Ajax - Az'67 1-0

[Dell19]

Well at least he has improved his English but it looks like a full scale war could break out here...I would have thought PSV would be the richest club and they have several decent defenders (Faber, Hofland etc) and midfielders. Does Vogel (swiss player) play regularily for PSV because Championship manager its always a battle between him and Bommel for the defensive midfield role?

Try not to get angry, both of you

 

[atawa]

Good point with psv, but i think the times are over when they had a blank check from philips..

and no, I"m not taking this seriously at all
after all, he's from amsterdam

 

[willemvanoranje]

Kakkerlakken are Feyenoord-supporters.

Indeed, PSV has a lot of talents, I can't deny that. Hofland and Van Bommel are one of the best playing in Holland, and will move to an English club soon I think. There's no doubt PSV has a lot of very talented players. Most of them were bought though.....

Ajax produces its own talents, Van der Vaart, Heitinga (he will be the new #4 in the Ajax 4-3-3, he's really good. I think Feyenoord should have remembered that from last game. ) Then Yakubu, Chivu, Knopper (who is really from Rotterdam, 22 years old, howcome Feyenoord didn't see him?), Van der Meyde, Cruz, Maxwell, Zlatan, Mido, Pasanen, Piqué, Ikedia and Stekelenburg. All of them are already very good, or have great ability to become great footballers: Ajax has a future. Of the 25 players, 17 can are 23 or younger and can be considered talents, some greater than others. No doubt Chivu, Heitinga, Yakubu and off course Van der Vaart are the leaders of the talents. Van der Vaart really is the leader, and Chivu already is captain.
Now Feyenoord only has one really good talent in their youth: that guy called Persi or something. Besides that, Van Marwijk is just too afraid to put in young players, and if he puts them in, they suck (I'm refering to Sprockel here ).
The only thing I can advice Ajax to do is get Hersi and Witschge back. That's the only thing I would like to see changed.
Talking about Witschge, I remember a game between Feyenoord and Ajax...... I can't stop laughing, you probably know what I'm talking about, such an humiliation you can't forget...........just like the 6-0 defeat in the year Feyenoord became champion last time(1999).

 

[willemvanoranje]

Originally posted by atawa
Good point with psv, but i think the times are over when they had a blank check from philips..

and no, I"m not taking this seriously at all
after all, he's from amsterdam

Amazing how someone can begin so good and end with crap. I a gree on the PSV thing, at least if what you're trying to say is that PSV is sh*t without Philips.
Why attack my city? I'm from Amsterdam and I'm proud of it, just like I'm proud of being Dutch and European. I think you're proud to be from Leiden (or Rotterdam originally?), I understand that, and if you can't undertsand that I'm proud to be an Amsterdammer you're just naive, very 'kortzichtig' and besides that stupid.
Think for a moment: didn't you curse, weren't you mad, didn't you wanna hit something after the four matches against Portugal and Ireland of Holland? I know this is different, and the *war* between Feyenoord and Ajax is much worse thatn Holland-Germany......

Maybe you don't wanna answer this question, but what level of education did/do you do?

 

[atawa]

Originally posted by some little kid
Kakkerlakken are Feyenoord-supporters.

Hmm not a verry nice thing to say, although i tend to agree with you on this one

Indeed, PSV has a lot of talents, I can't deny that. Hofland and Van Bommel are one of the best playing in Holland, and will move to an English club soon I think. There's no doubt PSV has a lot of very talented players. Most of them were bought though.....

Yeah english clubs want good players, how many ajax players will play in england in the nxt 5 years?

Ajax produces its own talents, Van der Vaart, Heitinga (he will be the new #4 in the Ajax 4-3-3, he's really good. I think Feyenoord should have remembered that from last game. )

yeah vd vaart is getting verry good

Then Yakubu, Chivu, Knopper (who is really from Rotterdam, 22 years old, howcome Feyenoord didn't see him?)

bought, bought, and received his training at feyenoord till he got bought.....

Van der Meyde, Cruz, Maxwell, Zlatan, Mido, Pasanen, Piqué, Ikedia and Stekelenburg

bought, bought, bought, bought this year lol, bought, bought, who??, bought, who??

All of them are already very good, or have great ability to become great footballers: Ajax has a future.

Man if this is it, ajax has some bad years to come, at least they have a decent coach now

Now Feyenoord only has one really good talent in their youth: that guy called Persi or something. Besides that, Van Marwijk is just too afraid to put in young players, and if he puts them in, they suck (I'm refering to Sprockel here ).

First off all,who gives a fok about feyenoord, second, they do have a good selection of talents though, van persie, sprockel (if you say he sucks, why did even oppersmurf van gaal like him so much?), elmander, emmerton (who will be playing at leeds nxt year), smolarek, leonardo (if this guy can get his head together), not to mention they have a couple of guys at excelsior

ah well, i might just be to objective for this thread

 

[willemvanoranje]

Aight, you got a point concerning Emmerton. Can't say anything bad about that guy........really.

Now you claim that they all have been bought. Wrong. All of them have played at least 1 year in the youth or the 2nd, with exception of those that came this season.

Now I wanna know, which club do you support?!

EDIT:

originally posted by some guy who thinks he's better 'cause he might be older, but most certainly not bigger:
ah well, i might just be to objective for this thread

Yes you are and so am I. But were would be the fun if we weren't?

 

[Dell19]

I am guessing its a team from a lower division since he hasn't brought it up, and it could be Excelsior.

 

[willemvanoranje]

Originally posted by Dell19
I am guessing its a team from a lower division since he hasn't brought it up althoough it could be Excelsior.

Could be. But then I don't get his anti-Ajax attitude. If it is a club from a lower division it probably is ADO Den Haag.

 

[willemvanoranje]

Ajax lost 3-1 to Fc Utrecht, but htey're still 'autumn-champion' so.......first succes in 3 years I think.

 

[atawa]

Originally posted by willemvanoranje


Think for a moment: didn't you curse, weren't you mad, didn't you wanna hit something after the four matches against Portugal and Ireland of Holland? I know this is different, and the *war* between Feyenoord and Ajax is much worse thatn Holland-Germany......

No, I expected this when they made van gaal manager only thing he proved in his career is that he can take a bunch of very talented rookies and mold them into a team. That he took away the fun in football in the meantime didnt matter 'its all about the system'
He proved in barcelona that he cant handle big players, shouting to rivaldo like he's some schoolboy will only get you fired.

Why do you think v nistelrooy (best player we have right now dont you agree?) didnt play against denmark?
He didnt take this bull**** any longer, as no player of his caliber should.

Maybe you don't wanna answer this question, but what level of education did/do you do?

University, I studied anthropology (look it up in the dictionary ), politics (politicologie) and did a year law.
what about you?

 

[willemvanoranje]

orignally posted by atawa
No, I expected this when they made van gaal manager only thing he proved in his career is that he can take a bunch of very talented rookies and mold them into a team. That he took away the fun in football in the meantime didnt matter 'its all about the system'
He proved in barcelona that he cant handle big players, shouting to rivaldo like he's some schoolboy will only get you fired.

Why do you think v nistelrooy (best player we have right now dont you agree?) didnt play against denmark?
He didnt take this bull**** any longer, as no player of his caliber should.

Van Gaal did not remove the fun in the game when he was at Ajax, that system back there was one of the most attractive ones ever seen. However, you're right about him and big ones, and I'm surprised you don't even talk about Co Adriaanse, because he is even worse. As soon as those guys are 23 Adriaanse can't handle them. He put away Witschge......how stupid can one be?!
I agree Van Nistelrooy is the best striker we have at the moment, the Mancunians are very, very, very lucky to have him. Without him they'd be like 4 places lower in the league and out of the FA-cup (or was it league-cup against Aston Villa?)

originally posted by atawa
University, I studied anthropology (look it up in the dictionary ), politics (politicologie) and did a year law.
what about you?

you've been talking to dr. mr. ing. Willemvanoranje.....andeeeh, I'm very aware of the meaning of anthropology.......biologie and CKV (ok, ok, this one hasn't got to do with it....that much) aren't really my favorites.....

So you're from Eindhoven?

EDIT: Or from the Efteling, reading your *location*

 

[Dell19]

We would be out of the FA cup since we were knocked out of the league cup along time ago...

 

[atawa]

Originally posted by willemvanoranje

and I'm surprised you don't even talk about Co Adriaanse, because he is even worse. As soon as those guys are 23 Adriaanse can't handle them. He put away Witschge......how stupid can one be?!

Why waste time on just another bad clone?

you've been talking to dr. mr. ing. Willemvanoranje.....andeeeh, I'm very aware of the meaning of anthropology.......biologie and CKV (ok, ok, this one hasn't got to do with it....that much) aren't really my favorites.....

Cultural Anthropology actualy, finished that, didnt do the end paper in politicologie but did everything else, so just Drs Atawa

So what do you really do Mr Akkermans?

So you're from Eindhoven?

Or from the Efteling, reading your *location*

Thank god no...brabant

Btw willem, what are you more proud of: being Hollander or Nederlander?

 

[willemvanoranje]

You're right about Co Adriaanse, why waste time on him. He sucks, you know it, I know it.

Ok, for real, VWO 4, profiel = Economie Maatschappij met Spaans

And I'm more proud of being Dutch, in Noord-Holland you have Amsterdam and further only farmland.......nuttin to be proud of...

 

[atawa]

Originally posted by willemvanoranje

And I'm more proud of being Dutch, in Noord-Holland you have Amsterdam and further only farmland.......nuttin to be proud of...

Why not? think the landscapes around edam/volendam and the city's of Haarlem and Alkmaar are quite charming, even tourists whom I met in hill street blues (coffeshop in warmoesstr, nxt to policestation) told me so, it gave them the impresion off the 'old holland' they said

 

[willemvanoranje]

'The old empty Holland with a mill and a canal.......mwahaha. Yeah, seriously. I'm more proud of being *Amsterdammer* than Hollander.

 

[willemvanoranje]

Ajax played a benefit-game against Volendam (won 5-1) and plays against VfL Wolfsburg at the moment............boring games though..............

 

[atawa]

Was that game still for the fire victims? Or is volendam short on money again?

 

[willemvanoranje]

Still for the fire victims.....Ronald Koeman thinks they should have such a game every year.....

 

[duke o' york]

I saw the highlights of PSV thrashing Groningen 8-0!! Quite a game! No contest at all, obviously, but some good goals. What does (if anything) Van Bommel mean in Dutch? His name sounds like he should be a really tough player, but he doesn't look like one.