AI using caravels to launch attacks?

[Yzman]

I have noticed this in a few of my games. I get attacked by way of sneak landing.( The AI is much better at this now). However, I noticed, I am an ocean away and when I sent my ships to take care of the problems, there was only caravels there? How are they launching attacks on me using caravels to transport their units? Sadly I don't have a save anymore.

 

[Willem]

How are they launching attacks on me using caravels to transport their units?

They aren't. You can't load military units into a Caravel, that applies to the AI as well. They probably have some Galleons that you haven't seen yet.

 

[Yzman]

I am going to assume you are right, but to my knowledge they didn't have the tech for galleons yet. I could be wrong though. Plus it seems weird the galleons wouldn't be with the other ships.

 

[Willem]

Plus it seems weird the galleons wouldn't be with the other ships.

They're probably harboured in a city somewhere. The AI isn't that stupid that it would leave them hanging around where they can be attacked. They always park their Galleons in a safe location when they're not being used to transport troops. Or they may be using Galleys as well. At any rate, it's impossible for them to use Caravels, the AI gets no special bonus that way.

 

[FriendoftheDork]

The only "caravels" that can transport units are the portugese ones, I think they're called carracks.

 

[Draknith]

yes you are right about that. Only Carracks can transport troops and such. Look for any forts in the area also, as the AI might have sent their ships there.

 

[Onionsoilder]

The Viking Longboat can transport units as well, and can traverse oceans.

 

[bestbrian]

I believe that with Astronomy they can use galleys for this.

 

[JujuLautre]

The Viking Longboat can transport units as well, and can traverse oceans.

But the longboat is not an in-game unit

 

[FriendoftheDork]

The Viking Longboat can transport units as well, and can traverse oceans.

Isn't that unit from a mod? The only time I've seen it is in a Wolfshanze mod scenario. IIRC in vanilla BTS civs have only one UU, and the Vikings have berserkers.

 

[Onionsoilder]

My bad. I guess I play Wolfshanze to much...

 

[ThorRex]

On a somewhat related subject, "If caravels can attack a galley or a trireme, shouldn't they at least be able to attack a fishing boat?"

 

[FriendoftheDork]

On a somewhat related subject, "If caravels can attack a galley or a trireme, shouldn't they at least be able to attack a fishing boat?"

I guess they can't simply because they can enter closed borders in peace. Raiding fishing boats in peace is the privateer's job

Hmm, although subs can also do this, but I'm fairly certain if they try to attack fishing boats they provoke war...

Well I suppose Caravels are meant to be civillian ships too small for war. IIRC they can't blockade either, although they can attack and win against triremes so it's weird.

 

[nadeem]

make sure you're not playing colonization

 

[Wolfshanze]

My bad. I guess I play Wolfshanze to much...

That's not possible...

In any case, the Viking Longboat is a Medieval Cog replacement UU and only appears in the Wolfshanze Mod (but yes, it carries military units and sails the oceans).