.

As for artillery, like all of the above posters, I usually see the AI use artillery for defence alone.

And you're Argentine, eh? Pity about the team. I've always had a soft spot for Argentina, although I need to be a little richer before I can actually afford the 18 hour flight to visit...

R.III
 
Oh , yes Im in Argentina, lets not talk about the team :cry:
I have also seen the AI bombing my ships too with bombers and from there costal cities with there artillery too.
 
the really strange thing: the AI knows how to use artillery!!!!! They just don't do it sufficiently often!

In DS2, the Chinese and Japanese bombarded rail and road off those squares from which Radar Artillery could reach their cities, thus making me waste 1 turn!
 
My civ games are artillery intensive, but I use extremely modded values for them. In price and in power and range. I found that making artillery a full league higher than originally makes for more intense, realistic battles. The same goes for naval bombardment and air power. It makes blitzkrieg tactics all the more crucial.
 
'but they don't build huge airforces or Navy's in my experience. '

I have moddedd the rules a little (upped aircraft attack strength strength significantly and increased ship movement) but I find that some AI civs definetley tend to build both large airforces and navies.

Ive witnessed a 60 strong navy before (which nearly pounded mine into the ground) and a 30 strong air force.
 
Nope it happened again, same game... out came his arty and shot up a stack before attacking it, any one want a hit??
 
Originally posted by Dearmad
A full league hgher? What does that mean? And does the Ai then use Artillery offensively?
Oh, I meant in strength. Catapaults got the bombard of Cannons, Cannons of Arty, etc. etc. etc. Also modded up the ranges of the later age units. Pretty much the same stuff I do with the ground bombard units I'll do with air and naval bombard power. It does some good.
 
sabo10: I would send the sav to firaxis/sid meier and say thanks for doing something right for once :lol:
 
It wasn't a modded game, everything was set straight out of the box except the patch 121f
 
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