Bad Ronald's Custom Colors and Flags
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Absolutely AWESOME!
But I will combine some of the flags from the standard mod and some from the expansion pack, and with the standard Civ4 Roman flag. I also love the new colors.
But I will combine some of the flags from the standard mod and some from the expansion pack, and with the standard Civ4 Roman flag. I also love the new colors.
mrkhubbard
Chieftain
mrkhubbard
Chieftain
Spearhavoc
Chieftain
WaxonWaxov said:
In 1603 Elizabeth I died without direct heirs. Her cousin James VI (not VII) ascended the throne of England to become James I.
The two countries remained separate until the the Act of Union (1707) during the reign of Queen Anne. It was at this point that the Union FLAG, combining the saltire of St. Andrew and the cross of St. George , was devised.
Only when flown on sea-going vessels are flags referred to as "jacks".
The red and white saltire of St. Patrick was added to the Union FLAG in 1801 due to the 1801 Act of Union that united the United Kindom of Great Britain with Ireland. At this point the country became known as the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland.
This remained in place until 1921 when after years of treasonable revolution (included the utterly vile and despicable Easter Rising of 1916) 26 of the 32 counties of Ireland were permitted to withdraw from the Union. These 26 counties became known as the Irish Free State. The six remaining loyal counties became, and still are, known as Northern Ireland. The country was renamed to "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland". This is the name that remains today; it is the longest official country name in the world. The form of the Union FLAG did not change, and remains as it was modified in 1801.
As a side note: the 6 counties of Northern Ireland are sometimes, erroneously, referred to as "Ulster". Ulster is one of the four ancient kingdoms of Ireland (the others being Munster, Leinster and Connaught) and it comprises 9 of the 32 counties (Antrim, Down, Tyrone, Fermanagh, Londonderry, Armagh, Donegal, Monaghan, Cavan). The first six in the list comprise Northern Ireland, the last three are part of what is now known as the "Republic of Ireland".
Clear as crystal?
bad_ronald
All Knowing
I don't think that Blue Marble is the problem; I'm also using it. The only way another mod could cause a problem is if it also modifies the xml files that I've changed. What else have you installed?Commish said:
@mrkhubbard,
The Nazi flag is neither suitable for the German leaders in the game nor is it the modern flag of Germany (which I included just for the sake of those who prefer to have every nation represented this way), so I see no reason to offer it as an option for this mod. If you make a WWII scenario or a pack of WWII civs, then I would make flags for all of them.
R
Rabbit, White
Guest
Just put the flags you want in the ...\My Games\Civilization 4\CustomAssets\art\interface\teamcolor folder (or whatever your equivalent is).
bad_ronald
All Knowing
Yes, first, place all of the flags that you want to use in '%Your Documents Folder%\My Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\CustomAssets\art\interface\TeamColor\"whthehck said:
Next, copy 'C:\Program Files\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\assets\xml\art\Civ4ArtDefines_Civilization.xml' to '%Your Documents Folder%\My Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\CustomAssets\xml\art\'. Then, find the civ that you want to change within the xml file (you can open it with notepad) and change the last part of the <path> to the name of the file for the flag you want and change <bWhiteFlag>0</bWhiteFlag> to <bWhiteFlag>1</bWhiteFlag> (or else you'll get strange colors or nothing at all).
For example, after putting the American flag in the directory I just specified, change America's entry in the xml file to: <Path>Art/Interface/TeamColor/America.dds</Path> and <bWhiteFlag>1</bWhiteFlag>; this will give you the American flag from my mod only.
To change England's flag to the Union Jack, modify the path entry so that it reads: <Path>Art/Interface/TeamColor/UK.dds</Path> and once again <bWhiteFlag>1</bWhiteFlag> from <bWhiteFlag>0</bWhiteFlag>
jlwzap
Chieftain
aren't the The nazi's responsible for the Panzer tank? that is in the game, no-one complains about that. If someone wants to have the nazi flag on their Panzer tank unit, I don't see any problem w/ that. Saying the nazi flag is inapproiate in a GAME is really closed minded. you are putting your head in the sand and trying to ignore history.
Iluwen
Chieftain
Spearhavoc, do I get the impression that you are an Orangeman? Try to keep the following in mind:
1.)The British Government outlawed the United Irishman in 1791, despite the fact that their stated goal was merely to bring together the divided Catholic and Protestant communities of Ireland, and make all equal under the law. (And they were mostly Protestants!)
2.)King Goerge utterly refused Pitt's suggestion for Catholic Emancipation after the United Irishmen Rising, disgusting staunchly loyal British subjects, such as the Marquis of Cornwallis, who resigned as Lord-Lieutenant of Ireland following this.
3.)The frighteningly anti-Irish attitude of British parliamentary conservatives in the period following the Napoleonic Wars, and the utterly reprehensible behavior of landowners such as the Beresfords, which set the stage for the Potato Famine, and then did nothing about it.
All these things set the the stage for the Easter Rising.
And what about the Black and Tans? the British government hardly showed themselves to be better, more civilized and decent by any means.
I can claim direct line of descent from the original Richard, Earl of Clare "Strongbow", who first brought the Normans to Ireland. My ancestry is heavily English. (Nor do I advocate the IRA, who have been pansies since Michael Collins died.) But the pure cold fact of the matter is that if the British Government had not been blatantly unresponsive to the needs and problems of, and often heavily biased against their Irish subjects, the Easter Rebellion might not have happened at all, and Ireland might still be part of the United Kingdom, an entity whcih, despite all of the above repression, most Irish people were loyal subjects of, with nearly 40% of the British Army being Irish at any given time throughout the 18th and 19th Centuries.
For Mysterio10000:
YTou said the Nazis had "ZERO" good points: that is in fact not accurate. They would never have achieved the popularity that they did in Weimar Germany (which was a very well educated and literate society), had that been true. Amongst the good things that they did:
1.)Thier ideal of "Volksgemeinschaft", a classless society, which they did a lot to implement, opening up the higher positions of the government and military to the middle and lower classes, and speading the idea that there was no shame in blue collar work, both through the media, (Ppropoganda), and through organizations such as the Labour Service, which gave many Germans from all walks of life a taste of manual labour, and a new appreciation for it.
2.)They raised German minimum wage, and made it mandatory for German companies to provide high school education for employees who had none, at a time when, in sophisticated countries like the UK, many people in the lower class began work at 14, having never really gotten more than a primary eduaction, and not ever getting the opportunity to do so.
3.)They passed basic laws against animal cruelty which became the model for similar laws all across the European Union today.
4.)They emphasised the rights of children and teenagers in a way which most modern countries still don't do, giving them a voice for the first time, and exposing many kinds of abuse that previously were ignored or disbelieved.
5.)They man they picked as head of the police (not Himmler, who was just titular head, I mean his deputy, Heydrich.) was so good at his job that he was made President of Interpol, and remained the head of this international organization even while WWI was raging. Of course, he also headed the team that drew up and implemented the plans for the Holocaust...
(And yes, technically, he was just head of the Security Police, which was the SD, Gestapo and Kripo, but since the Gestapo and Kripo (Kriminalpolizei, or the detectives) did all the real police work, with the Orpo (Ordnungspolizei) being little more than traffic cops and riot control, he was head of the police in all wasy that mattered. He also introduced the first health insurance program to Czech industries. (No, that is not a joke.)
6.)They formalized and expanded the whole social welfare system of modern Germany, introducing paid vacations, health insurance, expanding child labour laws, and trying, though the war screwed this up, to supply every German family with a car.
Was it all roses? Of course not. Did they do many horrible things? Certainly. But while the things they did don't stand much comparison to things like Bush's stance on stem cell research, they do bear remarkable similarity to the Roman habit of enslaving peoples who fought against them, or for example, Roman behaviour during the whole Bodicea episode in Britain, which was utterly sordid from beginning to end. But nobody goes around saying the Romans had no redeeming qualities, do they? And the Aztecs and Incas and their sacrifices? The Athenian habit of feeding female children less, and giving them grossly inferior education? The Chinese and their infanticide, and mutilation of women's feet? The Arabs and North African Moslems (Like the Mali), and their female circumcision? Yet we call these great civilzations, and put them in these games because of the things they did accomplish, in spite of their many nauseating habits. They only thing that really sets the Nazis apart is that they came along late enough in history, with enough technology and advancement, that they could enact their nasty habits on a scale that these older civilizations could'nt match, just as their armies, their cities, and so forth, were correspondingly bigger. Furthermore, their evil deeds still pale in comparsion to the Soviets, and nobody has a fit about using Soviet stuff do they?
I say this, while being, myself, totally disgusted by the sexist stance of National Socialism, which, is, in my opinion a total betrayal of the ancient Germanic heritage they claimed to uphold, among other things.
(I miight add though, that, despite being total pigs in the way they treated women, they treated them a lot better than almost ANY of the celebrated ancient civilizations like Romans, Greeks (except maybe Spartans), etc.)
I do not advocate them, nor do I pretend that they did not enact evil on a great scale, but let us be realistic and historically objective, shall we? There are few absolutes amongst humans, very little black and white, pure examples of good and evil. Evrery civilxation and culture has been a shade of grey, and it would behoove us to bear that in mind.
By the way, I agree with BadRonald's stance that there is no need for a Nazi era flag. That spanned a mere twelve years of Germany's history, and everything they did and accomplished was certainly built upon older foundations. (For example, contrary to popular belief, the Nazis' contribution to the German military was practically nil, the mighty Wehrmacht having been fashioned, in all the ways that mattered on the battlefield, by the German General Staff in the very liberal and intellectual traditions of Scharnhorst and the Reformers. If anything, the Nazis ran the German military into the ground with all their duplication of function in the Luftwaffe and SS, Hitler's absurd strategic concpets and operational meddling, and so forth.) Their flag thus is hardly representative of Germany as a civilization. Frederick the Great and Bismarck really built Germany as we know it. The Nazis just inherited the family car, so to speak, polished it up, tuned it up, and then crashed it.
1.)The British Government outlawed the United Irishman in 1791, despite the fact that their stated goal was merely to bring together the divided Catholic and Protestant communities of Ireland, and make all equal under the law. (And they were mostly Protestants!)
2.)King Goerge utterly refused Pitt's suggestion for Catholic Emancipation after the United Irishmen Rising, disgusting staunchly loyal British subjects, such as the Marquis of Cornwallis, who resigned as Lord-Lieutenant of Ireland following this.
3.)The frighteningly anti-Irish attitude of British parliamentary conservatives in the period following the Napoleonic Wars, and the utterly reprehensible behavior of landowners such as the Beresfords, which set the stage for the Potato Famine, and then did nothing about it.
All these things set the the stage for the Easter Rising.
And what about the Black and Tans? the British government hardly showed themselves to be better, more civilized and decent by any means.
I can claim direct line of descent from the original Richard, Earl of Clare "Strongbow", who first brought the Normans to Ireland. My ancestry is heavily English. (Nor do I advocate the IRA, who have been pansies since Michael Collins died.) But the pure cold fact of the matter is that if the British Government had not been blatantly unresponsive to the needs and problems of, and often heavily biased against their Irish subjects, the Easter Rebellion might not have happened at all, and Ireland might still be part of the United Kingdom, an entity whcih, despite all of the above repression, most Irish people were loyal subjects of, with nearly 40% of the British Army being Irish at any given time throughout the 18th and 19th Centuries.
For Mysterio10000:
YTou said the Nazis had "ZERO" good points: that is in fact not accurate. They would never have achieved the popularity that they did in Weimar Germany (which was a very well educated and literate society), had that been true. Amongst the good things that they did:
1.)Thier ideal of "Volksgemeinschaft", a classless society, which they did a lot to implement, opening up the higher positions of the government and military to the middle and lower classes, and speading the idea that there was no shame in blue collar work, both through the media, (Ppropoganda), and through organizations such as the Labour Service, which gave many Germans from all walks of life a taste of manual labour, and a new appreciation for it.
2.)They raised German minimum wage, and made it mandatory for German companies to provide high school education for employees who had none, at a time when, in sophisticated countries like the UK, many people in the lower class began work at 14, having never really gotten more than a primary eduaction, and not ever getting the opportunity to do so.
3.)They passed basic laws against animal cruelty which became the model for similar laws all across the European Union today.
4.)They emphasised the rights of children and teenagers in a way which most modern countries still don't do, giving them a voice for the first time, and exposing many kinds of abuse that previously were ignored or disbelieved.
5.)They man they picked as head of the police (not Himmler, who was just titular head, I mean his deputy, Heydrich.) was so good at his job that he was made President of Interpol, and remained the head of this international organization even while WWI was raging. Of course, he also headed the team that drew up and implemented the plans for the Holocaust...
(And yes, technically, he was just head of the Security Police, which was the SD, Gestapo and Kripo, but since the Gestapo and Kripo (Kriminalpolizei, or the detectives) did all the real police work, with the Orpo (Ordnungspolizei) being little more than traffic cops and riot control, he was head of the police in all wasy that mattered. He also introduced the first health insurance program to Czech industries. (No, that is not a joke.)
6.)They formalized and expanded the whole social welfare system of modern Germany, introducing paid vacations, health insurance, expanding child labour laws, and trying, though the war screwed this up, to supply every German family with a car.
Was it all roses? Of course not. Did they do many horrible things? Certainly. But while the things they did don't stand much comparison to things like Bush's stance on stem cell research, they do bear remarkable similarity to the Roman habit of enslaving peoples who fought against them, or for example, Roman behaviour during the whole Bodicea episode in Britain, which was utterly sordid from beginning to end. But nobody goes around saying the Romans had no redeeming qualities, do they? And the Aztecs and Incas and their sacrifices? The Athenian habit of feeding female children less, and giving them grossly inferior education? The Chinese and their infanticide, and mutilation of women's feet? The Arabs and North African Moslems (Like the Mali), and their female circumcision? Yet we call these great civilzations, and put them in these games because of the things they did accomplish, in spite of their many nauseating habits. They only thing that really sets the Nazis apart is that they came along late enough in history, with enough technology and advancement, that they could enact their nasty habits on a scale that these older civilizations could'nt match, just as their armies, their cities, and so forth, were correspondingly bigger. Furthermore, their evil deeds still pale in comparsion to the Soviets, and nobody has a fit about using Soviet stuff do they?
I say this, while being, myself, totally disgusted by the sexist stance of National Socialism, which, is, in my opinion a total betrayal of the ancient Germanic heritage they claimed to uphold, among other things.
(I miight add though, that, despite being total pigs in the way they treated women, they treated them a lot better than almost ANY of the celebrated ancient civilizations like Romans, Greeks (except maybe Spartans), etc.)
I do not advocate them, nor do I pretend that they did not enact evil on a great scale, but let us be realistic and historically objective, shall we? There are few absolutes amongst humans, very little black and white, pure examples of good and evil. Evrery civilxation and culture has been a shade of grey, and it would behoove us to bear that in mind.
By the way, I agree with BadRonald's stance that there is no need for a Nazi era flag. That spanned a mere twelve years of Germany's history, and everything they did and accomplished was certainly built upon older foundations. (For example, contrary to popular belief, the Nazis' contribution to the German military was practically nil, the mighty Wehrmacht having been fashioned, in all the ways that mattered on the battlefield, by the German General Staff in the very liberal and intellectual traditions of Scharnhorst and the Reformers. If anything, the Nazis ran the German military into the ground with all their duplication of function in the Luftwaffe and SS, Hitler's absurd strategic concpets and operational meddling, and so forth.) Their flag thus is hardly representative of Germany as a civilization. Frederick the Great and Bismarck really built Germany as we know it. The Nazis just inherited the family car, so to speak, polished it up, tuned it up, and then crashed it.
Houman
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Hello,
I have a problem with this mod. It works fine with a generated map. But as soon as i try to use a customized map that has been modified before with the Worldbuilder, I don't see the new flags at all.
Could it be that Worldbuilder stores the colors and flags of each player in the map file? How can I solve this issue?
Any idea?
Thanks
Houman
I have a problem with this mod. It works fine with a generated map. But as soon as i try to use a customized map that has been modified before with the Worldbuilder, I don't see the new flags at all.
Could it be that Worldbuilder stores the colors and flags of each player in the map file? How can I solve this issue?
Any idea?
Thanks
Houman
Houman
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I tried it with different maps. All the realism World maps have the same problem. The old color and flags seem to be stored in the map file. But if I start a new game from a generated map, eveything is fine. 
How can this be?
Anyone else with this experience please?
Thanks
Houman
How can this be?Anyone else with this experience please?
Thanks
Houman
parachute4u
Warlord
German history can be a little bit "complicated" at times. The black-white-red flag, the prussian king used after forcing the german states to form an empire under prussian leadership was NOT the thing the 19th century revolutioniaries (that had used the black-red-golden flag) had hoped for. It represents a political system that is centralized, militaristic, imperialistic, nationalist and supressive.bad_ronald said:Expansion pack is now up in the first post.
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@Cortilein,
Thank you for your translation of the German article, ... I included the red, white, and black tricolor because it fits best with Bismark and the German civ color (gray). However, the modern German flag is now an option in the expansion pack, so I hope this satisfies everyone.
Black-white-red is Bismarck's flag though, that's right. So it is the obvious choice for a civ, that is represented by him. He's more prussian than german however. Personally I don't know, why Firaxis has chosen him and/or Frederik as leaders. Most of german history took part, when prussian people did not even speak german properly.
parachute4u
Warlord
Iluwen said:
The thing that sets them apart is, that they are a political party, not a civilization. A political party of individuals, that got elected and tried to change the system that elected them (e.g. western civilization). They did suceed on a national scale, altering the political system, that gave them power, but they had to change the whole world, to be able to stay in power. These people lost their war against ideas, e.g. western civilization, that threatened their power. The point is: They tried to be something different than Germany. But they failed. That is the difference to any group of people promoting any kind of ideas and succeeding, thus forming a line of tradition, that is called a civilization in a cultural-historical context.
They did have an impact, however. People were forced to say no to many of their ideas. Had they only had ideas, that are implemented in today's laws and constitutions, they would not have lost (or fought) that war.
PS There is no deed that is evil. And if you choose to call it evil, how can it be pale? - How can death be pale? How can agony be pale?
Iluwen
Chieftain
parachute4u said:
Prussian and German certainly aren;t identical things, however, I think that their choice of leaders does make sense. Frederick the Great set the stage for German unification. The military reputation he created during his reign, and even the military-state he managed to consolidate, became a rallying point for Germans against French aggression and domination. In his own era, he became the only state with the military might to defeat the French. With Rossbach (1757), his Prussia became something of a leader amongst the northern protestant German states, excepting Hanover, which was tied to England by their common ruler. In the Napoleonic era, Prussia's army allowed it to assume the role on a broader scale. The only alternative to a leader amongst the German states was Austria, which as becomeing weaker and less German steadily through the 19th century.
And of course, Bismarck's Prussia unified Germany, perhaps not in the best, most ideal manner, but unified it nonetheless. (And show me a national unification that was done in an ideal manner.)
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