Brancaleone
Warlord
Mrdie said:And Sweden.
And Brazil.
Announcement: "Civ Gold" civilization pack
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And Brazil.
We are looking ahead to adding other civs. The FAQ addresses this - it will be available with the final version soon.
The short story is that we needed to cap the number of civs to be sure to organize ourselves properly. If this release is well received, then we can look at expanding.
For the record, Israel, Brazil and Sweden haven't been forgotten.
The short story is that we needed to cap the number of civs to be sure to organize ourselves properly. If this release is well received, then we can look at expanding.
For the record, Israel, Brazil and Sweden haven't been forgotten.
Arkaeyn
King
Shqype said:
While it's true that the Byzantines were kind of the Greek wing of the Roman empire, they aren't well-represented in Civ, I find. If you examine their timeline, they had a major empire from roughly 200 CE until 1450 or so. That's not just a long time, that's probably the longest-running empire in human history.
As for having similar locations and cultures but different Civs, Civ 4 kind of does, with Kublai Khan, who was as much Emperor of China in the Yuan Dynasty was he was a Mongol. There's also the Americans, who came from displaced English. The Byzantines are also seriously lacking in units and leaders - if you added Constantine or Justinian to the Roman leaders, or made the Roman unique unit Cataphracts or Dromons, maybe.
Sevo, I liked the Carib music too - maybe someone should put together a non-European music mod. Bach and Beethoven are cool and all, but let's get some steel drums!
Shqype
Shqyptar
And it can be argued that those 2 leaders were (ethnically) Illyrians, which are represented by the Albanians in this mod.
The Byzantine Empire did last a long time, but near its end it wasn't an "empire" anymore. In 1453 Constantinople fell, but that's pretty much all that was left of the Byzantine Empire... there wasn't an "empire" but a Despotate of Morea to the south, an Albania and a Bulgaria to the west, an Ottoman presence to the east, etc. Out of curiosity, when did the Byzantine Empire begin its decline, and what territory was it made up of?
Arkaeyn
King
Well...the "ethnic" makeup of particular leaders opens up a whole can of worms. Arab leader Saladin, for example, is a Kurd. Alexander is Macedonian more than Greek - and speaking of Greeks, I'm very happy that Cleopatra is gone. Having the Albanians is certainly an interesting choice.
I don't know much about the fall of the Byzantines, as most of my knowledge comes from a book I read about their history up to 800. Here's Wikipedia: Fall of the Byzantine Empire
Wikipedia places its decline around the death of Manuel I Comnenus, who controlled Greece, much of Turkey, Hungary, and invaded Italy and Egypt. Hey - good old Wikipedia has a map, too!
I don't know much about the fall of the Byzantines, as most of my knowledge comes from a book I read about their history up to 800. Here's Wikipedia: Fall of the Byzantine Empire
Wikipedia places its decline around the death of Manuel I Comnenus, who controlled Greece, much of Turkey, Hungary, and invaded Italy and Egypt. Hey - good old Wikipedia has a map, too!
DonStamos
Mobster Inc©
I tend to view Constantine, Justinian, Theodora, etc as Byzantine rulers. As for a Unique Unit, there is the Varangian Guard and Pechenegs (cavalry archers)
Drogear
Prince
"Scheduled Release Date: Tuesday, April 4 2006 (...or earlier if we can!)"
Is this ETA still valid? I keep lurking these forums for any updates... (I’m at work so there isn’t much more to do, at least nothing important)
Having 3 different updates all expecting to arrive soon is very promising Civ4 Gold, Sevos 3.0 (that I recon is same as gold but with game play changes), and Thamis 1.7 version.
Is this ETA still valid? I keep lurking these forums for any updates... (I’m at work so there isn’t much more to do, at least nothing important)
Having 3 different updates all expecting to arrive soon is very promising Civ4 Gold, Sevos 3.0 (that I recon is same as gold but with game play changes), and Thamis 1.7 version.
Drogear said:
The Winged Hussars were the elite heavy polish cavalry, unmatched by any other cavalry till the end of 17th century. They were very expenisve to equip and the traing (both of ppl and horses) took a lot of time, so they were not many in numbers.. Their strenght was in their tactics (winged hussars played a role of breaking enemys ranks, just like tanks in the 20th century). Here are some refrences you migh find interesting :]
http://www.answers.com/topic/battle-of-kircholm
http://www.answers.com/Battle of kluszyn
http://www.answers.com/topic/battle-of-Vienna
cheers
Drogear
Prince
nice links, but as a swede is not fun to read about swedish military failures (Poland-Sweden war 1600-1611), I guess we lost due to lack of angel costumes! j/k 
dont flame me, could´t resist I have the outmost respect for the Polish, and the hussars.
dont flame me, could´t resist I have the outmost respect for the Polish, and the hussars.yap, you lost, coz we catholics like to go to war dressed up like angels seriously, the wings were just a small addition to the "winged hussars" equipment. They were recognized because of them and they were the symbol of the soldiers high social status (they recruited from rich nobles). There are 2 main versions as of why they wore them in battle:
1. as someone mentioned earlyier it helped to prevent tatar raiders to catch a hussar on a rope
2. the feathers on the wings made a laud noise while the hussars were charging at the enemy, the noise was supose scare enemys horses and soliders (shock tactics effect similiar to the ju-87 stuka bombers sirens)
cheers
seriously, the wings were just a small addition to the "winged hussars" equipment. They were recognized because of them and they were the symbol of the soldiers high social status (they recruited from rich nobles). There are 2 main versions as of why they wore them in battle:1. as someone mentioned earlyier it helped to prevent tatar raiders to catch a hussar on a rope
2. the feathers on the wings made a laud noise while the hussars were charging at the enemy, the noise was supose scare enemys horses and soliders (shock tactics effect similiar to the ju-87 stuka bombers sirens)
cheers
Crazy Polish people...
(I have a Polish girlfriend; mentioned this to her, and of COURSE she knew about it. The amount of pure book knowledge they have to cram in Lyceum (kinda highschool) is intimidating. But still, riding to war with wings... crazy Polish people.)
(I have a Polish girlfriend; mentioned this to her, and of COURSE she knew about it. The amount of pure book knowledge they have to cram in Lyceum (kinda highschool) is intimidating. But still, riding to war with wings... crazy Polish people.)
Aaaaarghhhh 
Can't wait until this comes out. I decided to try this out and stopped playing my previous game a couple of days ago. have to blend it in with my own mod which mainly consists of small xml tweaks though. Now it seems I'm just wandering back and forth from my PC to see if its out yet.
Maybe I should go read a book instead
Anyways - sounds like a great mod guys!!
\Skodkim
Can't wait until this comes out. I decided to try this out and stopped playing my previous game a couple of days ago. have to blend it in with my own mod which mainly consists of small xml tweaks though. Now it seems I'm just wandering back and forth from my PC to see if its out yet.
Maybe I should go read a book instead
Anyways - sounds like a great mod guys!!
\Skodkim
Drogear said:
Yup. But look for it closer to 5:00pm EDT. Shqype is currently doing final testing as we speak, and I'm going to head home at lunch to give a last look-over and prepare some notes.
Civ Gold is the new civilizations collection.
Sevo's Fusion is a variety of changes that will include Civ Gold in 3.0
DonStamos
Mobster Inc©
I'm waiting eagerly to download this mod:-x
Shqype
Shqyptar
The download is just about ready.
