pre-release info New Civ Game Guide: Meiji Japan

[Zaarin]

Could have used a hot-air balloon, at least.

Those are only for Antiquity and Exploration civs.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

Those are only for Antiquity and Exploration civs.

Maybe they can include a formation of silvery Zeros

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

Those are only for Antiquity and Exploration civs.

Didn't realize that Russia wasn't Modern.

 

[Zaarin]

Didn't realize that Russia wasn't Modern.

Welllll...that's what the Bolsheviks say.

 

[TheGhostEnthusiast]

I feel like most of the artworks we’ve seen have skewed towards the peaceful?

The only ones I would describe as even vaguely warlike are America, France, Ming and Chola.

I don't need it to be an actual scene of a battle, just to have some visual display of proximity to conflict being an important part of the culture. The warlike Rome has a legionnaire wandering the streets, the diplomatic/defensive Han nobles have an escort of soldiers, guards wander the militaristic/defensive Norman castle, the empire conquering Mongolian horsemen in a vast field could be riding to a battle or just enjoying Pax Mongolica, the war-focused Buganda has a fleet of canoes that might be headed to a raid. If the vibe is that of a militarized society, the art should match, just as we get the Cultural/Scientific Abbasids in the middle of a discussion, the Cultural Axumites and Greeks with grand structures, Economic Songhai and Egypt with a trade ship and merchants, and Expansionist Hawai'i welcoming home a fleet of settlers.

 

[8housesofelixir]

FYI, for the average Japanese, the visual imagination for "Modernization of Japan in Meiji Era" probably looks like this:

(This part of the railway still exists today, around the Yatsuyama Bridge near the Shinagawa station - just that all the coastlines you can see in this picture, up to the Tokyo Bay fortresses in the background, are now entirely reclaimed into artificial islands.)

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

I don't need it to be an actual scene of a battle, just to have some visual display of proximity to conflict being an important part of the culture. The warlike Rome has a legionnaire wandering the streets, the diplomatic/defensive Han nobles have an escort of soldiers, guards wander the militaristic/defensive Norman castle, the empire conquering Mongolian horsemen in a vast field could be riding to a battle or just enjoying Pax Mongolica, the war-focused Buganda has a fleet of canoes that might be headed to a raid. If the vibe is that of a militarized society, the art should match, just as we get the Cultural/Scientific Abbasids in the middle of a discussion, the Cultural Axumites and Greeks with grand structures, Economic Songhai and Egypt with a trade ship and merchants, and Expansionist Hawai'i welcoming home a fleet of settlers.

Maybe they are just saving the clashing of samurai clans for Edo Japan?
I'd expect it to be militaristic/cultural. I just wish the industrial/scientific part was more emphasized, considering that wouldn't coincide with other ages of Japan.

 

[TheGhostEnthusiast]

FYI, for the average Japanese, the visual imagination for "Modernization of Japan in Meiji Era" probably looks like this:

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(This part of the railway still exists today, around the Yatsuyama Bridge near the Shinagawa station - just that all the coastlines you can see in this picture, up to the Tokyo Bay fortresses in the background, are now entirely reclaimed into artificial islands.)

Honestly, just a translation of this picture into the Civ VII artstyle would have been perfect, 10/10, no notes.

 

[Phrozen]

Ginza Bricktown, Old Shimbashi Station, or Tokyo Station would of worked better as a background I think.

 

[Bootstrapbilly]

I like Himiko, but seeing this Japan and the possibility of an Exploration era Edo/Sengoku Japan in the future (would love an early Jomon/Kofun too!) really makes me think someone like Ryoma Sakamoto would have been perfect as a leader.

 

[PorkBean]

Maybe they are just saving the clashing of samurai clans for Edo Japan?

Edo Period was when they explicitly stopped clashing, although it does seem like "Edo Japan" is coming based on the Meiji intro text. It really shouldn't be a militaristic civ since it represents 250 years of near-unbroken peace, but I don't see them not including Samurai as a unit. Maybe it could be the unique civilian this time?

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

It really shouldn't be a militaristic civ since it represents 250 years of near-unbroken peace, but I don't see them not including Samurai as a unit. Maybe it could be the unique civilian this time?

Well, it was a militaristic state. I suppose economic could also work considering they experienced rapid economic growth and the rise of a merchant class.
I agree that the Samurai should come back, though I'm not entirely sure whether it should be a military unit or civilian. If military the civilian unit could be a Daimyo, or even a Shinobi.

 

[Evolena]

Edo Period was when they explicitly stopped clashing, although it does seem like "Edo Japan" is coming based on the Meiji intro text. It really shouldn't be a militaristic civ since it represents 250 years of near-unbroken peace, but I don't see them not including Samurai as a unit. Maybe it could be the unique civilian this time?

There are a lot of things that are mentionned in the descriptions. I doubt that all of those that could be a civ will be new civs, even one day in 10 years: