Are you Politically Correct?

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That's why this thread is so much fun.

 

[Akka]

That's why this thread is so much fun.

Not sure "fun" is the right word

Well, using the "wrong" word fits with the general theme, though.

 

[red_elk]

Theres no pc police, no central committee deciding what language is and isn't acceptable.

We need the central committee, comrades. Central committee is good.

 

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@Akka
It's obviously a source of disagreement. Ones opinions will never change unless exposed to different ones.
Believe it or not I have rethought many issues based on some of things I've read here. Ever evolving or just waiting for death.

 

[Cloud_Strife]

Act like what, Militia? I claimed the assertion was that it was violence. Is that incorrect? Seeing as neither of us has any problem with addressing people the way they want to be addressed and indicate that we <gasp> believe you when you say it's important. Should I have used a more apocalyptic term than violence? It was the one you used, and I reiterated it. You, yourself, are frequently dismissive of respect and manners. Is that also incorrect? Or is it one of those things where it's incorrect when I say it? Legit questions. Like I said, I have problems parsing 100% when it seems presumed I'm all the way up here.

Don't call me "Militia".

I do not subscribe to decorum because it is often used as an excuse to dismiss the very real concerns of groups who fall outside what is considered "polite society".

Unlike others, I prefer to be direct even if it is blunt.

 

[Farm Boy]

The question was "act like what," Strife.

Edit: principle question, at any rate.

 

[Manfred Belheim]

In the good old days people of color (including Italians) were lynched, women were literal chattel and LGBT people were openly persecuted by both the state and public, not to mention that religious minorities such as Jews were also subject to various forms of discrimination.

I guess we have political correctness to thank for ameliorating some of that.

I mean... I don't think we do. Given that "polical correctness" in its current form has only been around since the 1980s or so. But then the world you're painting a picture of never really existed anyway, so pretending it existed up to and including the 1970s makes as much sense as anything I suppose.

 

[AmazonQueen]

I mean... I don't think we do. Given that "polical correctness" in its current form has only been around since the 1980s or so. But then the world you're painting a picture of never really existed anyway, so pretending it existed up to and including the 1970s makes as much sense as anything I suppose.

The process of language changing and some words or phrases becoming unacceptable has always been around. Right-wing claims that its some sort of political thought control have only been around since the 1980s.

 

[rah]

While you're certainly correct that the process has always been around, I think the advent of the internet and the growth of social media has increased the focus on it and the perceived importance of it. It has become more weaponized.

 

[Lexicus]

But then the world you're painting a picture of never really existed anyway,

What do you mean by this?

 

[AmazonQueen]

While you're certainly correct that the process has always been around, I think the advent of the internet and the growth of social media has increased the focus on it and the perceived importance of it. It has become more weaponized.

You're probably right, although I think that increased weaponization applies across the political spectrum, not just the left.

 

[Broken_Erika]

What do you mean by this?

The Matrix has you.

 

[Synobun]

What do you mean by this?

There are no PoC, women, or religious minorities being actively oppressed within the safety of Manfred's bedroom, and there never has been, so ergo ipso facto bada bing bada boom anyone who thinks anyone has ever been oppressed ever is just illogically overwhelmed with hysteria and threatened by facts.

 

[TheMeInTeam]

LOL, I hope not equally!

It'd be pretty rare for it to be "equal". I have seen someone say something kind of mean and then later get a reaction/"revenge" act that was completely out of bounds/harmful, and in that case I thought less of the "over-reactor". Usually I think less of the jerk.

 

[rah]

You're probably right, although I think that increased weaponization applies across the political spectrum, not just the left.

Yes, both sides take advantage of it.

 

[Gorbles]

While you're certainly correct that the process has always been around, I think the advent of the internet and the growth of social media has increased the focus on it and the perceived importance of it. It has become more weaponized.

The actual importance has also risen, because the interconnectivity of the Internet allows what would have been private tales of abuse and grief to get out to the world at large, enabling friends and support networks to help people like they couldn't before.

It's like looking for historical records on gay folks before gay rights became more mainstream. They're hard to find, because people intentionally repressed it, and the Internet either wasn't a thing at all, or wasn't what it was today. This applies to most disadvantaged minorities throughout (all of) history.

 

[Manfred Belheim]

The process of language changing and some words or phrases becoming unacceptable has always been around. Right-wing claims that its some sort of political thought control have only been around since the 1980s.

Yes I know, but the idea that excessive hand-wringing out word use was responsible for stopping lynchings or extending the voting franchise is kind of silly and anachronistic.

 

[Manfred Belheim]

There are no PoC, women, or religious minorities being actively oppressed within the safety of Manfred's bedroom

This is absolutely 100% true and there is no need to call the police at all.

 

[rah]

The actual importance has also risen, because the interconnectivity of the Internet allows what would have been private tales of abuse and grief to get out to the world at large, enabling friends and support networks to help people like they couldn't before.

It's like looking for historical records on gay folks before gay rights became more mainstream. They're hard to find, because people intentionally repressed it, and the Internet either wasn't a thing at all, or wasn't what it was today. This applies to most disadvantaged minorities throughout (all of) history.

While there is some truth there, I think Hollywood gets a lot of credit also.

 

[Gorbles]

For changing language? Hollywood is (despite right-wing claims) rather conservative (or centrist, charitably) in how it casts actors and actresses and with what it chooses to promote. You get a lot more realistic films or shorts coming out of, say, Sundance or similar film festivals.

EDIT

If you mean by raising awareness, then sure, perhaps. As much as a for-profit enterprise can be, I guess.