Anything Missed

[Grey Randall]

Don't know if this has been covered yet, but anyone miss elements from Civ and Civ II?


I miss being able to rename cities after you conquer them, or changing the name of your civilization's leader.

I'd rather be Henry V than Elizabeth... Although she is my favorite Monarch of all time!

I miss bribing enemy units and cities!

 

[dojoboy]

The ability to cause civil war within a rival civ, by capturing its capital.

 

[Txurce]

Civil war is by far the aspect I miss the most. The relative meaninglessness of losing one's capital is definitely a step back.

I did like renaming cities, and had set up my game so that I was the Basques, with fifty city names all loaded and ready to go. I think we'll be able to rename cities with the editor, as I've noticed Cracker did this in the Japan campaign that Dojoboy cited.

And how about that Cracker guy?

 

[Grey Randall]

Well, yeah, you can rename the cities with the editor, as well as the leader names, but still it comes as a "default" when you play the scenarios edited.

I liked when I picked the Mongols, I could be Ghenghis Khan... or I could switch the name to Kubilai, Ogedei, Mongke, Yelu Chutsei, Temujin, or Boroghul Khara if I so chose.

I also liked playing that whole Istanbul/Constantinople deal with conquered city. Lahore would become "Burkun Kaldun"... Berlin would fall and get renamed to "Lollipopland" Paris would get stomped all over and suddenly find its name changed to Florrin and London would suddenly become Guilder.

I always thought that losing one's capital causing civil war was a bit wrong anyway. Yes, I believe it would throw a country into a state of Anarchy for a while, but I also think losing your capital would make your opponent all that much more ready for your blood. Now all that happens is they shrug and make the next city their capital.... or they have some worker and settler Waaaaaaaaay off in the boonies that you didn't know about build a new capital.

Hmmm... Wonder if I should do a Spanish scenario.. Basques, Moors, Catalans, Portuguese and Spaniards... What do you think, Txurce?

 

[ejday]

Originally posted by Grey Randall
...Paris would get stomped all over and suddenly find its name changed to Florrin and London would suddenly become Guilder...

Not renaming cities? I don't think it means what you think it means.
Try ctrl-clicking on the city. Not only can you rename it, you can change or hurry production, see what units are there and activate them.

 

[Grey Randall]

Remind me to pound the living daylights out of my 13 year old for throwing out all of my game boxes. I kept the manuals in there.

Thanks ejday, been flying without the manual ever since he did that. I miss it asking me if I wanted to change the city's name when I conquered it, how's that....

 

[ejday]

Originally posted by Grey Randall
...I kept the manuals in there...

Ouch. Yeah, if I were junior, I'd be headed for the hills.

Fortunately, I still have my manual, so if you have any other questions, don't hesitate to ask.

Here's one that wasn't in the manual anyway (for anybody that skimmed the read-me in the patches):
• Okay, you may already know this part (it was in the manual): instead of mouse-clicking on the move symbol (the little pointing arrow) to move a single unit, you can just keyboard-shortcut "g" for the same effect.
• The handy-dandy patch addition is another keyboard shortcut: to move all of the units of the same kind that are stacked on a particular square, use "j". Beats the heck out of moving those 25 warriors (or 8 workers) one at a time...

 

[Txurce]

Grey, that sounds like a super scenario. I only played the two that came with Civ2.

 

[dojoboy]

Originally posted by Grey Randall


I always thought that losing one's capital causing civil war was a bit wrong anyway. Yes, I believe it would throw a country into a state of Anarchy for a while, but I also think losing your capital would make your opponent all that much more ready for your blood. Now all that happens is they shrug and make the next city their capital.... or they have some worker and settler Waaaaaaaaay off in the boonies that you didn't know about build a new capital.

It would make me fight w/ a vengence; however, In WWI, and to some extent in WWII, weren't revolutionary elements brewing in Germany? Socialist in WWI and republic in WWII, I think. Of course, it wasn't pending on the fall of Berlin.

 

[sirromdivad]

Originally posted by ejday

Not renaming cities? I don't think it means what you think it means.
Try ctrl-clicking on the city. Not only can you rename it, you can change or hurry production, see what units are there and activate them.

Plus, if you want a one-click option for changing production in a city, I think it's shift-control-click will give you a menu with all possible build-items, right on the main screen.

I was so happy when I stumbled onto that one!

-dem

 

[ejday]

Just looking at unit wish lists and it hit me: didn't engineers in Civ2 have 2 moves? I miss that. Something to do think about: maybe modifying workers when the player makes it into the modern era.