AIs and the Art of War

[Trantor]

Thank you. I hoped AI is on python, C++ never was my strong side. So I can only wait.

been 15 years since i touched c++ but will be glad to help

 

[Trantor]

AI score is 3 times mine still i could enter, take 2 cites and dozen techs and get peace treaty with AI paying for it. they just defend and almost never counter attack

 

[Blazenclaw]

been 15 years since i touched c++ but will be glad to help

We always welcome people interested in helping out!

Regarding the unit AI.... it is somewhat broken at the moment, and made worse depending on some game options chosen. There is a plan in process by Thunderbird to basically overhaul many parts of it for the purpose of dealing with major fundamental issues in the current structure, but you're welcome to assist any way you like!

 

[Blazenclaw]

nightmare, ultra and prehistoric

Moving thread response because I don't think you're talking about AI autoplay- ultra gamespeed very well may cause some issue, say by the AI not having the time to stabilize necessary units.

They also don't do as well with raging barbs/barb world and reckless/dangerous animals as I see in your game options, but that's a symptom of likely the same cause, probably some flaw in their threat detection that's not allowing them to build the appropriate number of responding units.

AI score is 3 times mine

In this image, the score is vastly inflated from the number of vassals Zulu had- what concerns me more is that you had 5-10x the military might of the other AIs, though no comparison to Zulu itself.

 

[Trantor]

started a `new game as in blitz AI was lagging..

and now AI is chomping me up nicely..... currently bottom of the pyramid

 

[Trantor]

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retook the city only to loose it to barbarians

feels like barbarians are smarter than the AI players

 

[Trantor]

lost 3 cities to barbs!!

 

[JosEPh_II]

feels like barbarians are smarter than the AI players

Barb AI has less city management, Religious considerations, Culture, and economics to slow them down.

How is the AI on standing up to the barbs? They should be impacted as well.

 

[Thunderbrd]

The barb war unit control is also simpler and oddly more effective as a result...

 

[Trantor]

i retook all 4 cities lost to barb. AI seems to be defending well against barb but does not attack me even if we are on war

 

[Trantor]

barb cities are bigger than mine and AI cities

 

[Trantor]

finally defeated the barbarians!!!

 

[JosEPh_II]

i retook all 4 cities lost to barb. AI seems to be defending well against barb but does not attack me even if we are on war

While I have had AI attacks, the AI empires are More Defensive than they have been in the past. I was actually invaded from overseas. But that game is now toast with the save game breaking updates for v41.

 

[Trantor]

selling cities help to g\catch up on tech.... make cities on AI boarder and ell it to them

 

[JosEPh_II]

selling cities help to g\catch up on tech.... make cities on AI boarder and ell it to them

How many Techs can you get for each city selloff? I'm sure this is also dependent on Era, that the techs you are trying to buy, are in too.

Would you give some examples of your sells?

 

[Trantor]

i get 3-6 techs for size 1 city. so 1 settler with 3-5 guards.....go as close to target as possible, make city and sell

 

[Toffer90]

Perhaps the age of the city should influence its trade value significantly up to a point, mostly reduced value until old enough.
City trade value needs some reevaluation in any case, a pop 1 city shouldn't be worth much unless it has wonders or a huge culture value or something.

 

[Trantor]

size 2+ is useful to sell only if there is a barb army nearby......then barb will take the city and you can retake

 

[Faustmouse]

City is also worth a ton based on the land it claimed, either bei actual cultural boarders or those that it will expand to in the near future.

 

[Trantor]

took 4 cities from sumeria who is #1 in power and moved from being weakest to second weakest. AI needs to fight better
barbarians are still the best army and control many powerful cities