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What is your attitude towards the Imjin War? Is Korean government a main participant?
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Eretz Yisrael
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It was fought on our land. Of course we were. The Choson Navy did wonders due to the Japanese being overconfident about themselves; where the Choson Army couldnt do much with its half-guerilla forces; the Korean soldiers were second-rate soldiers compared to Ming soldiers in terms of training, but Korean forces were armed with zeal and fanaticism to get the Japanese out of the country.
civ-addicted
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My Professor in Japanese, who also speaks Turkish and Korean, always tells us the similarities in those languages, but that it's somehow political incorrect to talk about the relation between the two peoples and languages. Btw, he is German but married to a Japanese.
It's also a fact that the Yayoi people immigrated from the Korean peninsula.
So, do Koreans recognize their relationship with the Japanese in any way?
It's also a fact that the Yayoi people immigrated from the Korean peninsula.
So, do Koreans recognize their relationship with the Japanese in any way?
Eretz Yisrael
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Well if you look more closely into Japanese history, you would also find various other peoples, such as the Kumamoto, Hayato, the Ainu, Chinese settlers, etc. Basically Japan is a huge mix of peoples from surrounding areas, with Koreans and CHinese being the majority.
Samgusaki, Nihon Shoki, and the various Chinese annuals all describe the intertwining relationship between Korean and Japan. Empress Suiko-Tenno once led an army to Korea, Baekjae was once the senior in a 'vassalage' relationship between itself and Yamato, Imjim Wars, Japanese Pirates harassing Korean coastlines, Japanese colonizing Korea, similarities between Korean and Japanese, Baekjae royal family settling in Japan with the clan name of Kudara no Konishiki, etc.
Did the Ming Dynasty's involvement have a big impact on Hideyoshi's request of Korea? Would the Koreans have fended off the Japanese invasion without China's help?
I don't buy in nationalist propaganda from both sides either, but there's a Korean TV series named:不滅的李舜臣 which caused a lot of backlash in the Chinese internet community since it downplayed the role of Chinese troops during the Japanese invasion
I don't buy in nationalist propaganda from both sides either, but there's a Korean TV series named:不滅的李舜臣 which caused a lot of backlash in the Chinese internet community since it downplayed the role of Chinese troops during the Japanese invasion
Read the OP, he said he's studied in Korea and China.
Eretz Yisrael
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Well, thats one of those big 'ifs' in history; without Chinese participation, Korea would have certainly perished; but even with Chinese participation, Korea had to fend for itself as the Ming tended to be snotty and had divisions when it came to battlefield strategy. We wanted every inch of land back as soon as possible; the Ming thought otherwise and tried to prevent military causalities if it could.
Now lots of Koreans tend to glorify Admiral Yi, but the truth is that if China hadnt joined the war on our side, the Japanese would have been aggressive in their overall strategy.
I think the name came out like that because back then I was really into Israel and all that. Korea's surprisingly pro-Israel (25% is Christian) and the pro-Palestinians mainly consist of leftists, human rights lawyers, etc.
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About the Imjin war... in the end, it was a war of attrition. Hideyoshi thought that if he captured Hansung(seoul), then Pyongyang, then every other major city, he could control entire Korea. He was wrong. Though Chosun had a ridiculously disorganized and inefficient army, guerilla forces from every village not listed on the map sprang up and inflicted heavy losses. They too, would have been vanquished if not for Admiral Yi Soon Shin. DOn't underestimate his influence. In order for Japan's 100,000 - man main force to march up northeast, they needed a huge amount of supplies to feed them, which was planned to be shipped by boat. When Yi Soon SHin, devastated every naval hardware that ever got "on the wrong side of the peninsula", it wasn't that simpl.e (Yi Soon Shin had 100% victory rate, once defeating 300 ships with mere 13). Still, in order to drive all the japanese out of the country, KOrea needed chinese support. But with death of hideyoshi and the coup detat of Tokugawa, there would have been two outcomes. 1. Japanese all pull out. 2. Japaese hold on to whatever part of korea they still did and stalemate there.
Remember taht the reason china intervened was to prevent a ravaging battle in their own ground. Still, koreans did not forget the aid, and when the Qing invaded the ailing Ming, the rightist Chosun parties pushed for helping the Ming, which was a stupid move, and resulted in a massive nomadic invasion.
Remember taht the reason china intervened was to prevent a ravaging battle in their own ground. Still, koreans did not forget the aid, and when the Qing invaded the ailing Ming, the rightist Chosun parties pushed for helping the Ming, which was a stupid move, and resulted in a massive nomadic invasion.
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...this thread is from 2 years ago.
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