Australian's newspaper strikes at Brazil on account of WC match

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Sure, Ronaldinho and his countrymen may seem like nice, happy-go-lucky people. But tomorrow morning in Munich all bets are off. Here are 10 reasons why Brazil must fall to the Socceroos. Carmel Egan reports.

1. They are better than us. Everybody knows that when it comes to soccer they are the best in the world. With five wins — 1958, 1962, 1970, 1994 and 2002 Brazil has more World Cup titles than any other nation. It's time they shared the glory around.

2. They are bigger than us. Everything about Brazil is big, its foreign debt, its wealth divide, its crime rate and its size.

The sixth largest in landmass and fifth most populous country on earth, Brazil occupies 49 per cent of South America.

We can be especially resentful that it is 925,115 square kilometres larger than Australia, which is the seventh largest country in the world.

3. They harboured Nazis and Ronald Biggs. Financially comfortable but morally bankrupt families harboured Auschwitz's Angel of Death, Dr Josef Mengele, for years until he drowned in 1979 without ever facing justice. An inquiry later found that the postwar military government in Brazil gave sanctuary to nine known Nazis.

Then Ronnie Biggs turned up. Biggs was doing time for his part in the 2.6 million pound Great Train Robbery of 1963 when he escaped in 1965. After a side trip to Melbourne he sailed off to Rio de Janeiro where he was found in 1974. British police could not extradite him because his girlfriend was pregnant and their son would be a Brazilian citizen.

Brazilian authorities even allowed him to corrupt those nice young Sex Pistols by recording a video with them in the late 1970s.

4. They are destroying the planet. The Amazon rainforest is known as the lungs of the world, but between May 2000 and August 2005 it is estimated that Brazil lost more than 132,000 square kilometres of it.

Since 1970 more than 600,000 square kilometres of Amazon rainforest have been destroyed. Lamentably, Brazil gave Sting another reason to hog the stage when he launched the Rainbow Foundation to raise awareness of the impact of deforestation on indigenous communities.

5. They don't like each other. So why should we like them? Neo-Nazis regularly roam the streets of Sao Paulo looking for street children, punks, homosexuals and Nordestinos (impoverished natives from Brazil's north-east) to rough up and kill. Brazil reportedly has the highest rate of homosexual murders in the world: 1830 homosexuals and transvestites were killed between 1980 and 1999.

Sao Paulo has the highest per capita murder rate in the world. Roughly 66 people per 100,000 are murdered each year against the also extraordinary national rate of 26 per 100,000.

6. They’ve got rhythm. While we were toe-tapping to the foxtrot, Brazil was bumping to the samba. It gave birth to Carmen Miranda, mixed bolero with African rhythms, developed the bossa nova and gave us the lambada. Then they toss it all together in the world's biggest street party in Rio de Janeiro every year.

At least we've got Moomba.

7. They don't need us. Brazil is one of the few countries in the world that could get by without the rest of us. It could be an economic powerhouse, if it were ever able to overcome its internal problems. It has enough mineral, energy resources and food to produce all it needs and enough people (184 million) to consume the final product.

Unfortunately, corruption, uncontrolled criminal violence, hyper-inflation and frequent economic upheavals mean they must rely a little longer on the benevolence of the IMF and World Bank.

8. Theyre a bad investment.
Twenty-two per cent of Brazilians live below the poverty line. Officially, unemployment is higher than 11 per cent, although it's doubtful that includes the many millions living in appallingly impoverished shantytowns.

But that hasn't stopped foreign investors who thought they were getting a bargain by snapping up beachfront apartments in Rio for between $US25,000 to $50,000, only to see their property values fall even lower.

9. Nuts and bikini wax. The country is named after the nut. The name comes from brazilwood trees and was chosen by the Portuguese in 1494.

The bikini wax was created by four Brazilian sisters who opened a beauty salon in New York. Their radical wax gained popularity among formerly hairy Manhattan trendsetters and became a global phenomenon.

10. They are the Collingwood of South America. Other South Americans regard Brazilians as a race apart. Although they are the only Portuguese speakers on the continent, their use of the language makes it the eighth most spoken in the world. Although Brazilians can understand some Spanish, the other South Americans claim not to understand anything the Brazilians say.

Wow, Brazilians are ego-centric nazi-and criminal supporters? We are not first world, true, but come on, aussies, this is striking below the waistline.

To the aussies on this board... is this a respectbale australian newspaper? Does it have a history of prejudice in it's reports? Because I don't know how else to call this...

Regards :).
 
The Age is a fairly laughable rag, along the lines of the Grauniad in Blighty.

Methinks it was very much in jest; it is certainly not on the level of the British newspaper reactions to the 2004 US election. It is more from the traditional of giving the opposition a bit of a raspberry, similar to what the English and Australian press do every Ashes series.

Furthermore, the Age would never think of saying bad things about other countries, not unless they were the US or Britain.

It is a laugh, nothing meant by it, that is my view. The good old Australian tradition of taking the urine.
I can't say that there is a lot of interest in the soccer outside of the ethnic television station and the communities of New Australians in their areas of the big cities.
 
Ah, let them have their fun. We're just going to have to beat them by 4 goals then
 
Stranger things have happened in the clash of languages, such as when Xerxes thought that Leonidas was merely offering him some complimentary melon labels.
 
Well, I haven't decided wheter I take that seriously or not. I don't know anything about that newspaper.

That report DID show up in our own news here, hence I'm asking...
 
It is a gag/joke piece to try and spruik up interest for the game among the ambivalent populace; the newspaper in question is not known for its sense of humour, except accidentally, although the 10th point is fair.

There, that is the best and clearest I can come up with for now; the lads are still waterboarding and jump starting old Carmel, so a full signed confession is still a few hours off.
 
I don't think the 10 point is fair. We have an unique language, true, butr we could not choose who colonized us, could we? And it is certainly not true that populations sees us as people apart - in fact, we are rather welcome in all other nations, and renowed as gregarious people in South America just like anywhere selse in the world.

I mean, even in Argentina, our traditional arch-rivals, people will invite us to sit at their tables when they learn we are Brazilians.

It is true, however, that we generally understand spanish better than they understand portuguese...
 
Australia is a country where one state calls the other "Cockroaches" and the other state calls the other "Canetoads" over a rugby tournament (it's not a serious hatred/rivalry. More in fun). And one of our ex-PMs called the country "The Arse-end of nowhere". The point being Aussies tend to be extremely blunt speakers, and this tends to show up both in the humour and the nastiness. A few years back one of the most popular politicians was accused of being a "media whore" and he happily agreed with this description. Another example is a recent exchange in the Aussie Parliament where the Health Minister called an opposition politician "a snivelling grub" and when asked to withdraw his remark stated something like "if it offends grubs then I withdraw the remark." This can have its advantages. Hiddink once said that Australians don't have what in his country are called "long toes" so he's not afraid to offend Australians by stepping on them. And it has its disadvantages - when you don't mind having your toes stepped on a lot it's hard to understand that other people might be offended.

The Age is a left-wing paper. If this was about the US, yes it would be serious. About Brazil - probably not.

Still, I don't think the article was all that funny. Still I think it's obvious it's a joke. Just look at item 1: "They are better than us." "They are bigger than us." "Brazilian authorities even allowed him to corrupt those nice young Sex Pistols by recording a video with them in the late 1970s." This is just a really bad attempt at humour. Still, be thankful they didn't give Brazil a nickname.

The other thing is there is something in the Australia character that really really likes being the underdogs. They love to be underestimated, insulted by being told the "little boys should go home" and in the end slaying giants. England was a prime target for giant slaying in the past (look up the history of the Ashes). I sense something of this attitude in the article. Australians love to make fun of Goliaths because they see themselves as the eternal David. Brazil is Goliath in soccer so...
 
The article isn't that good, but the 10th point's humour rests not at all on the language, merely the association with Collingwood, an AFL team in Melbourne.

As said, the Age is not known for a sense of humour, nor for any sort of common sense - the editor got his knickers in a big knot when Douglas Wood described his Iraqi kidnappers in unflattering terms. Do us a favour, send them a complaint so we can watch them commit horrified seppuku upon the altar of cultural discourse.

None of it is meant to be fair, nor at all evenhanded in treatment. It is a piece taking the piss, as we often do, and not meant for Brazilian consumption. Certainly, the language differences and the lack of similar grounding in cultural references is what would cause pertubation.

But if you wish to take it seriously, then spend as much of your life agonizing over it as you wish. You've got your answer from a couple of Australians, as requested.
 
The final triumph in the World Cup will belong to Brazil...

But I don't care who wins, as long as it is not Engerland!

I wish them total disgrace and defeat...!

:D
 
It looks a joke to me, but I still must point out that there are many factual inaccuracies in the article.

1-The Amazon is not the lungs of the world.
2- "Neo-Nazi" violence in São Paulo is rare, very few people were actually killed
3- São Paulo does not have the highest per capita murder rate in the world (Caracas for exemple is much worse, but would a left-wing newspaper point that out?)
4-The murder rate of São Paulo is of 35 per 100,000 not 66.
5-We're an excellent investment. Foreign investors are making fortunes here since at least 1993.
6-Beach houses in Rio for 25,000 to 50,000 USD? The guy who wrote this is obviously on crack.
7-Real state prices in Rio have risen steadily in the last 2 decades.

Point 10 is entirely correct, though. We are different from the rest of SA, and thanks God for that.
 
Egad.
"This is what Saturday nights would have been like if the Nazi's had won the war." (Raoul Duke)

A surreal quote from a surreal gent in a surreal book/film, quite like our surreal thingy here, arguing the facts with a joke article. It is a vapid imitation of the Onion, not even worthy of molehill status.
 
This is the face of modern day CFC, Simon.

A monumental debate over infinitesimal minutae...

Well, just like the old CFC really, only minus AoA.

:)
 
No, back in the day, there was a standard of wit, wordplay and whiplash, as well as a different clientele, and certainly people were able to see a joke or a hoax. Sometimes even get it.

And of course, back in the ages of yore, I was in front of you in posts. Led the site for some time. Ah, such is life. Fresh prisoner?
 
Simon Darkshade said:
No, back in the day, there was a standard of wit, wordplay and whiplash, as well as a different clientele, and certainly people were able to see a joke or a hoax. Sometimes even get it.

And of course, back in the ages of yore, I was in front of you in posts. Led the site for some time. Ah, such is life. Fresh prisoner?

Ah, the bygone days of archiac splendour!
The plots for world dominion, the frying of the communists, the Wagnerian marches into the ban-box!
Indeed, in antediluvian days, the idea of 10,000 posts seemed a far off thing. How it has all changed.

But then there still is sport here to be found, among the little folk...And at
least most of the commies have died out! Replaced with impuissant militants.

I'll have a prisoner, but make it a dwarf-sized one, I'm stuffed.

:D
 
Ah yes, the malevolent Mephistophelean machinations of the past, when people actually got the Ancient Greek references, and there were many kamerads.

The passing of the hard reds is good, but these new one's don't scream as nicely.

Very well. One Ronnie Corbett sized prisoner coming right up!
 
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