Alcohol Poisoning

greenpeace said:
I'm not telling people how to live I'm just giving my opinion. Its not liking I'm kicking people down to the ground because they drink. Also having drunkards doesn't contribute to peaceful anarchy, in fact it contributes to preventing it (although you should defiantly have the right to drink in a society, however foolish it is).
You should go drinking with me once ;)
 
Taliesin said:
Ah, I think I had you confused with someone else.

Never mind then, it's not as important. I mean, I still advise against drinking more than two units a day, especially to start out with, but you needn't worry quite so much about it.

Two units isn't enough to get drunk. :(
 
augurey said:
Two units isn't enough to get drunk. :(
Well, you can certainly drink more than two units in one particular day, but if you're drinking every day it's not wise to exceed one or two.
 
augurey said:
Two units isn't enough to get drunk. :(
It is enough to feel though. To me two glasses of red wine will give me a mellow pot or opiate like buzz. I much prefer that to getting drunk. But then again my liver got a lot of exercise when I was in my 20s so that may be part of it.
 
The best way to achieve alcohol poisoning, assuming you're not a regular heavy drinker, is to drink something of medium proof, because if you drink something too weak you'll just spend all night peeing, and if you drink something too strong, you'll just end up puking.

Hope this helps. :)
 
I think 'achieving' alcohol poisoning isn't that easy. I've been really drunk a few times, but I've never even got close to poisoning, because my stomach would rebel much earlier.
And I think it's almost impossible to get it with beer, you'd have to drink enourmous amounts :)

anyway, being really drunk is overrated IMHO. I stopped drinking like that somewhere in my early 20s because I just didn't like it anymore. Now, the feeling of having a slight buzz is much superior IMHO (and much healthier too)
 
It's not just the amount of alcohol in your drink that determines how drunk you become. Things like how much food you've had, what sort of food, how much else you've drunk, how you drink it and how fast all help decide how drunk you become.

The easiest and most dangerous way is to drink spirits all at once. About 200ml of vodka will erase the memory of most people. It's very dangerous. You should avoid 'doing' shots, if you can. If people are really keen on getting you to down a shot, limit it to one or two.

Getting drunk by drinking too much wine is far easier on the stomach and throat, and far easier to control and prevent. I find that beer and cider are too weak to get drunk from, but if you've never drunk before you won't.

You should line your stomach with some fats before drinking: a slurp of milk is a quick and easy one, though a rich cheese is better. Rich foods tend to be held in the stomach, where alcohol uptake is slow (compared to under the tongue or in the intestine) and alcohol degradation occurs.

Remember that alcohol reduces muscle tone, so if you've a big race the next day, don't rink heavily. Similarly, it reduces smooth muscle tone. That won't lead to incontinence, but you will find that heavy nights out do strange things to your bowels. It's normal. I've known people think that they're allergic to alcohol because of such things.
 
Alcohol poisoning is hard to achieve, but easier for non-experienced drinkers who use higher proof liquors and use unconventional means of delivery. For example, when I was just out of college, a young girl attending Rutgers died of alcohol poisoning through the consumption of jello shots. She was young and consumed them like candy.
 
Advice for safe drinking: stick with beer.

As a beginner, you can certainly get drunk quite quickly with beer (probably round 2 litres), but all thats gonna happen is that you'll throw up a few times and you'll be allright.

Later on, you'll find its easy to tell when you should consider a beer your last and after a couple years of drinking you'll find that the limiting factor in drinking beer is how much liquid you can absorb.
 
I think you will find noone will actually chastise you for chosing not to drink.

I'll get trollied when i feel like it, but some nights drink nothing at all.
 
Atlas14 said:
I wanna know how I should be drinking if I am going to do it at all. Obviously getting drunk every day isn't healthy, but is drinking a few beers everyday a reason to fear getting alcohol disease? I am curious.

The effects of alcohol on an individual vary greatly, but you won't develop neither chirosis nor a physical dependency on alcohol. You might develop a psychological dependency on the drinking act itself - i.e., meeting with your friends in the pub for a few beers.

And you definitely will develop a beer belly - fast! - unless you exercise on a regular basis. ;)
 
greenpeace said:
I'm not telling people how to live I'm just giving my opinion. Its not liking I'm kicking people down to the ground because they drink. Also having drunkards doesn't contribute to peaceful anarchy, in fact it contributes to preventing it (although you should defiantly have the right to drink in a society, however foolish it is).

You should chill out. Go out and have a beer. ;)
 
The average sized (around 180-190 lbs guy) guy's body can process one drink in a hour. Three drinks an hour will knock your BAL up to around a .1, the old legal limit in most US states. Alcohol poisoning hits at around .3 and above. Keep it at or under 2 drinks an hour and you should be OK.

Avoid shotgunning, chug contsts, beer bonging, shots, keg stands and grain alcohol. Drink on a full stomach. Food holds the alcohol in your stomach and delays its absorbtion into the blood. Beer is the smarter bet, the same amount of alcohol in a larger drink which takes longer to finish.

If you feel like you gotta puke, do it dont fight it.
 
A lot of good advice already, but I'll give you another tip:

Drink slowly, preferably weaker beverages such as beer, and give your body time to realize when it's had enough!

It's practically impossible to get alcohol poisoning that way, because, long before you reach that point, your body will tell you to stop - you'll puke or fall asleep or simply gag at drinking any more.
The only way to actually reach the point of alcohol poisoning is by drinking very quickly - with beer you'd have to chug quite a few right after another... but avoid shots of hard liquor! If you're inexperienced, they can hit you before you know it!

My personal recommendation: just drink for the taste ... a good wine, a tasty malt whisky ... or whatever you happen to like - but never as a competition and never, ever on a dare or because of peer pressure!
 
Panda said:
The effects of alcohol on an individual vary greatly, but you won't develop neither chirosis nor a physical dependency on alcohol. You might develop a psychological dependency on the drinking act itself - i.e., meeting with your friends in the pub for a few beers.

And you definitely will develop a beer belly - fast! - unless you exercise on a regular basis. ;)
The above is definately true when using alcohol occasionally. Things do change for the real alcoholics. Alcohol withdrawal can be fatal. But to get to that point you'll have to stay hammered for years.

Wikipedia said:
Alcohol withdrawal is significantly different from withdrawal from other drugs in that it can be directly fatal. While it is possible for heroin addicts, for instance, to die from other health problems made worse by the strain of withdrawal, an otherwise healthy alcoholic can die from the direct effects of withdrawal if it is not properly managed. Heavy consumption of alcohol reduces the production of GABA, which is a neuroinhibitor. An abrupt stop of alcohol consumption can induce a condition where neither alcohol nor GABA exists in the system in adequate quantities, causing uncontrolled firing of the synapses. This manifests as hallucinations, shakes, convulsions, seizures, and possible heart failure, all of which are collectively referred to as delirium tremens.

Quoted from Wiki on Alcoholism.
 
Dragonlord said:
My personal recommendation: just drink for the taste ... a good wine, a tasty malt whisky ... or whatever you happen to like - but never as a competition and never, ever on a dare or because of peer pressure!
QFT that's some sound advice right there :)
 
Taliesin said:
Poisoning refers to having too much in the system at once. I think the long-term effect on the liver is called cirrhosis.
Whatever its called it's not good.
 
Panda said:
And you definitely will develop a beer belly - fast! - unless you exercise on a regular basis.
Back when we were starting at uni, we had two weeks on a diet of junk food and booze. I lost 2-3 kgs.
 
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