Are there any aspects in which you think CiV surpasses CIV?
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troytheface
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every aspect
civ4 is a tired, outdated game
its like 10 years old
some like to play 10 year old games and thats cool
but no comparison
people quit 4 becasue it was already played to death
the evidence is clear- Enter the Moderns
civ4 is a tired, outdated game
its like 10 years old
some like to play 10 year old games and thats cool
but no comparison
people quit 4 becasue it was already played to death
the evidence is clear- Enter the Moderns
Jharii
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LOL. When I first read that, I thought it said "Enter the Modems." Which made your post extremely hilarious.
troytheface
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well i kinda feel sorry for the civ4 people and the complainers
its like, they are in the wrong forum for one, and then they want to complain like a 10 year old or something
but kids complain and its natural
whats unnatural is like a poor kid that gets a game and is really thankful and humble
on here its like 28 year olds mad at entertainment
the evidence is clear- Natural Selection in the Land of the Mad
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its like, they are in the wrong forum for one, and then they want to complain like a 10 year old or something
but kids complain and its natural
whats unnatural is like a poor kid that gets a game and is really thankful and humble
on here its like 28 year olds mad at entertainment
the evidence is clear- Natural Selection in the Land of the Mad
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mmmfloorpie
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I hate this part of Civ 5... You own a city that you invest culture into, the enemy caps it, and they get to keep the borders you spent years developing... Then, you have to lose movement points getting your units in to liberate it.
If culture is something unique to your culture (like it is in real life) why should we accept that in Civ 5, enemies just take over your culture when they take over your city? It was much better in Civ4 where the enemy would have to build up culture over time and if you were able to liberate the city, your previous culture borders would be restored.
Drakarska
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Off the top of my head? Graphics and sys reqs 
There are actually a few concepts that I like, but the implementaion is poor ( IMO).
1) hexes
2) 1upt
3) SP ( although there's lots of room for improvement)
Those would be my top 3 choices. But even with those 3, I feel they need to be improved upon. Overall though? just not impressed at all with V.
There are actually a few concepts that I like, but the implementaion is poor ( IMO).
1) hexes
2) 1upt
3) SP ( although there's lots of room for improvement)
Those would be my top 3 choices. But even with those 3, I feel they need to be improved upon. Overall though? just not impressed at all with V.
Let's turn the question. What is the advantage of having some directions being advantageous in comparison to others?
Zhahz
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Yes. Civ 5 has issues but so did IV when it first hit. Overall I like V better.
I'm not sure why people who dislike5V bother posting - stop playing it, and stop discussing it.
Overall, this forum has become useless and the strategy forum is more like the general forum for people who don't whine about Civ 5 constantly. They really should make a new subforum called "Civ 5 hankie rooom" for all the people who complain about Civ 5 nonstop and clear the general forum of the repetitive garbage.
I'm not sure why people who dislike5V bother posting - stop playing it, and stop discussing it.
Overall, this forum has become useless and the strategy forum is more like the general forum for people who don't whine about Civ 5 constantly. They really should make a new subforum called "Civ 5 hankie rooom" for all the people who complain about Civ 5 nonstop and clear the general forum of the repetitive garbage.
Aristos
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Boredom.
squadbroken
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Yep. It's just the same "why Civ 5 sucks" thread posted over and over again by the same handful of whiners.
As for the topic: Civ 5 surpasses Civ 4 in almost every way. I guess Civ 4 has more pointless tedium and micromanagement, if you like that sort of thing.
-Hexes.
-1UPT.
-Cities can defend themselves without a garrison.
-No road spam.
-Maintenance. The values need to be tweaked, but I think it gives you a more intuitive grasp of the costs and benefits of various buildings.
-Embarking. I rarely played Continent maps in Civ IV because the naval game wasn't much fun, and building and loading transports was annoying.
-I like that every unit moves at least 2 hexes.
-I prefer the social policy system to the civics.
-City-states were a great idea, unless it turns out that they're the only outlet for diplomacy, in which case I kinda hate them.
-Strategic resources. Now there are tangible benefits for acquiring them.
-The cultural spread logic needs some work, but I appreciate being able to buy a hex.
-1UPT.
-Cities can defend themselves without a garrison.
-No road spam.
-Maintenance. The values need to be tweaked, but I think it gives you a more intuitive grasp of the costs and benefits of various buildings.
-Embarking. I rarely played Continent maps in Civ IV because the naval game wasn't much fun, and building and loading transports was annoying.
-I like that every unit moves at least 2 hexes.
-I prefer the social policy system to the civics.
-City-states were a great idea, unless it turns out that they're the only outlet for diplomacy, in which case I kinda hate them.
-Strategic resources. Now there are tangible benefits for acquiring them.
-The cultural spread logic needs some work, but I appreciate being able to buy a hex.
AlpsStranger
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- Hexes
- General terrain appearance
- Vastly prettier icon set(love the Dec')
- 1upT (AI aside)
- Ability to lock single tiles without disabling governor (good reduction in tedium)
- Embarkation
- Long awaited death of road spaghetti
- Quantified strategic resources
- Creeping tile claim
- Puppet States (ultimate reduction in tedium)
There is, unfortunately, still a much larger list of negatives. I won't list them because that isn't what the OP asked for.
- General terrain appearance
- Vastly prettier icon set(love the Dec')
- 1upT (AI aside)
- Ability to lock single tiles without disabling governor (good reduction in tedium)
- Embarkation
- Long awaited death of road spaghetti
- Quantified strategic resources
- Creeping tile claim
- Puppet States (ultimate reduction in tedium)
There is, unfortunately, still a much larger list of negatives. I won't list them because that isn't what the OP asked for.
Jaffa Tamarin
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Hexes, 1UPT for combat (not so much for movement), more interesting leader traits, city states, building a proper road network instead of spamming them everywhere, achievements, one-tile-at-a-time city expansion and buying tiles, non-infinite strategic resources.
It´s all perdy and shiny and stuff ?
No but seriously, hexes are kinda nice although very meh to be the best improvment imho.
I really, really wish i could say 1upt but it´s even worse than SoD... Here is the part where i rant about limited stacking and finish with something like: only time will tell if 1upt can be great, or even good.
Oh and no roadspam! How could i forget that? However they went a bit to far, like with most of the new stuff.
No but seriously, hexes are kinda nice although very meh to be the best improvment imho.
I really, really wish i could say 1upt but it´s even worse than SoD... Here is the part where i rant about limited stacking and finish with something like: only time will tell if 1upt can be great, or even good.
Oh and no roadspam! How could i forget that? However they went a bit to far, like with most of the new stuff.
Rystic
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But... It's not actually an advantage. It might seem that way because you're moving two directions at once, but you're still moving one tile on a uniform grid. I mean, moving six spaces up is the exact same distance as moving six spaces diagonally. You're just on a vertical line instead of a diagonal line.
AlpsStranger
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Yes, there are aspects of Civ5 that I think surpass Civ4.
Almost forgot to add...
-Has a bigger number!
Indeed! Bigger numbers are fun.
(Before I get jumped on: I really do like quite a few of the features in Civ5, and I'm cautiously hoping that the bugs and AI problems will continue to be ironed out with free patching.)
r_rolo1
King of myself
Future expectations should not be included in here IMHO
In fact the title of the thread is in the present tense 
Bob1475
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Hexes
Tactical military
1UPT
Ship bombard
Promotions like extra range and double shot per turn
Embarking
Puppet cities
In general the slow boring part of the game has been moved to the beginning instead of the end. I find then when I finally reach riflemen the game has a much better feel. Modern times in CIV4 seemed very boring as you had little to build. In CIV the advanced social policies really can give the game a jolt.
Tactical military
1UPT
Ship bombard
Promotions like extra range and double shot per turn
Embarking
Puppet cities
In general the slow boring part of the game has been moved to the beginning instead of the end. I find then when I finally reach riflemen the game has a much better feel. Modern times in CIV4 seemed very boring as you had little to build. In CIV the advanced social policies really can give the game a jolt.
