And with another boring English speaking White male Prime Minister as its leader?
They should just make it a DLC. Chateau de Frontenac is still not confirmed as a wonder. It hasn't appeared in game screenshots yet, only a promotional poster.
So did the crown of Silla... And still people count Korea in.
I don't think Native Americans are being added to the game. Not anymore. They likely will not give Firaxis permission to use their languages or leaders. Also, people don't think they were Civilized.
Neither Congolese nor Scythians were a lot more civilized than them....
I don't support such choices, but this is absolutely not against the developers' policy.
That's what they do in regions where civilization was a late discovery. They'll never add the early Hallstatt culture of Central Europe, for example.
I would appreciate it if some posters would stop bashing Canada. I wouldn’t be upset if Canada was not included but the insulting language and vitriol directed towards my native land is a bit much. This has been going on since cIV. *sigh*
Canada would be an excellent choice and I’d be proud to play them if there finally a Civ in the game.
I hope you don't really mean that. You should not wish to involve your own national feelings in the developing decisions.
I expect them to never include Israel (the current, Zionist form) in the game and it is not an insult - just awareness of us being not a really important or influential culture or state in the world. And the lack of a great leader to represent us
I don't understand why everyone's convinced the Chateau means Canada will be in. Alhambra, Chichen Itza, Potala Palace, Petra, the Hanging Gardens, and the Venetian Arsenal are all heavily associated with a civilization that isn't present in the game. The simplest explanation is they simply wanted a unique looking wonder with unique bonuses from a different part of the world, and the Frontenac satisfies that criteria. I mean, sure, it makes Canada more likely, but they are far from a given.
Personally I'd be quite annoyed if Canada got in over civilizations like the Maya & Inca, not to mention the rest of the Precolumbian Americas which hardly ever get much representation.
Do other pre-Columbian American civilizations really deserve more representation?
They have to thank us for elevating them to the level of being named a civilization, in first place.
They were not more significant and important than other pre-Indo-European tribes of Europe, or Iron Age Numidians, pre-Median people of Iran, and not to mention Indus-Valley cultures.
If some of those regions and ethnicities would have not had a much more prominent civilized future, would you include them? Better do so before you include some pre-Columbian tribes.
This is merely your American Centrism and White Guilt combined
But I think if Canada was introduced perhaps focusing on our French Colonial past, that may be the best way to have a Canadian Civ. It does set us apart from the other colonial nations as there haven't truly been former French colonies in the game.
Now you're talking!
I would not be totally against having such a Canadian civ.
I'm feeling a bit let down on the alternative leaders. It was a feature many people were happy to see again, yet so far they only launched one alternative leader, with plans for one more in the expansion. I would've expected more, especially since it would allow them to put more controversial/less known leaders while still pleasing players who want to see old fan favorites return.
(Also I really want Getúlio Vargas for Brazil and if they don't decide to do more alternative chances the slim chance of this happening gets even slimmer)
Really? Is Brazil where you want to waste a second leader on?
You have cultures with way more diverse history. A second Chinese leader could be of Tang, Han or even People's Republic.
Would a civilization designed to thrive off of creating and winning emergency scenarios be interesting? It would be fun to cause chaos everywhere, but it might just be begging to get slaughtered by a coalition.
Who would fit this, anyways? Zulu? Emergencies for invading nearby free cities? I don't know, it's a shot in the dark.
Sounds like Napoleon.
Or a Mongol horde arriving at West Asia... Or Bolivar starting to shake things up in South America...
Quite an interesting point you have there.
I know that this is probably unlikely but...... I Really want the alternate leader to be FDR.
I mean think about he led America through the majority of the Great Depression (whatever you think of the new deal) and led America for the longest time of any presidents. He brought America from the Dark Age of the great depression to A GLORIOUS HEROIC AGE of America after world war 2.
I hope they don't fall into this bait of leaders that fit too well into R&F but add nothing to the game in terms of historical diversity...
At the the end of
PCGamer's interview, the author asks Frederiksen for a "hint at all what part of the world any of the new civs might be coming for [sic], to which he responded: “The Land.”
I'm thinking this was a subtle clue. What Civilizations have referred to their territories as merely "The Land" in their native tongue?
Some civilizations named their territories "the peoples' land".
Germany, Sumerians...
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