Ancient Illyria and Ethnic Albania as Playable Civilizations!

[Wei-Yan]

Shqype is the knight in Albanian UU meant to be their captian? he always seems to get killed first.........

 

[Aranor]

Shqype is the knight in Albanian UU meant to be their captian? he always seems to get killed first.........

Yes he is supposed to be a captain. And I found this too in my testing of the unit, during beta testing for Shqype, but all i have to say about this is h3h3h3h3 that will learn him for leading from the front! lol

But in all seriousness this is a great mod Shqype!! Although I am biased alittle

 

[Shqype]

Flanking 1 gives gives an extra 10% withdrawal chance, not 20%, payer1 fanatic. But I will look to making it more balanced.

 

[deo]

I could give my opinion about the UU's but in my games, the first war usualy starts in the industrial era because im not a warmonger, i leave this to the experts .

 

[Shqype]

I got my conquistador information from here:

Unique unit for Spain; Replaces Knight
2 first strikes
Immune to first strikes
+50% vs. Melee Units

http://www.civfanatics.com/civ4/info/units/

If the Conquistador doesn't get 2 first strikes, then you are right about this unit being overpowered.

PS- Archduke Otto, thanks alot, that does mean very good, and I'm happy you like it

 

[player1 fanatic]

Yes I know. So it is 25% base and 10% from Flank I?

But with barracks there is extra 20% from Flank II and FS immunity. So at the end it's 55% withdraw.

 

[Shqype]

It should be 35% withdrawal with +10 from Flank 1, making it 45%, with the second promotion it would be 65%. It may make it overpowered, but these units were primarily hit-and-run units, which is why I gave them a high withdrawal chance. Same thing with speed, they were the fastest units available and had to travel quickly up and down Albania to predict where the Sultan's army was going to strike next.

Right now I'm thinking about removing the Flanking 1 promotion. How does that sound?

 

[player1 fanatic]

I got my conquistador information from here:

http://www.civfanatics.com/civ4/info/units/

If the Conquistador doesn't get 2 first strikes, then you are right about this unit being overpowered.

And I got my info from Civilopedia...

In comparasion Japan Samurai have 2 First Strikes only and can't be build with Copper (like other Maceman).

And Navy Seals have 1-2First strikes and March.

My impression is that 25% extra withdraw plus 1 FS is decent upgrade for an UU. I don't see removing immunity to is as needed, since such unit will be anyway upgraded with flanking (to increase potency of withdraw).

 

[Shqype]

I'll make changes tonight when I return from work. And I'll have to put someone from Serbia in my credits portion of the readme.txt for an Albanian mod,

 

[Tunch Khan]

Thanks for the info on the cities. One question: Is it because of Bitola/Manastir's contemporary ethnic division why you haven't included it? Or was it for not pouring gasoline on open wounds? Afterall, it used to be the second largest city of Roumelia after Salonika, which happened to be founded by Illyrians.

 

[Shqype]

City list has been modified

 

[Tunch Khan]

Not a big deal. Some add it up to the Greater Albania and some don't. It's just one more highly contested city in the Balkans, claimed by all.

 

[Shqype]

As far as I know Greater Albania doesn't exist, nor do I want such a thing. I just want Ethnic Albania.

Do you have any other comments? Our friend TomGruda created much of the music, what do you think about it? How the menu music, Vallja Rugoves?

 

[Shqype]

Regarding UU balance, thanks to player1 fanatic's suggestions, I have removed the Flanking 1 promotion on the Kalorse and have reduced the withdrawal probably from 35% to 25%. The 100 cost (instead of 90), is still in effect. I brought it down to 2 movement and gave it "ignores terrain movement costs" instead, since they travelled very quickly through the hilly, mountainous, foresty terrain of Albania to meet the Turkish armies. The revised stats of the Kalorse:

-10 strength, 2 movement, ignores terrain movement costs, 1 first strike, doesn't recieve defensive bonuses, 25% withdrawal chance, 100 cost

Also, the city "Manastiri" is added to Albania. The city "Manastir" is added to Illyria. Now reading up on it, I can't believe I overlooked this addition. It is fairly important in Albanian history. Thanks, Tunch Khan.

These changes are in the new, uploaded version, to be found in the second post on the first page of this thread. Upload pending acceptance at 3D Downloads, to be up soon!

 

[Biki]

hi shqype where i can download the Illyrian and ethnic Albania Mod? i tried in the link u put there but not working

 

[Shqype]

The link is now fixed, and the file has been uploaded to 3D Downloads. It is now available on the second post.

Welcome to the Forums Biki, I hope you enjoy your stay here, and I really hope you like the mod! Please post back here with your experience and any suggestions you may have

This new version replaces the old version, so for those having the old version, please delete the former MOD folder and replace it with the new one!

 

[Shqype]

Another screenshot:

 

[Wei-Yan]

okay ive played this new version as the Albianians but this time it was the Incas that i had to attack the Albianian UU is very good for hit and run attacks like you said and the Incas lost 3 cites to them and some catapults and macemen! heh the captians still got killed first lol

 

[Shqype]

Yes, as the first model he will always be the first to go.

They should be good at hit-and-run, because that's the type of unit they are! I'll provide some more information on that later

 

[Biki]

great job shqype,wonderful mod,you may put some of this city in ethnic albania=
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_PRIZRENI</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_TIRANA</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_PRISHTINA</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_DURRESI</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_SHKODRA</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_PEJA</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_VLORA</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_GJIROKASTRA</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_GJAKOVA</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_ELBASANI</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_SHKUPI</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_TETOVA</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_GJILANI</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_KORQA</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_FERIZAJI</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_KAQANIKU</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_BERATI</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_SARANDA</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_FIERI</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_MITROVICA</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_TEPELENA</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_STRUGA</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_MANASTIRI</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_KRUJA</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_KAVAJA</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_LEZHA</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_POGRADECI</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_KUKESI</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_DELVINA</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_KERQOVA</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_KUMANOVA</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_ULPIANA</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_VICIANUMI</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_THERANDA</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_DARDANORUM</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_ALBANOPOLI</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_OHRI</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_PRESHEVA</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_TROPOJA</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_ISTOGU</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_VUSHTRRIA</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_SKENDERAJ</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_RAHOVECI</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_GOSTIVARI</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_DIBRA</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_VITIA</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_SHARRI</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_LUSHNJA</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_BURRELI</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_KOPLIKU</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_PUKA</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_LESKOVIKU</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_RRESHENI</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_LAQI</City>
<City>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_ULQINI
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