All Quiet on the Civ Front

[IdiotStyle]

Tonight i dream it was a music pack from the cree tribe...

 

[c4c6]

Food for thought for the "2nd anniversary announcement" boosters: Sarah, high queen of marketing, is on vacation this week.

Tranquility before the storm! (Next Tuesday)

Vacation where? Any radio station we should take notice of ... you know, featuring a video game & a queen ...

 

[Zaarin]

I'd say Maya(Lady Six Sky) and Vietnam (Trung sisters) could easily have them... Portugal's Maria and Carthage's Dido were pretty controversial so I doubt they return.

Austria's Maria Theresa is promising. Palmyra/Syria/Aram led by Zenobia still can't be ruled out as a dark horse. Ethiopia could have Zewditu.

I'm shooting for Parthia.

Next game. We're already stuck with Scythia this time around.

 

[The Kingmaker]

Ethiopia could have Zewditu

Don’t forget Yodit/Gudit.

 

[c4c6]

Don’t forget Yodit/Gudit.

... as well as Doit/Giveit ... the dll

 

[Guandao]

Austria's Maria Theresa is promising. Palmyra/Syria/Aram led by Zenobia still can't be ruled out as a dark horse. Ethiopia could have Zewditu.


Next game. We're already stuck with Scythia this time around.

Do you want Maria Theresa old or young in Civ6?

How well attested is the Parthian language? Wouldn't their cities overlap with Persia?

 

[Zaarin]

Do you want Maria Theresa old or young in Civ6?

Old is more iconic, but...

How well attested is the Parthian language?

Very well.

Wouldn't their cities overlap with Persia?

Yes, but name them in Parthian rather than Greek and Farsi and there you go.

 

[Guandao]

Old is more iconic, but...


Very well.


Yes, but name them in Parthian rather than Greek and Farsi and there you go.

Can they find someone to write the Parthian dialogue easily? Are all the Parthian names for these cities attested?

The bigger question is, what does Parthia offer that Persia doesn't have?

 

[Zaarin]

Can they find someone to write the Parthian dialogue easily? Are all the Parthian names for these cities attested?

1) Probably? 2) Probably.

The bigger question is, what does Parthia offer that Persia doesn't have?

No, the better question is what does Parthia have that Scythia doesn't have? And the answer is a list of cities, attested leaders who actually existed, and Zoroastrianism. I definitely want the Parthians for my Iranian horse raider civ next time around.

 

[Guandao]

1) Probably? 2) Probably.


No, the better question is what does Parthia have that Scythia doesn't have? And the answer is a list of cities, attested leaders who actually existed, and Zoroastrianism. I definitely want the Parthians for my Iranian horse raider civ next time around.

It's not so much an Iranian horse raider Civ niche than an ancient-era horse archer Civ niche. The Huns weren't Iranian.
I could live without the ancient-era horse raider Civ in the next Civ incarnation.

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

Do you want Maria Theresa old or young in Civ6?

Young Maria Theresa can't marry off her children to other leaders.
Btw @FXS_Sarah it's my birthday tomorrow!

 

[Zaarin]

It's not so much an Iranian horse raider Civ niche than an ancient-era horse archer Civ niche. The Huns weren't Iranian.
I could live without the ancient-era horse raider Civ in the next Civ incarnation.

You've got essentially two options for Eurasian horse raider civs: Iranian and Turkic, and Turkic horse raiders don't really enter the scene until the Middle Ages. (The ethnicity of the Huns is still an open question. Were they Germanic? Were they Turkic? Were they from further east? We don't know!) We're going to have a horse raider civ. I want the one who actually had an empire. You could say the Parthians weren't just a one trick pony.

 

[Guandao]

Young Maria Theresa can't marry off her children to other leaders.
Btw @FXS_Sarah it's my birthday tomorrow!

You really want that mechanic back from Civ5? I was so annoyed by Austria gobbling up all the city-states.

 

[Leathaface]

Food for thought for the "2nd anniversary announcement" boosters: Sarah, high queen of marketing, is on vacation this week.

Is it good or bad they she's on vacation? I assume bad?

She announces new Civs when they are being revealed on YouTube, but I was thinking if there was new content for VI's second anniversary Firaxis could reveal it in a stream on twitch without Sarah?

 

[Zaarin]

Is it good or bad they she's on vacation? I assume bad?

It could mean she has a lot of work coming up.

 

[Guandao]

You've got essentially two options for horse raider civs: Iranian and Turkic, and Turkic horse raiders don't really enter the scene until the Middle Ages. (The ethnicity of the Huns is still an open question. Were they Germanic? Were they Turkic? Were they from further east? We don't know!) We're going to have a horse raider civ. I want the one who actually had an empire. You could say the Parthians weren't just a one trick pony.

Germanic Huns that looked Central Asian? I recall Attila the Hun being described with Central/or East Asian features by Jordanes. I'm sure they picked up a Germanic language in Europe, but they were originally from further east.
Why do we need a "horse raider" Civ when the Mongols already exist?

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

You really want that mechanic back from Civ5? I was so annoyed by Austria gobbling up all the city-states.

Not the same mechanic but something like this: Marriage Negotiations- Gain more diplomatic visibility when sending a delegation or embassy and increase alliance points faster when you have one. Gains 1 more influence point per turn towards envoys.

 

[Zaarin]

Germanic Huns that looked Central Asian? I recall Attila the Hun being described with Central/or East Asian features by Jordanes.

NB that all Eurasian steppe cultures were multiethnic.

I'm sure they picked up a Germanic language in Europe

Well, again, that's still debated. Hunnic probably wasn't Iranian, but Germanic, Turkic, and I believe even Slavic have all been suggested and none of them proven. Specifically Attila has been proposed to be Germanic, "little father," which seems plausible but is awfully slim evidence--Turkic etymologies have been proposed as well.

they were originally from further east.

When I said "further east," I meant further east than the western Eurasian steppe, but again that has by no means been demonstrated. (And yes, there were Germanic peoples on the hodgepodge highway that was the Eurasian steppe.)

Why do we need a "horse raider" Civ when the Mongols already exist?

Beats me, but if I were designing the game I'd leave out a lot of popular civs, so I may not be the best person to ask. "In Civ7, to make up for Civ6's overabundance of Greece, we now have absolutely zero Greeks!"

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

Beats me, but if I were designing the game I'd leave out a lot of popular civs, so I may not be the best person to ask. "In Civ7, to make up for Civ6's overabundance of Greece, we now have absolutely zero Greeks!"

We're always going to get Alexander. As for a good classical era nomadic empire, that had cities, there is always the Kushan Empire as well.

 

[Zaarin]

We're always going to get Alexander.

Even if I deigned to include the Greeks, I would permaban Alexander the Punchable.