1. We have added a Gift Upgrades feature that allows you to gift an account upgrade to another member, just in time for the holiday season. You can see the gift option when going to the Account Upgrades screen, or on any user profile screen.
    Dismiss Notice

Alexander's... "Greek"

Discussion in 'Civ5 - General Discussions' started by MrBlobby, Jan 10, 2014.

  1. Kimuyama

    Kimuyama Prince

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2010
    Messages:
    415
    Location:
    Västra Götaland, Sweden
    Alexander was Greek; Macedonia was a Greek-speaking, Greek-cultured kingdom located in what was then and what still is considered Greece.

    You're right about the other two, though.
     
  2. Sturmgewher88mm

    Sturmgewher88mm Kaiser

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2013
    Messages:
    388
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    石川琉球
    Lol to you still not having a signature :goodjob:

    Enrico's voice is really annoying when you open diplomacy with him (which is WAY too frequent). All I hear is him yelling "BAR BAR BAR BAR... Tempo" :p
     
  3. otaman1

    otaman1 Prince

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2013
    Messages:
    2,697
    Well, their official language was Dutch. And Willem stutters a lot, which is idk if he stutters a lot or not. I'm guessing he does.
     
  4. apocalypse105

    apocalypse105 Deity

    Joined:
    May 17, 2011
    Messages:
    2,705
    Willem van oranje

    The dutch grammar is awefull
     
  5. Louis XXIV

    Louis XXIV Le Roi Soleil

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2003
    Messages:
    13,579
    Location:
    Norfolk, VA
    I'm guilty of this too (see my post about Genghis), but how do we know this? We like to think of impressive military leaders as impressive sounding men, but that's certainly not always the case. Unless there are actual contemporary sources describing his voice in that way, I don't think there's any reason to assume something.
     
  6. Moraiwe

    Moraiwe Warlord

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2008
    Messages:
    119
    Location:
    Melbourne, Australia
    There is one obvious error, the Italian word for doge is used instead of the Venetian, but otherwise it is indeed good.
     
  7. Arachnofiend

    Arachnofiend Perturbed Pugilist

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2012
    Messages:
    1,950
    You could conceivably excuse this by saying that Catherine was a German who had to learn Russian after marrying into the royal family but I doubt they thought that far.
     
  8. otaman1

    otaman1 Prince

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2013
    Messages:
    2,697
    Willem was from a German speaking part of the Holy Roman Empire.
     
  9. Gustavus Rex

    Gustavus Rex Prince

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2013
    Messages:
    428
    True. House of Vasa though, in general, was a bunch of violent savage pshychopaths. There is some sources letters and of powerful speaches. I just can't really see him as a soft fun guy from Gothenburg. :)
     
  10. local_hero

    local_hero Prince

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2013
    Messages:
    567
    Location:
    Sweden
    Do you really think the voice actor is from Gothenburg? I don't feel convinced and it is difficult to decide what dialect it is. Haha, and violent savage psychopaths, shouldn't that more apply to Gustav Vasa and perhaps some of his sons... don't think that it does for Gustavus.
     
  11. Sturmgewher88mm

    Sturmgewher88mm Kaiser

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2013
    Messages:
    388
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    石川琉球
    I'm still bothered by him looking like a completely different person :crazyeye:
     
  12. local_hero

    local_hero Prince

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2013
    Messages:
    567
    Location:
    Sweden
    Agree. Would like to complement Firaxis for many nice leaders, voice acting and backgrounds but making Gustavus Adolphus look like somebody else (his uncle Erik XIV) just seems lazy when making research. Otherwise I really like Gustavus leader screen.

    Edit: I don't know how the chances are for Sweden being represented in civ again, but I suppose they aren't too high. So too bad they couldn't really nail it.
     
  13. seanflokstra7

    seanflokstra7 Prince

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2013
    Messages:
    517
    Location:
    In your mind
    Wh whaat?

    I'll try again
     
  14. bcaiko

    bcaiko Emperor

    Joined:
    May 9, 2011
    Messages:
    1,412
    Location:
    Washington, DC
    Elizabeth's voice actress is a well-respected dialect expert. I'm betting Elizabeth's voice is closer to how she actually spoke in court than you want it to be.

    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0501700/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t20

    http://www.julialenardon.com/Home.html

    It's Greek, isn't it? I recognize some of the words. Dido herself was Greek in the story of Carthage's founding.

    Washington was Virginian. Have you been to Virginia (outside of the DC Metro area)? Even today it's a distinct accent. Washington wasn't from anywhere near New England and I don't think he ever even visited the British Isles (and he certainly didn't as a child). His accent would have been more southernly.
     
  15. otaman1

    otaman1 Prince

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2013
    Messages:
    2,697
    She's speaking Hebrew
     
  16. Gustavus Rex

    Gustavus Rex Prince

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2013
    Messages:
    428
    I think they liked Eriks bierd & fit body. The face still looks more like the actual Gustav. I'm not to bothered about it. He's got a reprentative look for a swedish ruler.
     
  17. Gustavus Rex

    Gustavus Rex Prince

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2013
    Messages:
    428
    Sounds like it at least. Yea, his grandfather, father and all of his uncles. (Magnus Vasa was i full blown nutcase) The apple never falls far from the tree. ;)
     
  18. local_hero

    local_hero Prince

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2013
    Messages:
    567
    Location:
    Sweden
    I'm from Gothenburg, sort of. It might be somewhere close, perhaps Västergötland? Ah well. I didn't think of Johan III as crazy, but my thought was that Gustavus probably had a more royal upbringing than his father and uncles (and certainly his grandfather) and with good teachers. I might be wrong, but I think Gustavus was of a better caliber than his family. :)
     
  19. Guandao

    Guandao Rajah of Minyue and Langkasuka

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2011
    Messages:
    5,584
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    New York City
    I will comment on the languages not mentioned so far.

    Wu Zetian's Chinese is definitely not befitting of royalty, very plain, like she's a commoner. It would be awesome if she spoke the Mandarin dialect of Xian. Plus a reconstruction of Middle Chinese has been done by scholars before, I guess they wanted Mandarin speakers to understand the dialogue, but it is so simple.

    I sent youtube clips of Gajah Mada to my faculty advisor (he did work in Java, and knows Javanese as well as Indonesian), his short reply was "it's fractured Javanese, sort of". Make of that if you will.

    Dido is speaking Phoenician, although perhaps with some Hebrew words.

    Askia is speaking Zarma, a Songhai language.
    Shaka is speaking Zulu.
    Haile Selassie is speaking Amharic.
    Nebuchadnezzar and Ashurbanipal are speaking Akkadian, though they should have probably spoken Aramaic.
    Kamehameha is speaking Hawaiian (his voice actor is a scholar on the Hawaiian language)
    Pocatello is speaking Shoshone.
    Hiawatha is speaking Mohawk.
    Montezuma is speaking Nahuatl, a modern version with Spanish loanwords.
    Pacal is speaking Yucatec Maya.
    Pachacuti is speaking Quechua, apparently Ecuadorian, with Spanish loanwords (Imperio Inca :rolleyes:)
     
  20. Knux

    Knux Chieftain

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2014
    Messages:
    15
    About Ramesses II speaking Classical Arabic.
    Ancient egyptians spoke, well, ancient egyptian which has nothing to do with Arabic. It's closer to semitic and berber languages. But it's understandable, Ancient Egyptian is a dead language, deader than "dead" languages like Latin.
     

Share This Page