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[agamemnon_of_the-bronze_]

NO PIRATE REPUBLIC. this is not a historical choice. not a fantasy game. leave the history adjacent out of the game.

 

[Evie]

The Pirate Republic (though it was not actually a republic) existed for twelve years, which doesn't sound like much but is still three times longer than the CSA. That may not be long enough to be enough of a civ to get in the game, but it sure should be long enough to not be considered "fantasy".

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

Not only did the Pirate Republic actually exist, there were also piratical polities in Madagascar and Salé.

While I'm kind of dubious on the idea of making it a civ, I'm more than okay with the idea of making a pirate-themed civ. I probably would have gone with Ireland or the Barbary Coast.

 

[wilcoxchar]

Also if we're looking at pirates as a "civilization" like the other civs in the game and not just as a single state, then what the Pirate Republic would be representing existed in the Caribbean for 200-300 years.

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

The Pirate Republic (though it was not actually a republic) existed for twelve years, which doesn't sound like much but is still three times longer than the CSA. That may not be long enough to be enough of a civ to get in the game, but it sure should be long enough to not be considered "fantasy".

Yeah, pretty sure Nassau of the Pirate Republic already exists as an IP anyways. If it were up to me, I'd keep it an IP.

 

[moondog385]

The Pirate Republic, if it indeed makes it into the game, is not coming at the cost of any other civ. This game is going to have a really long dev cycle and it’s highly likely it’ll have more civs than any previous entry. Most civs people want will come eventually. Pirates aren’t holding them back.

 

[Ryansinbela]

Also a random Zenobia name drop in Base/modules/core/ui/reference/reference.html

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How many leaders are hidden in the files my god

 

[Ryansinbela]

Yeah, pretty sure Nassau of the Pirate Republic already exists as an IP anyways. If it were up to me, I'd keep it an IP.

Technically they belong to the Flying Gang but it still counts

 

[Boris Gudenuf]

Not only did the Pirate Republic actually exist, there were also piratical polities in Madagascar and Salé.

While I'm kind of dubious on the idea of making it a civ, I'm more than okay with the idea of making a pirate-themed civ. I probably would have gone with Ireland or the Barbary Coast.

- And Pirate 'Civs' existed much earlier on the Dalmatian and Anatolian coasts during and before the Roman Imperium and on the Chinese coast between then and the 'classical' Caribbean Pirates, all of which were organized into large enough groups to field Fleets and require major Imperial effort to combat.

 

[AD1730]

NO PIRATE REPUBLIC. this is not a historical choice. not a fantasy game. leave the history adjacent out of the game.

Piracy should be a component of an exploration age crisis, not a civ.

 

[FishFishFish]

If people want a Civ with bonuses to piracy so badly, then add Morocco or Tunis or some other Barbary state. The Pirate Republic is a unbelievably awful Civ choice.

 

[Uberfrog]

Not only did the Pirate Republic actually exist, there were also piratical polities in Madagascar and Salé.

While I'm kind of dubious on the idea of making it a civ, I'm more than okay with the idea of making a pirate-themed civ. I probably would have gone with Ireland or the Barbary Coast.

Gráinne Mhaol is another great leader choice who is sadly made less likely if Blackbeard and Sayyida make it in.

 

[Graethyenne]

I think the Pirate Republic is a fantastic inclusion. Maybe it would be better as traditional state known for piracy and maybe it wouldn't. But I cannot get behind it being a terrible choice. Civ is alternate history not straight-jacketed actual history. And it is trivial to imagine a civ evolving into something like the Pirate Republic and lasting for the full age more or less. Dislike it if you will, but I have to push back on all the "objectively terrible" talk.

 

[pokiehl]

Pirate Republic seems like a cool, unexpected choice. Looking forward to it.

 

[j51]

I’m neutral on the Pirate Republic and against the Atomic Age if it includes new civs.

 

[Leyrann]

I would prefer to see a "pirate civ" having the ability to appear at some point during the Exploration Age as a threat that you have to deal with. Possibly not even as a crisis, just... something that can happen.

Re: Atomic Age. Only if it's a continuation of the Modern Era with same civs. I don't want to see new civs for it. But I feel like expanding the current Eras would be a good approach. Perhaps you get a halfway and an end crisis event, with no civ change in between (but perhaps you get to make smaller adjustments at the midpoint?), stuff like that. Not necessarily just for the third Era.

 

[untitledjuan]

Not only did the Pirate Republic actually exist, there were also piratical polities in Madagascar and Salé.

While I'm kind of dubious on the idea of making it a civ, I'm more than okay with the idea of making a pirate-themed civ. I probably would have gone with Ireland or the Barbary Coast.

Or Exploration Era England.

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

Or Exploration Era England.

Imagine if that's the reason we didn't get a proper Exploration Age England. Instead of Sea Dog Great People they wanted Flying Gang Great People.

 

[Evie]

I see Pirates to be implemented as a Independent Power only. It could be a new one that appears during the Exploretion Era somewhere in the New World or a current City-State converting to Pirate State.

As others have pointed out, they're already an independent power.

 

[Lebo44]

As others have pointed out, they're already an independent power.

Ok, sorry, you are right. Deleted my post to avoid confusion.