queenpea
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Absolutely.
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Menocchio
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"Civ fans, you're the best fans in gaming—that's why we're giving you 2 free civs for the holidays!"
Surely... hopefully... right...?
Don‘t we already know all four civs and both leaders though?
I forgot the last civ after Iceland, pirates, and Ottomans though.
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Maori and Tonga, I believe
Ah right, thanks. It was 5 civs + 3 leaders! €40?
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Well, we don't know that they are coming all in one pack, or if those 5 are even the extent of it. It seems like it should at least include one more Antiquity civ.
And even more, we don't know if any of them beyond the Ottomans are still part of Firaxis' plans. I think it's obvious they've been reevaluating their position since those things were datamined.
I’ve had my doubts as well, but seeing the hints in the video for Iceland and pirates…
j51
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Can they just not with the pirates bs… sigh
I think Byzantines Free for the Holidays (St. Nicholas after all) If you want Istanbul not Constantinople.. you pay (if you like it better that way)
A pirate leader like Blackbeard, Zheng Yi Sao or Sayyida al Hurra is a fine idea, but a whole civ is silly.
I also don’t think asking fans to for out for another DLC bundle is the play right now. I would like to see some more civs for free as a reward for fan’s patience.
I also don’t think asking fans to for out for another DLC bundle is the play right now. I would like to see some more civs for free as a reward for fan’s patience.
DeutschDachs
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Well I suppose if there was ever a Civ game that could have a Pirate Republic, Civ VII makes the most sense where it can just exist within the Exploration Age.
Maybe not the most historically impactful Civ since the Flying Gang of Nassau only lasted a few years but it's not like Gran Colombia lasted long either. At least there's plenty of flavor there. Could be fun
Maybe not the most historically impactful Civ since the Flying Gang of Nassau only lasted a few years but it's not like Gran Colombia lasted long either. At least there's plenty of flavor there. Could be fun
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Menocchio
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That's what I meant: free Iceland/Pirates. Making the Pirate Republic free actually kind of makes sense in a sort of way: they're obviously a controversial civ choice, so would people be happy with paying for them while the game's development is still in recovery mode? We'll see, I suppose.
Leucarum
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If so it's a pity they missed international talk like a pirate day... Actually thinking of the dev video... It probably isn't...
Well that confirms it. Iceland could play like a naval Bulgaria. What do you guys think the Pirate’s kit could be like?
j51
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It’s just sad how the devs could care less about historical paths. Exploration needs Mesoamerica, Japan, Central Europe and East Africa filled out, not Johnny Depp the civ.
Sometimes it feels like they’re trying to alienate more and more and more of their fanbase. They already lost a ton of people with civ switching, now are they gonna chip away at those of us left by just making goofy and flippant civ choices?!
Sometimes it feels like they’re trying to alienate more and more and more of their fanbase. They already lost a ton of people with civ switching, now are they gonna chip away at those of us left by just making goofy and flippant civ choices?!
untitledjuan
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Technically, Gran Colombia still exists. The real and legal name of "Gran Colombia" was "Republic of Colombia", which still is the official legal name of Colombia. As a nation, Colombia has existed in some form or another from 1810 to the present (even from 1538 if you count its period as the Spanish colonial kingdom of New Granada).
"Gran Colombia" was just a historiographical name to refer to a period in Colombian history when Colombia was huge, but the nation did not stop existing after that period. Similar to how the "Weimer Republic" refers to a specific period of German history, or the "Byzantine Empire" being used to refer to the late Eastern Roman Empire.
No one ever identified as a "Gran Colombian", they (including Simón Bolívar himself) refered to themselves just as Colombian. There are even laws from back during the "Gran Colombia" period that are still in force in contemporary Colombia.
Also, Colombia (especifically during the period between 1810 and 1833, including the "Gran Colombia" period) was very influential overall, they conquered Ecuador, Perú, Panama, Bolivia and even briefly some parts of Florida and Santo Domingo wanted to join Colombia at some point. Under Simón Bolívar, Colombia (together with Argentina) pretty much put an end to the Spanish Empire and shaped the politics and culture of South America from 1810 to the present. Colombia, together with Argentina, the USA and Chile were amongst the first long lasting attempts at creating "modern" liberal "democratic" presidential republics in the world, while most of Europe remained under absolute monarchies for almost a century more until WWI.
I'm sure Colombia, Argentina, Haiti, Brazil, Chile, even Canada or Cuba, are much, much more influential than a short lived Pirate Republic ever was.
Not to mention the indigenous peoples of the Caribbean and South America (Arawak, Taíno, Caribs, Wayuu, Muisca, Tupi, Tairona, Guna, Emberá, Mapuche etc.) who deserve to be included before a "Pirate Republic" is even considered.
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Worst of all is that the Pirate Republic is the first Caribbean "civilization" to debut in the franchise, while the Taíno and Haiti are right there and would be infinitely better choices. I'm inclined to think the Pirate Republic has been ready for a long time, back when they thought civ switching was a good idea and felt they could afford to include civilizations randomly without worrying about reception.