Anyone else feel... cheated?

[Mods]

OP doesn't understand the plot of Civ games.
A race of highly advanced and extremely bored aliens travelled through time, kidnapping famous Earth leaders. Once they collected enough, they made them immortal and placed them on random Earth-like planets, forcing them to pit their wits against each other in millenia-long competitions to see who is the best.

tl;dr: Civ is Quake 3 but with politicians

 

[Babri]

I think it is a very nice feature & can help in role playing. So for example you don't know much about Gandhi, you start a game & u come to know that he was a peacuful leader, a pacifist etc & then when u play the game u avoid war & try to win through culture. If you don't like it then either switch off your speakers or find workaround to skip that splash screen.

 

[Ravellion]

I love the opening screens! So no, I don't feel cheated.

 

[wcbarney]

...How you can manage to hate any dialog read by arguably one of the biggest still alive science fiction actors is beyond me, but I certainly don't feel cheated.

What?! You had your dialog read by William Shatner? Mine were read by some old dude who has trouble breathing.

...I loved in civ 4 how Nimoy gave that epic speech about the earth forming, the dawn of civilization and all that jazz.

Oh, man! Now I do feel cheated. C'mon, Furycrab; who is it??? William Shatner or Leonard Nemoy or ... who, who??

 

[The_Quasar]

I really like the opening screens, and like the reading of them. I've learned quite a bit about some of the lesser known ones that I wouldn't have, had they not been there. It's even prompted me to seek further knowledge of them.

If I had my way, they would be expanded to give even more information.

Thank you Fraxis for an interesting feature! More of the same, please!

 

[Karl_Rove]

If there's something based on your complaint that is worth complaining about, it's the fact that Jesus is born in every game and the calendars all bend around the date.

This one actually bugs me. I feel like I'm in some cheesy time-traveling comedy movie, you know: where the main character is comically ignorant of his surrounds but becomes suspicious, and then asks what year it is. Then the incredulous person he's talking to says "It's 250 BC, duh"

I can ignore as it isn't a big part of the game and there really isn't a better way of dating the turns (turn 161 is just boring). But really, at least they could change it to 250 BCE

 

[pennjersey83]

No, I could care less about the intro screen and do not feel cheated.

 

[wcbarney]

This one actually bugs me. I feel like I'm in some cheesy time-traveling comedy movie, you know: where the main character is comically ignorant of his surrounds but becomes suspicious, and then asks what year it is. Then the incredulous person he's talking to says "It's 250 BC, duh"

I can ignore as it isn't a big part of the game and there really isn't a better way of dating the turns (turn 161 is just boring). But really, at least they could change it to 250 BCE

C'mon! I'm not even religious, although I was baptized a Christian all those years ago. Yet it bugs me when I read in novels and see in TV documentaries that the historical/cultural year reckonings of B.C. ("Before Christ") and A.D. ("Anno Domini" = "In the Year of Our Lord") are replaced with the secular B.C.E. ("Before the Common Era") and C.E. ("Common Era.")

Maybe you should start a thread on the "Off Topic" sub-forum; after all, there is a thread there entitled "Is the word "homophobe" a leftist conspiracy?"

 

[Bibor]

I agree that the "will you pick up the reins of this country" part is rather badly implemented. Otherwise, I couldn't care less about intro screens either. on the AD/BC issue... well... CE/BCE for me. I believe in Carl Sagan

 

[wcbarney]

... on the AD/BC issue... well... CE/BCE for me. I believe in Carl Sagan

Yes, I've attended a couple of Carl Sagan lectures -- before December 1996 of course, so I guess my age is really showing! I do admire Dr. Sagan immensely. His on-stage answer to the inevitable question, "Do you believe in God?" was spot-on: To paraphrase - If you mean is God a supernatural being who sits up in heaven and worries when every sparrow falls, then no. Of course, the rest of the answer is the essence of Dr. Sagan's belief -- that the cosmos itself, with all the "universal laws" that we mere humans have so far discovered, could be imagined as a "supreme intelligence" that some might call God.

That said, I still much prefer AD/BC to CE/BCE. Thoughts of left-wing conspiracies to remove Christmastime manger scenes from public places and images of the Ten Commandments from courthouses come to mind.

 

[Karl_Rove]

It bugs me in-game because on turn X (the same turn X) in every single game, Jesus is born and everyone dates their calendars to match. All cultures do this, and it is so predictable that people know ahead of time when he will be born (and thus, when to switch from BC to AD). A minor gripe, but immersion breaking nonetheless.

It bugs me in real life for reasons that will get this thread locked if I go on

BTW, anyone who uses the word 'conspiracy' that much deserves the tinfoil hat that they wear (light-hearted joke intended)

 

[Sonereal]

She did not start the Cultural Revolution; about a thousand years too early for that.

I had Mao in there originally. He must've fell out of my post when I was typing it.

Maybe I'm reading too much into Sonereal's response. It seemed like the "it's just fluff, why do you care" put-down was being trotted out again. Maybe you're right and that's not what he meant.

It's not a put down. It's just fluff, so why do you care? The AD/BC thing is more worthy of "roleplay complaining" than a talking title card.

 

[RD-BH]

The leader intros are fingernails on a chalkboard.
They may not affect gameplay, but they definitely affect my mood.
... (not a pleasant way to start a game)
I long ago turned off Civ5 audio and leave the room while the map loads.
I brew some tea, put on some classical music, then click begin.
More relaxing than listening to the vainglorious prattle of the intros.

 

[EasyBee]

Coming next week:

Rofl

On the other hand, maybe we are not considering the legitimacy of the complaint. After all, turning the volume off for a moment is at least as hard as letting an issue of this magnitude go...

I think the chronic malcontents are fretting that they are about to run out of real things to complain about post-patch.

 

[EasyBee]

I really like the opening screens, and like the reading of them. I've learned quite a bit about some of the lesser known ones that I wouldn't have, had they not been there. It's even prompted me to seek further knowledge of them.

If I had my way, they would be expanded to give even more information.

Thank you Fraxis for an interesting feature! More of the same, please!

This.

Civ has and continues to be an inspiration for further learning.

 

[Ranos]

I am simply ranting about how unnecessary it was, and how I would had preferred a splash screen, or one of those "the world was created such and such". I am ranting because it goes against civilization tradition. Unique units are different, because they're not telling me exactly what I should be doing, or who I am . Sorry if you view it as annoying, just wanted to bring it up

I made it this far before I had to respond.

The intro screen is not telling you what you have to do. It is giving you a history of the leader you have chosen to play. Now yes it does say things about reaching your former glory or whatever. While I think the phrasing could be different it is basically just say, "Can you achieve what this historical leader achieved?" Or maybe, "Can you take this civilization to where this famous leader took it?"

In no way is it telling you what you should do other than doing the best you can or beating the other civs in the world. Isn't that what you are trying to do anyway?

 

[logintime]

I hate hate hate the intro screens. Leave aside the fact that, like the intro movie that is incredibly hard to skip, they're obviously designed to kill time while the game loads... they also all sound like a drunken old fool trying to suck up to you. Every time I hear him say "Oooooooh, Great Ramses.." I just want to throttle him.

Sorry, /rant.

 

[mtrein]

With so much serious stuff to hate, is that what you hate about it?

My list is really huge I'm afraid

 

[Wyte_Majik]

IMO-
Russia- Leader Stalin (Or Lenin or Vlad the Impaler)
China- Mao Zedong
Japan- Some famous samurai
Germany- Hitler (with all the hate and shizz, he really deserves it. Building the worlds strongest army whilst ur country is deep down swimming in recession takes some skills)
Barbarian Leader - Bin Laden (just to take the piss)

 

[need my speed]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlad_III_the_Impaler

As you can see, he wasn't a Russian.