Apocalyptic Disasters

[MSTK]

There have been many apocalyptic disasters in the past, including Supervolcanos, meteors, and the young theory of the Verneshot. While we have not been hit by any yet, pessimistic scientists agree that it is only a matter of luck. In fact, some have even struck during recorded history, although none have the magnitude of an apocalyptic disaster.

So, here is a new unvictory condition: Apocalyptic Disaster. You are just playing your game, like usual, and then all of a sudden:

A giant meteor has hit the globe and everyone died.
You have suffered an embarrasing defeat.
Play time: XX hours and XX minutes.​

It should be completely random, of course, like all things in life are.

 

[Yuri2356]

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I'm all for adding the apocolypse to Civ, but to have it just hit out of the blue? There should be some for of advance warning for when a dissaster will have a chance of hitting soon (Ie the meteor is coming, but they're not sure if it's a hit or miss) it could even be something crazy in the ancient times like:
"Our mystics have seen a number of strange omens in the past year, they fear the worst..."

 

[Mewtarthio]

I think he's being sarcastic. Out of the Rubble wouldn't be very interesting if that evil sword got blown to Pluto by a volcano, now would it?

 

[MSTK]

What does that have to do with anything?

 

[North King]

I think this would be interesting, but I agree that there should be advanced warning. I also think there should be civil disorder when an asteriod is sighted, in the early times because they are panicking that the omens have foretold the end, in the modern age because they are panicking because they think it will hit us and it will be the end.

 

[Haradrim]

I'm all for natural disasters, but no apocalyptic events. At most nuclear winter. Nothing short of crushing my monitor would come from an asteroid wiping out your first demigod, world-dominating empire.

 

[The Omega]

This is a wonderful idea! Just imagine: It's the first turn, and you've jsut settled your first city when "Agiant meteor hit the earth and everyone died!"
Genius!

 

[Quentin]

How about instead of killing everyone it kills something like 99% of the world population? The smaller civs might be totally crushed and the bigger ones would be severely crippled. Of course all the civ leaders would surprisingly still be alive...

 

[thestonesfan]

For the sake of bluntness, this is a terrible idea. As are all natural disasters. Building an economic juggernaut or fighting a tremendous war are fun. Having half your empire wiped out in an great earthquake or flood is not.

I hate the plague and volcanos, and they hardly do anything.

 

[Mr. Blonde]

What about not only having diseases but mayor diseased like the pest or the spanish flu? Where you have 3 turns to eliminate all trading routes to the infected city or the bordering cities are infected (and those of other civilisations, too of course)? Make a cap on the population loss each city can take based on size and all civilisations will suffer only to a certain degree. Though the way harbors and airports act must be rethought in this case. (Maybe only if you trade resources with them) It comes into existance every 30-40 turns somewhere randomly, cities with hospitals are not affected?

 

[Galganov]

Couldnt that just be exploited by making a path that leads only to an enemy's city so that only it is infected, weaking that civ before an assult?

 

[sealman]

For the sake of bluntness, this is a terrible idea. As are all natural disasters. Building an economic juggernaut or fighting a tremendous war are fun. Having half your empire wiped out in an great earthquake or flood is not.

I hate the plague and volcanos, and they hardly do anything.

I agree with the Stones Fan

 

[Mr. Blonde]

Posted by Ganglov:
Couldnt that just be exploited by making a path that leads only to an enemy's city so that only it is infected, weaking that civ before an assult?

You got a point, but you actually want to trade with all civs bordering you, maybe the civ is only affected if you have lux/resource deals running and when you then launch an attack during this deal still running, you get a rep hit? However, one can at least TRY TO PLAY WITHOUT EXPLOITS. I hope you take no offense. Maybe trying to find exploits before ideas are implemented is good since you can adjust them before a weak mind gets tempted...

 

[CIVPhilzilla]

I think diseases should be implemented. Just look at what happened to the Indingenious socities in America during European colonization, millions where wiped out by diseases. Also nuclear winter should be implemented, other than that I think meteors is going too far.

 

[Yuri2356]

This is the 3rd thread I've had to post this in:

I just thought I'd throw in my Idea on the disease Issue. Over the course of time different terrain would have a risk of causing disease in nearby cities as it does now. But rather than killing the citizen instantly, they would first become "infected". While infected the citizen only requires 1 food and can not work. Infected citizens have a chance of surviving the disease which can be increaced with the discovery of medicine/sanitation/building hospitals. For every citizen that survives a disease, the chance of future infection lowers to reflect natural resistance/immmunity and improvements in medicine. The effect would at first only effect the infected city unless it was connected to the rest of the empire so it can share its knowlage. Eventually, you people would become completley immune to that specific disease, but each disease producing area on a continent would have a different strain of the disease, and require more time to immunize. Certain diseases would be impossible to destroy ie. Influenza 'the flu'.
The ability to spread a disease that exists only on your continent to others (like what happent to the native Ammericans with smallpox) could be implemented, While your people would infect the locals with your ailments, they would also be vulnerable to local plagues. In later ages as medicine and communication improve problems like this could be stoped by giving you the ability to sell of give cures to various diseases.

And:

You could also apply that system to Fix Radiation effects on cities:
When a City nuked, a % of it's surviving citizens will be infected with "radiation poisoning" (say, 50% from direct hit, 30% if it's the next square over) People only have a chance of survival if there is a hospital in the City (about 25%) survival rate increaces to 50% after discovering genetics, and to 75% if you build the cure for cancer.

 

[douche_bag]

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I'm all for adding the apocolypse to Civ, but to have it just hit out of the blue? There should be some for of advance warning for when a dissaster will have a chance of hitting soon (Ie the meteor is coming, but they're not sure if it's a hit or miss) it could even be something crazy in the ancient times like:
"Our mystics have seen a number of strange omens in the past year, they fear the worst..."

good idea,but instead of just getting the best score you can,you should be able to do something about it.Or if your still in ancient eras,it could say that you have to migrate to a different land or youll all be blown to peices :suicide:

 

[MSTK]

Despite all your arguments, I think that apocalyptic disasters should come without warning.

 

[thestonesfan]

What's the point of an apocalyptic disaster? Not a flood or something that wipes out a single city, but you would seriously want something in the game that just randomly ends it?

Cool, but this idea can also be modded into Civ3, so why wait? Here's some ways to do it:

Play the unpatched version and hope the game crashes.

Play during a lightning storm.

Tell your little brother to pull the plug on your computer at random intervals.

Make some cuts in your power cord so it shorts out occasionally.

Seriously, this is the lamest idea imaginable. I don't usually say people's ideas are lame, but this is terrible.

 

[sealman]

What's the point of an apocalyptic disaster? Not a flood or something that wipes out a single city, but you would seriously want something in the game that just randomly ends it?

Cool, but this idea can also be modded into Civ3, so why wait? Here's some ways to do it:

Play the unpatched version and hope the game crashes.

Play during a lightning storm.

Tell your little brother to pull the plug on your computer at random intervals.

Make some cuts in your power cord so it shorts out occasionally.

Seriously, this is the lamest idea imaginable. I don't usually say people's ideas are lame, but this is terrible.

I still agree with the Stones Fan

 

[Pook]

I agree with the Stones Fan and sealman.

If you really want this feature, couldn't you just unplug your computer?