Am I an evangelical? If not, what am I?

[Perfection]

Honestly, I don't really know for sure. It is that which helps me and guides me in my faith, helps me to understand scripture, and so forth. Admittedly, it's always confused me a bit.


Absolutely not. Angels, if you want to view things in a hierarchial fashion, are above humans here on earth, but below humans in heaven. Christ is the Son of God, not a creation of God. Well, I guess in one sense he's a creation, but I don't want to get that philosophical about it. He's God's son.

Well what sperates him from humans?

 

[blackheart]

Actually, I'd have to say Homie should and must have every right to say that if he wants. As long as he doesn't fry me on a spit over an open flame for disagreeing with him, I'm fine with him thinking that.

Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment that you pronounce you will be judged, and the measure you give will be the measure you get. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, "Let me take the speck out of your eye," when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.

- Matthew 7.1-5

 

[bhsup]

Well what sperates him from humans?

I don't even know where to begin to answer that. I'm not trying to be evasive, but you're basically asking me to explain the existence of Christ, which I can no more readily do than I can the existence of God.

 

[Perfection]

I don't even know where to begin to answer that. I'm not trying to be evasive, but you're basically asking me to explain the existence of Christ, which I can no more readily do than I can the existence of God.

Well I can't judge your Christianness unless you tell me about your relationship with Christ.

 

[bhsup]

Well I can't judge your Christianness unless you tell me about your relationship with Christ.

In my first post.

REGARDING CHRIST
He is our savior, king, messiah, ruler, blood sacrifice before God, and the Son of God. He is NOT God, that much is obvious via his own words in the New Testament. He is the only way to God, again by his own words, and all those who reject him are lost....
HOWEVER, AND THIS IS A HUGE HOWEVER...
Only God truly knows the heart of a man, and only God can judge a man insofar as to whether he shall be granted into the Kingdom of Heaven. That man goes against man and kills one another in the name of God because they believe differently is in my mind an abomination before God. It's that "I stand at the door and knock..." thing.

 

[Perfection]

I'm not seeing how that clarifies the situation much.

Okay, here's a question.

Was Jesus a man?

 

[bhsup]

For a brief period of his long existence, yes he was a man.

EDIT: By the way, I'm hitting the sack in about 20 minutes, so if I don't answer something tonight, I'll try to tomorrow night. Mind you, I excel at forgetting that I have posts which need tending to, so if I forget tomorrow night, just PM me and tell me to get my act together and respond.

 

[Shaihulud]

It is possible to be a fundamentalist without being evangelical. All evangelist are fundamentalist, but not all fundamentalist are evangelical.

 

[Homie]

Actually, I'd have to say Homie should and must have every right to say that if he wants. As long as he doesn't fry me on a spit over an open flame for disagreeing with him, I'm fine with him thinking that.

Don't worry, you won't be fried. But I'm not saying you are unitarian and not Christian to be mean and condescending, it is just that you asked our opinion of what you were, stating your beliefs. And it is not that it is "my thinking", it is such that technically you are not a Christian if you do not accept the trinity, which is probably THE single greatest identifier of a Christian.

Reading the whole Bible I can definately see that you would come to the conclusion that you have conserning Christ, I can see many good points and scripture passages that would suggest it. Nonetheless, technically you are not a Christian, I am not talking about your salvation or if you are good/bad, I am simply stating what defines a Christian traditionally.

And thanks black heart, for always trying to make me look like the bad guy.

 

[Homie]

Well I can't judge your Christianness unless you tell me about your relationship with Christ.

Perfection has a point here Agent.

 

[bhsup]

It is possible to be a fundamentalist without being evangelical. All evangelist are fundamentalist, but not all fundamentalist are evangelical.

So am I a fundamentalist then?

Perfection has a point here Agent.

I'm honestly trying to answer, but I am not grasping just what he is wanting to know.
My relationship with Christ? That of a subject to a King, that of one who accepts the blood sacrifice Christ made so that I may be forgiven of my sins in the eyes of his father, God.

 

[Homie]

It is possible to be a fundamentalist without being evangelical. All evangelist are fundamentalist, but not all fundamentalist are evangelical.

Very constructive.

(You guys can't tell, but I'm rolling my eyes big time right now.)

 

[blackheart]

And thanks black heart, for always trying to make me look like the bad guy.

Bad and good are relative to your actions and speech.

 

[Homie]

Deep stuff, I'll have to write that down.

 

[Homie]

Agent, I edited post number 29, I forgot to put a "not" in there, which makes all the difference, without it I am essentially saying the opposite of what I mean.

 

[.Shane.]

Why do you care if you're a stereotype or not? You're gonna let other people tell you what you are?

Think for yourself, not about yourself.

 

[blackheart]

Deep stuff, I'll have to write that down.

Let me explain myself then. Good and bad are relative to the observer. If you deem someone's words to be bad, then it is bad to you. In your case, you deemed what I said about you to be bad, so you think that your actions or bad or recognize that at least I perceive your words to be "bad". In either case, you're recognizing something.

 

[Sahkuhnder]

So am I a fundamentalist then?

REGARDING THE BIBLE
It is the divinely inspired/guided/directed/whatever word of God, and if The Bible claims some event happened, then it happened.

I would have to say from this part of your original statement that the answer to the top question would be yes.

 

[Boris Godunov]

Should that be taught in schools? Absolutely not, but neither should it be taught that the earth was made and evolution occured randomly with no intervention. Stick to the KNOWN facts, thank you kindly.

You're welcome to believe what you like, more power to you. But please keep you erroneous and unfounded notion of what is and isn't "known fact" out of our schools. And thank YOU kindly.

 

[aneeshm]

That is too classic. You're not one to judge others, especially to tell them that they're not a Christian.

If he has a certain definition of Christianity , based on its holy books , and he finds that some person does not fit that definition , then he has the authority to tell that person that according to that definition , the other person is not a Christian . I see nothing contradictory in that . Do you ?