Alternate History NESes; Spout some ideas!

[Reno]

I'm not sure yet about the setting (Although this new alternate you now have looks good) but of cource when i have chosen a setting, i'd definatly need help with it. Especially making the stats. But for now, i'll keep looking and then make up my mind.

but what other (non-fantasy) setting that allows for a situation where Venetian-hired mammoth-riding Vikings attack a Chinese army armed with repeatitive crossbows do you know?

 

[Toteone]

Islamic Europe would be good, but too much roleplay.

I think the recolonization of Africa would be nice, because players would be given an allotment of money and resources to spend every year on colonial wars and if designed the right way noone would take the game seriously and sparks would fly safely since it's noones home base!

... maybe even some low-powered nukes...

 

[das]

Well, admittedly I don't think that one happened there so far, but its quite likely the way things are going (i.e. the Vikings are already quite obsessed with mammoths and the Venetians are already quite un-nice to Mu'lan-pi).

 

[Toteone]

A free-for-all Africa, a world map where everyone has an impressive home base but can't attack their neighbors anywhere but in Africa.
Thermal detonators would fly...

 

[das]

Any more guesses? I am rather surprised Panda didn't notice it yet, I think he would have been quite excited by the prospects of a fascist France and a militarist Germany preparing to clash in the Second Great War...

 

[Dachs]

So it's something with French colonialism and not British?...maybe another Carnatic War or something, although those were 1700s. Perhaps India or Africa.

 

[das]

No, India and Africa went as in OTL. Shouldn't be hard now...

 

[Insane_Panda]

Any more guesses? I am rather surprised Panda didn't notice it yet, I think he would have been quite excited by the prospects of a fascist France and a militarist Germany preparing to clash in the Second Great War...

Just noticed the PoD map, looks good, vveeerrry goood.....

I keep forgetting to check up on this thread, I only used it while doing azales NES for past maps for reference.

 

[ThomAnder]

Did Japan happen to lose the russojap war or something? How did Germany gain those lands from them...

 

[Insane_Panda]

Probably through the Great Oceanic War. Japan and the UK were alliesin the late 19th century.

 

[Dachs]

Algeria?

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EDIT: 1100th post! w00t!

 

[das]

Did Japan happen to lose the russojap war or something?

What's that "russojap" war you speak of?

How did Germany gain those lands from them...

Waaaaarmer...

Probably through the Great Oceanic War. Japan and the UK were alliesin the late 19th century.

Japan and UK were allies in late 1920s. That's why both of them got beaten up in it.

Algeria?

...French, like in OTL.

 

[North King]

Something dealing with a German kaiser in love with himself, the navy, and colonies, or a hyperactive Boxer rebellion?

 

[das]

a German kaiser in love with himself, the navy, and colonies,

Well, there was such a kaiser until he was overthrown near the end of WWI... But by the time he was, he and another person who really didn't want to make uncle Willie sad because of some itsy-bitsy huge chunk of China managed to alter history in a rude manner.

...so, yes.

 

[North King]

Well, there was such a kaiser until he was overthrown near the end of WWI... But by the time he was, he and another person who really didn't want to make uncle Willie sad because of some itsy-bitsy huge chunk of China managed to alter history in a rude manner.

...so, yes.

Well, that's pretty much what I thought... But what's the actual point of diversion?

 

[das]

Sadly, I don't remember the year of it, but cousin Willie really really wanted to have a naval base in China. He even sent a fleet to claim Port Arthur. In the same time, though, the Russians too claimed it, and, not wanting to anger cousin Nickie, Willie agreed to get a different base, at Tsingtao. Here, "Nickie" decided not to anger Willie, and let him have Port Arthur. Problem was, Japan too had a claim to it...

 

[North King]

Why did Germany not lose Port Arthur to the Japanese like Russia did? For some reason I can't see them fairing any better... The Russian military was quite modern and motivated, especially their navy, and yet they were resoundingly defeated by the Japanese (until the later days of the war, where they were just narrowly defeated... ), and I can't see the German navy crushing the Japanese on their home turf, while the opposite is all too easy to see.

 

[das]

Russian army was indeed nice, but its LEADERSHIP that matters here. It was led by a bunch of senile idiots. German army had a lot of those too, but less. And it was by a significant margin better off in some other regards, by the time it ended. Transportation was an issue, though. The German navy, for its part, WAS much better then the Russian one - after Willie built it up. Ofcourse, it COULD have ended in a Japanese victory, and that too would have been interesting, but that particular althist was dealing with the "Germans win" variant.

 

[North King]

Russian army was indeed nice, but its LEADERSHIP that matters here. It was led by a bunch of senile idiots. German army had a lot of those too, but less. And it was by a significant margin better off in some other regards, by the time it ended.

Well, true enough.

Transportation was an issue, though. The German navy, for its part, WAS much better then the Russian one - after Willie built it up. Ofcourse, it COULD have ended in a Japanese victory, and that too would have been interesting, but that particular althist was dealing with the "Germans win" variant.

I'm sorry, I can't see the Germans faring much better navywise than the Russians--plus, wouldn't they have to deal with the British?

 

[das]

I'm sorry, I can't see the Germans faring much better navywise than the Russians--plus, wouldn't they have to deal with the British?

Russians only barely persuaded the British to let their fleet pass. They even nearly went to war over it. I doubt Germany would fare much worse.

The Japanese in OTL not only had a set of advantages (and STILL nearly lost!). They also got insanely lucky. I think the polar bears were helping them. I mean, come on, in the first week of the war the Russian flagship, one of their better ships, including their best admiral AND a very good painter, hit a sea mine and sunk.

Polar bears aside, what are the chances of the same happening in a war with different circumstances? Add to that the fact that German fleet, being a newer one, was by definition a more modern one.

Not to mention that Germany, politically, was a whole deal more stable then Russia.

The naval victory for Germans was not very easy, ofcourse. Indeed, on the sea, all things considered, it was a draw strategically (tactical victory, though). But financially, Japan was exhausted (completely OTL), and it also was losing the war on the land (Russians nearly won in OTL, but their commander was overcautious and decided against launching an attack that could have easily routed the Japanese army).