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Yes. I'm suggesting the same thing: the U-ga (2016) are the descendants of the Vril-ya (1871). The two names could easily be etymologically related, particularly in an alien language. In The Moon Maid, the U-ga look human, live underground, and fly on artificial wings powered by "an unknown force".
I see now -
We move the robots from the U-ga to the Vril, and allow them to build Angels as special units, and only when they have Vril in their Resource Box.
I parsed that to mean that the robots would build the Vrilya.

So we might say that, in the timeline of our mod, the Vril-ya haven't colonized earth's underground yet. Perhaps the events that begin our mod have changed their history too....
Perhaps after being discovered by Bulwer-Lytton's protagonist, and becoming aware of Otto Lidenbrock's explorations, they decided the moon was safer than the Hollow Earth. The Lunar sources of Vril being richer, already having established mining colonies there, and an available fleet of Vril-powered craft would all make the transition fairly straightforward.
 
The attacks of tom2050's Winged Dryad are exactly right for a Vrilya (imho) since they favor the use of a rod that discharges Vril.

I will be doing the Angel for that unit (with original AO textures) anyways, so if you need a Vrilya (w/e that may be?), I can do that also. If it is something that is like a metallic version, I can recolor it appropriately.
 
I will be doing the Angel for that unit (with original AO textures) anyways, so if you need a Vrilya (w/e that may be?), I can do that also. If it is something that is like a metallic version, I can recolor it appropriately.
Picture a toga-clad aryan with metal wings ( a worn device, not part of their body, although that wouldn't matter for the unit) & a metal staff to deliver various energy charges & attacks. They are the underground race in one of the more famous Hollow Earth novels.
 
Egad! There is a double-hoax going on here! Notice that the teller of he Moon-hoax story sets it at the Cape of Good Hope, the home of the Dutch-speaking Boers. Perhaps that was because the actual story teller is Hans Pfall, a dutchman, who, having used his story of a trip to the Moon to gain his freedom in Rotterdam, leaked a fantastic version of the rest of the story to Locke, his hapless dupe at the New York Sun, whose story knocked the story told to E. A. Poe off of the front pages. The purpose of the moon-hoax was to threaten a group of wealthy investors, from whom he hoped for funding of a scientific expedition. So he concocted a story that included elements of the description of the moon that he'd already revealed to them mixed with obviously fantastical elements, like Unicorns. This sent a message, "pay up or I'll make your investment worthless."

Sometime later, Professor Lidenbrock and his nephew Axel begin an ascent to the center of the Earth with a trusted guide: Hans (Bjelke). Why might we assume that this Hans might be, in fact, Hans Pfall? The volcanic tube they descended was probably not in Iceland either - Iceland's volcanoes are much to active; those details were likely invented to hide the true location of the great tunnel. I'd guess at a location somewhere near Nantes, France.

Think back to Pfall's letter in Poe's account; in it, Pfall informs his accusers that he got the idea to go to the moon from a chance encounter with a book on Speculative Astronomy. Then he adds an aside, "in conjunction with a discovery in pneumatics, lately communicated to me as an important secret, by a cousin from Nantz".

An "important secret" in pneumatics? Unlikely. But what if the "important secret" wasn't about pneumatics at all, but rather a sample of Cavorite? (and if he has Cavorite, perhaps he has Vril as well!) Pfall, who thought that the voyage to the moon would be his last, surely took his books on Mechanics and his scientific samples with him on the trip. In the public account, however, Pfall suspiciously lists no books in his ship's inventory, an unbelievable claim given the precision of his calculations on the way to the moon, or are we to believe that he is a savant as well, able to keep great amounts of technical knowledge entirely in his head?

I think we can deduce the presence of Cavorite in the construction of Mr. Pfall's craft by the obvious absence of a method of propulsion in Pfall's description, which is otherwise quite precise in detail. Pfall is, by his own admission not a scientist, he is rather a tinkerer - no doubt this maker of bellows envied the skill of the blacksmiths who hired him.

This would account for the curious state of technology among the Vril-ya. That they have the technology to fashion fully functioning robots, and artificial wings of advanced design, yet they show no other signs of scientific advancement at all? The solution might be this early contact with Pfall himself, whose only scientific knowledge, and all of his textbooks, were on the subject of mechanics. The Vrilya apparently made the most of this limited knowledge, doubtless noting the design of Pfall's pressurized capsule down to the cross-stitch.

There are two things that concern me: firstly, the manner of Pfall's return to earth, and his real reason for doing so. These things are never revealed in any account. Secondly, the messenger who delivers Pfall's message at the very beginning of Poe's story sounds suspiciously like a Moblin - a low level minion of the Cthulhi. If it was a Moblin, we can assume that it escaped its subterranean servitude, bringing with it valuable minerals, and setting these events in motion; we can assume this because, were there other Cthulhi involved, Hans would have had no need or reason to employ Lidenbrock to reach the earth's core.

I believe, gentlemen, that Pfall is not above selling his peculiar knowledge to the highest bidder, and alerting our most dangerous adversaries to these dangerous secrets. That we haven't heard of such a thing yet happening is some evidence that we are not too late to prevent this disastrous turn of events from occurring and beginning a race (back) to the moon.
 
What's wrong with salami sammiches? I've had two an hour or so ago. I can still… think… clearly… zzzzz…

*wakes up* So, umm… who are these Cthulhi fellows?
 
When I was doing my research for my Barsoom SPORE creatures I found these.





 
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Psssst... wanna buy my state-of-the-art underwater battleship?

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I thought I'd turn things around a bit, and list some of the exotic creatures of Barsoom that we seem to have found good units for in the database; we don't need the following to be made:

Plant Men:

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Tom 2050's Sahuagin looks just like a Plant Man.

Calot:

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Currently being used as placeholders for Thoats, Tom's Basilisks have the right number of legs and large snouts of a Calot.

Sith:

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Vuldacon's Killer Hornet. Works for me.

Kangaroo Man:

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Utahjazz's Faun And Plot's Satyrs could be Kangaroo Men.

Hormad:

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The laboratory-made Hormad is described as a grotesque, and Vuldacon's Omega Zombie is appropriately ugly.

Malagor Rider

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The Malagor is described straight forwardly as a prehistoric Bird, the only fowl described in any of the books. The only known Malagors are domesticated and usually seen with a rider. Judging by the concept art that Wyrmshadow posted, this will be just fine. Note: I couldn't find this in the database, and this image is from my own Eagle Rider file. Does it need to be re-uploaded, and who made the original? Oz?


For images of the Barsoom races and machines (including placeholders), look here and here.

For a list of the Barsoomian units we need to have made, look here.
 
Huh. In a similar vein, I have Kinboat's Pteradon Rider as well as his mounted Pegasus, Plotinus' Nazgul, and embryodead's Wyvern (with rider) but the Malagor is unknown to me :confused:

(As an aside, did you guys ever check out Kindred72's Warrior Princess?)
 
Malagor Rider

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The Malagor is described straight forwardly as a prehistoric Bird, the only fowl described in any of the books. The only known Malagors are domesticated and usually seen with a rider. Judging by the concept art that Wyrmshadow posted, this will be just fine. Note: I couldn't find this in the database, and this image is from my own Eagle Rider file. Does it need to be re-uploaded, and who made the original? Oz?

Huh. In a similar vein, I have Kinboat's Pteradon Rider as well as his mounted Pegasus, Plotinus' Nazgul, and embryodead's Wyvern (with rider) but the Malagor is unknown to me :confused:
It's Kinboat's Eagle Rider (thread) the link is a direct dl so it may not be in the db.
 
It took me awhile longer than I'd planned, but I've finally updated all of the units lists in the Master Units Post to match the changes that have been made over the last month. There were quite a few changes:

1. New Units - All of the new units by Plotinus and Tom have been added in. Also added Pirate Jenny to the Gothic Union's list as their alternative to Ker Kerrage.

2. New Civ changes: The Kaldanes have been added to the Barsoom units list; The Uga are now the Vril-ya and the Vril are now the Cthulhi. I added the Angel Vrilya in where flying units are usually built (i.e. Stratospheric Flight tech).

3. The British units are now labeled for better reference.

I researched the Cthulhi Mythos beasts and decided to leave that unit line largely alone, except to add a few beasts, mostly from Greek Mythology. My theory is that the Cthulhi terrorized the Atlanteans (and other ancient Greeks) with these beasts in return for sacrificial offerings until the whole thing sank under the sea....
 
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