Ask an agnostic...

[Sidhe]

OK there are too many threads about: ask a particular lifestlye choice or a particular country someone lives in or whatever, with that in mind I ask people to consider my opinion. Why do I believe that agnosticism is the most rational expression of belief. In other words this whole deal is excellent and I'm really apreciating these threads. Let's go to work.

I am an agnostic in the sense I believe that I can not know whether God exists or not. Ask away.

 

[Adamb0mb]

Who's faith is more misguided, the athiest for his faith that no god exists or the religous for his faith in god?

 

[Masquerouge]

Do you think it most likely that things we do not understand yet have a natural or a supernatural explanation?

 

[Rhymes]

Ha!! I was just about to start a thread called ASK AN AGNOSTIC. But then I thought it would be way too much for now and I decided to postpone it for a couple of days.
I am a different kind of agnostic though, I believe a form of god exists, but that mankind is not meant to know anything about it.. at least up to now.

So if you dont mind I'll give my ansers too

 

[Perfection]

Are you also agnostic on such absurdities as FSM and IPU?

 

[Rhymes]

Who's faith is more misguided, the athiest for his faith that no god exists or the religous for his faith in god?

I'de say they are both as far. Though the religious guy is more misleaded by his beliefs.

Do you think it most likely that things we do not understand yet have a natural or a supernatural explanation?

I think that eventually the natural will explain everything including what we think is supernatural. Eventually science will discover and explain the existence of GOD.

 

[Rhymes]

Are you also agnostic on such absurdities as FSM and IPU?

Never heard about them.... ? My belief is only based on my personal knowledge and opinions.

 

[Sidhe]

Who's faith is more misguided, the athiest for his faith that no god exists or the religous for his faith in god?

Equally misguided in my opinion neither has a logical argument.

Do you think it most likely that things we do not understand yet have a natural or a supernatural explanation?

I think either is equally reasonable ATM, given that I am a scientist this seems irrational, but philosophically it is logical. In all honesty though I think everything probablly has a rational explanation, but whether we would accept it as rational is an interesting question. OK I'm ducking the issue I think everything eventually could be explained.

Are you also agnostic on such absurdities as FSM and IPU?

I don't know what FSM and IPU are, could you explain?

 

[Perfection]

Never heard about them.... ? My belief is only based on my personal knowledge and opinions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invisible_Pink_Unicorn
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster

 

[Masquerouge]

I think that eventually the natural will explain everything including what we think is supernatural. Eventually science will discover and explain the existence od GOD.

I asked that question, not Adam

Mmmh.I believe one of God's very own attributes is that He can not be understandable. If we can discover and explain God, if God is within our intellectual grasp, then He's not God.

It's interesting because I have the same starting hypothesis as you (the natural will explain everything) but I end up atheist, not agnostic.

 

[Xanikk999]

Why did my "ask" thread get closed. Im the only one.

Btw im agnostic also, but what makes you agnostic and not athiest personally?

 

[Masquerouge]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invisible_Pink_Unicorn
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster

yeah, that's precisely why I'm an atheist. If I admit there's a possibility that God exists because I can't be sure he doesn't exist, then I must also admit that the IPU and FSM might exist.

 

[Masquerouge]

Why did my "ask" thread get closed. Im the only one.

The lazy american one? Probably because it was not serious and concerned a temporary attribute.

Btw im agnostic also, but what makes you agnostic and not athiest personally?

Read my post right above this one

 

[Rhymes]

I asked that question, not Adam

Mmmh.I believe one of God's very own attributes is that He can not be understandable. If we can discover and explain God, if God is within our intellectual grasp, then He's not God.

It's interesting because I have the same starting hypothesis as you (the natural will explain everything) but I end up atheist, not agnostic.

Then we don't have the same concept of god. When I say we'r gonna find out what god is, I mean we are gonna find the origine of theuniverse and of our existence. Whatever that is, I call it God.

Edit: if you will, I believe there is a god because I believe there is a reason and source why we, and everything else, exists.
While in my mind, an atheist thinks that there is no reason or intelligence behind our existence.

 

[Sidhe]

Why did my "ask" thread get closed. Im the only one.

Btw im agnostic also, but what makes you agnostic and not athiest personally?

Logic essentially, I cannot prove that God does not exist, therefore I cannot take an atheistic stand, I guess I'm rational and logical not arbitrary based on lack of reason.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invisible_Pink_Unicorn
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster

Ah I see: but I cannot prove or disprove these notions either, in an infinite universe, they may well exist( I realise the falacy in the infinite universe notion) They don't present an argument, they just present something that I cannot disprove.

 

[Masquerouge]

Then we don't have the same concept of god. When I say we'r gonna find out what god is, I mean we are gonna find the origine of theuniverse and of our existence. Whatever that is, I call it God.

So your God is not by essence supernatural?

 

[Xanikk999]

I asked that question, not Adam

Mmmh.I believe one of God's very own attributes is that He can not be understandable. If we can discover and explain God, if God is within our intellectual grasp, then He's not God.

It's interesting because I have the same starting hypothesis as you (the natural will explain everything) but I end up atheist, not agnostic.

Exactly. Thats why all religion is pointless. If god exists we cant explain it unless he tells us himself.

 

[Perfection]

Why did my "ask" thread get closed.

Because "Ask a Lazy American" has little discussion potential

Im the only one.

No the following ask threads have also been closed:
Ask a Fifty
Ask a jobless wonder.
Ask a Steph
Ask R.M. Titor

 

[Masquerouge]

Logic essentially, I cannot prove that God does not exist, therefore I cannot take an atheistic stand, I guess I'm rational and logical not arbitrary based on lack of reason.

Well logic and rationality actually makes me an atheist.
1. we do not understand everything. But so far every time we managed to understand something, it had a rational, logical and natural explanation. I don't see why that should change, and thus it's a safe bet to say the supernatural is not part of this universe.
2. as I said, if I must admit that God might exists because I can't prove he does not, then I must admit the Flying Spaghetti monster exists because I can't prove he does not, and I must admit that ghosts exists because I can't prove they do not, and so on and so forth... the rational and logical choice would be to say things you can not prove do not exist, do not exist.

 

[Rhymes]

So your God is not by essence supernatural?

Exactly. that being the difference between me and a religious person.

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