Bede04C-The Griddle (C3C1.22Emperor)
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M60A3TTS
Ex-treadhead
I'd finish the French off. They're easy meat with an AC Army. Small stuff, but I'd do library, then colliseum. 3 vs 2 cpt, and the library's cheaper. Heroic Epic is 4cpt in 6 turns @ 34spt, so I wouldn't discount getting that started as soon as we can get the AC Army into gear, unless we want to use HE for a Sistine prebuild. Note Amsterdam is @ 33spt, could be bumped to 37. That would about take us to within a couple turns of the end of the GA.
If I am reading this correctly, you are suggesting we rush the ToA or Sun Tzu's with the leader. If so then I should remind you we are playingel filet said:
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so leaders cannot rush great wonders.An AC army is definitely a good thing.
150BC-50AD
M60 and el_filet left a pile of cash and a Golden Age.
Spent the horde o'gold rushing libraires everywhere to take advantage of the GA gpt gains in science and set a course to Theology at maximum to get rid of the rest of it. Built an army of AC's but failed to take Paris on the first try. Started Great Lighthouse at Amsterdam to pre-build for Heroic Epic. First Army victory came at the just the right time, thanks to a lonely French archer and swapped the build to HE at no loss, then back to Lighthouse waiting for Monotheism, then Cathedral due now in 2, with Theology due in three. There will be ~150 shields in the bin towards the 600 shield Chapel and Amsterdam is making 38spt during the GA, and 26 after so Amsterdam is about 16 turns out if we use the shields from the cathedral.
Right now it looks like 20K in 2004 (t494)
Joan will give up two cities for peace if we want to let her live yet awhile. The second city is across the straits from Chartres.
I sent a galley to scout that coast just like the bear that went over the mountain.
I have dispatched a small force to take a closer look at the Iroquois ville north of Lyons and to be ready when it grows to 2. Hiawatha has a settler and a sword inbound towards Caesaraugusta and Rome and the Celts are at war.
Paris will be a nice place to put the FP once it finishes its marketplace.
Doing a little resource check it looks like no one on this continent, at least, has any iron, except the Iro and the Inca
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el_filet
Bede
M60 and el_filet left a pile of cash and a Golden Age.
Spent the horde o'gold rushing libraires everywhere to take advantage of the GA gpt gains in science and set a course to Theology at maximum to get rid of the rest of it. Built an army of AC's but failed to take Paris on the first try. Started Great Lighthouse at Amsterdam to pre-build for Heroic Epic. First Army victory came at the just the right time, thanks to a lonely French archer and swapped the build to HE at no loss, then back to Lighthouse waiting for Monotheism, then Cathedral due now in 2, with Theology due in three. There will be ~150 shields in the bin towards the 600 shield Chapel and Amsterdam is making 38spt during the GA, and 26 after so Amsterdam is about 16 turns out if we use the shields from the cathedral.
Right now it looks like 20K in 2004 (t494)
Joan will give up two cities for peace if we want to let her live yet awhile. The second city is across the straits from Chartres.
I sent a galley to scout that coast just like the bear that went over the mountain.
I have dispatched a small force to take a closer look at the Iroquois ville north of Lyons and to be ready when it grows to 2. Hiawatha has a settler and a sword inbound towards Caesaraugusta and Rome and the Celts are at war.
Paris will be a nice place to put the FP once it finishes its marketplace.
Doing a little resource check it looks like no one on this continent, at least, has any iron, except the Iro and the Inca
Rota check:
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Zakharov - on deck
M60
el_filet
Bede
M60A3TTS
Ex-treadhead
Bede said:
Actually Theology is due in two, so as soon as the science advisor reports Theo in, next up will need to do a big picture cut-in to the domestic advisor-Amsterdam queue and swap out to Sistine's. Either that or just cut over to a great wonder now.
el_filet
Prince
@zakharov: i played to much GOTM this weekend. 
let's grab some of these MA wonders. sistine seems to be ours. best wonders are cop, bach, shake & newton. suggest we go for cop->shake->newton (after sistine, maybe rushed cath; is that too ambitous?). we probably need to delay reasearch for that after theology is in.
@next player: i inteded to build some embassies but forgot. maybe you can correct that
let's grab some of these MA wonders. sistine seems to be ours. best wonders are cop, bach, shake & newton. suggest we go for cop->shake->newton (after sistine, maybe rushed cath; is that too ambitous?). we probably need to delay reasearch for that after theology is in.
@next player: i inteded to build some embassies but forgot. maybe you can correct that
Firstly I must apologise for a 
move. After Theology came in I researched Education forgetting we had the GLib. Playing more than one SG can be confusing sometimes. My thought process at the time was to head for music theory and get Bach's.
However, we are still 1 turn away from it so we can still shut off research. We have a monopoly on Theology still so we could wait and see if gunpowder comes in via the GLib before completing Education.
50(0)- I switch Amsterdam to Glight so it can switch to Sistine's. The cathedral can be rushed later.
I decide not to get peace with the French just yet as I would rather their capital was Grenoble - in the tundra.
IBT- Athens(Greek) builds the GW
70(1)- AC army defeats spear and takes Avignon + 4 slaves > Harbour.
Their capital is now Grenoble. I sign peace and get Amiens + 1g. See you in 20 turns.
Amiens > warrior. This town is a useful link to the other continent.
IBT- Theology > Education in 7.
Rheims, Horseman > Courthouse
Rouen, Barracks > Spearman
90(2)- Amsterdam switched to Sistine Chapel.
IBT- Chartres, Aqueduct > Library.
Machu Picchu (Incan) builds GLight.
110(3)/130(4)- zzz
IBT- Paris, Market > FP
Marseilles, Granary > Aqueduct
150(5)- Our GA has ended.
170(6)- I have to MM Paris for extra shields and no growth so that lux can stay at 10%. It can grow again when the FP is done.
Science to 50%, Education in 5, +19gpt.
IBT- Rouen, Spear > Spear
Amiens, Warrior > Worker
190(7)- zzz
IBT- Celts and Romans sign peace.
Dijon, Barracks > Spear
3 civs have Invention.
210(8)- zzz
IBT- Invention from the GLib.
Entremont (Celts) builds Sun Tzu's
2 civs have Chivalry
230(9)- Lyons switches from Sun Tzu's to Leo's
IBT- Chivalry from GLib
Cuzco (Incan) builds Leo's.
250(10)- Lyons switched to KT.
Notes:
Education in 1 @ 50%, +17gpt. It would probably be best to switch off research and hope for Gunpowder from the GLib. We still have a monopoly on Theology. When something happens we can put research back on and head for Music Theory.
I have left some workers and an AC with moves. Ship the AC over to Amiens?
The Iroquois town N of Dijon is still size 1, even with the cow. It probably built a worker which is in the town doing nothing due to our troops being camped outside.
The Iroquois settler pair went to that town and got in a galley to the other continent. It is just NW of Amiens.
Sistine Chapel in 7 (Amsterdam), FP in 12 (Paris), KT in 5 (Lyons). Lyons will waste a lot of shields if another civ builds KT first.
There is a Iroquois group of swords heading along the mountains W of Paris. Should we send the army over there to deal with them?
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move. After Theology came in I researched Education forgetting we had the GLib. Playing more than one SG can be confusing sometimes. My thought process at the time was to head for music theory and get Bach's.However, we are still 1 turn away from it so we can still shut off research. We have a monopoly on Theology still so we could wait and see if gunpowder comes in via the GLib before completing Education.
50(0)- I switch Amsterdam to Glight so it can switch to Sistine's. The cathedral can be rushed later.
I decide not to get peace with the French just yet as I would rather their capital was Grenoble - in the tundra.
IBT- Athens(Greek) builds the GW
70(1)- AC army defeats spear and takes Avignon + 4 slaves > Harbour.
Their capital is now Grenoble. I sign peace and get Amiens + 1g. See you in 20 turns.
Amiens > warrior. This town is a useful link to the other continent.
IBT- Theology > Education in 7.
Rheims, Horseman > Courthouse
Rouen, Barracks > Spearman
90(2)- Amsterdam switched to Sistine Chapel.
IBT- Chartres, Aqueduct > Library.
Machu Picchu (Incan) builds GLight.
110(3)/130(4)- zzz
IBT- Paris, Market > FP
Marseilles, Granary > Aqueduct
150(5)- Our GA has ended.
170(6)- I have to MM Paris for extra shields and no growth so that lux can stay at 10%. It can grow again when the FP is done.
Science to 50%, Education in 5, +19gpt.
IBT- Rouen, Spear > Spear
Amiens, Warrior > Worker
190(7)- zzz
IBT- Celts and Romans sign peace.
Dijon, Barracks > Spear
3 civs have Invention.
210(8)- zzz
IBT- Invention from the GLib.
Entremont (Celts) builds Sun Tzu's
2 civs have Chivalry
230(9)- Lyons switches from Sun Tzu's to Leo's
IBT- Chivalry from GLib
Cuzco (Incan) builds Leo's.
250(10)- Lyons switched to KT.
Notes:
Education in 1 @ 50%, +17gpt. It would probably be best to switch off research and hope for Gunpowder from the GLib. We still have a monopoly on Theology. When something happens we can put research back on and head for Music Theory.
I have left some workers and an AC with moves. Ship the AC over to Amiens?
The Iroquois town N of Dijon is still size 1, even with the cow. It probably built a worker which is in the town doing nothing due to our troops being camped outside.
The Iroquois settler pair went to that town and got in a galley to the other continent. It is just NW of Amiens.
Sistine Chapel in 7 (Amsterdam), FP in 12 (Paris), KT in 5 (Lyons). Lyons will waste a lot of shields if another civ builds KT first.
There is a Iroquois group of swords heading along the mountains W of Paris. Should we send the army over there to deal with them?
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Ex-treadhead
The save at 350AD
Preturn: Education on hold, move army out to deal with Iroquois intruders.
IBT- Tours library>aqueduct. 2 reg Iroquois swords next to Paris
Turn 1 (260AD) Army dispatches the first sword. Attack with elite AC and Willem Jansz appears from the melee.
Forms another AC army. Double Jeopardy, Mister Hiawatha. Now how much would you care to wager? Army immediately kills another reg sword.
IBT- Marseilles aqueduct>rax. Chartres library>horse. Dijon spear>granary.
Turn 2 (270AD) With 2 cav armies and not a legion in sight, I cant pass this up, its just too good to just wait on Rome to get stronger. Head up to the Roman border. Embassy in Entremont. 3 reg pikes and a worker. Building a treb. Iron, horse, and 3 lux.
IBT- Celts, Rome and Incas start Sistines.
Turn 3 (280AD) Declare on Rome. AC Army kills 2 reg spears, and Syracuse falls. No gold. Vet horse goes red vs vet archer who loses 2hp. Vet spear comes out of Tours and kills him, and promotes elite. Call Brennus and pay him 192g and 13gpt for an alliance against Rome. Brennus goes from annoyed to gracious.
IBT- Rouen spear>horse. Ameins worker>spear Syracuse riots.
Turn 4 (290AD) Kill 2 reg spears in Ravenna, but the AC army is down to 5, so move off to heal. Lyons needs an entertainer. Second AC army kills reg spear near Ravenna.
IBT- Lyons KT> worker. Celts, Incas building Sistines. Carthage finishes ToA.
Turn 5 (300AD) Vet horse goes red, kills Iro reg spear. AC army kills reg Roman LB, back to Syracuse to heal. 36 gold rushes a worker from Syracuse to bring it to pop 1.
IBT- Lyons worker>horse. Chartres horse>market. Syracuse worker>harbor. Everyone building Sistines, now due in 1. Iro land a reg archer by Amiens. We have reg warrior.
Turn 6 (310AD) Reg warrior kills reg archer @ Amiens.
IBT- Incas come calling for 47g. It wont break us, so ok. Youll get yours in the end.
Sistines in Amsterdam. Cathedral next. Marseilles rax>horse. About 4 Iro MI pass behind Ravenna.
Turn 7 (320AD) Elite AC kills Rome vet LB.
IBT- Lyons horse>horse. Iros look to be headed for Paris.
Turn 8 (330AD) Move up both healed AC Armies to Ravenna for attack next turn.
IBT- Besancon court>duct.
Turn 9 (340AD) Armies attack 3 reg spears at Ravenna size 9, and it falls with 3 resistors. Start worker there. The French have gunpowder, as do the Celts. We know what THAT means. 
IBT- France and Celts ally against Rome. Gunpowder in. Ravenna demonstrates, Lyons has its first crusader, and produces horse>horse. Rheims court>market.
Turn 10 (350AD) AC Army 16/16 up to Neapolis, size 4, reg spear shows. Second army @ 11/16 is a bit banged up, but move that adjacent too, capturing 2 more Roman workers. Two incense will be ours with Neapolis. Vet AC kills reg Rome LB vic Ravenna. AC kills barb warrior by Amiens. We can get peace with Iro for 40g, but Ill leave that up to next player. Ravenna gets a bunch of tax collectors.
Post turn, havent seen a single fast moving Roman unit, nor a single legion. Just tearing across the desert with our AC armies. No one is up any advances on us. No salt in the area, but some by Rome. Hard to believe this is emperor, seems more like chieftain. Didnt lose a single unit, have both Zeus and Templar, well on the way to 20k. Life is good!
Preturn: Education on hold, move army out to deal with Iroquois intruders.
IBT- Tours library>aqueduct. 2 reg Iroquois swords next to Paris
Turn 1 (260AD) Army dispatches the first sword. Attack with elite AC and Willem Jansz appears from the melee.
Forms another AC army. Double Jeopardy, Mister Hiawatha. Now how much would you care to wager? Army immediately kills another reg sword. IBT- Marseilles aqueduct>rax. Chartres library>horse. Dijon spear>granary.
Turn 2 (270AD) With 2 cav armies and not a legion in sight, I cant pass this up, its just too good to just wait on Rome to get stronger. Head up to the Roman border. Embassy in Entremont. 3 reg pikes and a worker. Building a treb. Iron, horse, and 3 lux.
IBT- Celts, Rome and Incas start Sistines.
Turn 3 (280AD) Declare on Rome. AC Army kills 2 reg spears, and Syracuse falls.
No gold. Vet horse goes red vs vet archer who loses 2hp. Vet spear comes out of Tours and kills him, and promotes elite. Call Brennus and pay him 192g and 13gpt for an alliance against Rome. Brennus goes from annoyed to gracious. IBT- Rouen spear>horse. Ameins worker>spear Syracuse riots.
Turn 4 (290AD) Kill 2 reg spears in Ravenna, but the AC army is down to 5, so move off to heal. Lyons needs an entertainer. Second AC army kills reg spear near Ravenna.
IBT- Lyons KT> worker. Celts, Incas building Sistines. Carthage finishes ToA.
Turn 5 (300AD) Vet horse goes red, kills Iro reg spear. AC army kills reg Roman LB, back to Syracuse to heal. 36 gold rushes a worker from Syracuse to bring it to pop 1.
IBT- Lyons worker>horse. Chartres horse>market. Syracuse worker>harbor. Everyone building Sistines, now due in 1. Iro land a reg archer by Amiens. We have reg warrior.
Turn 6 (310AD) Reg warrior kills reg archer @ Amiens.
IBT- Incas come calling for 47g. It wont break us, so ok. Youll get yours in the end.
Sistines in Amsterdam. Cathedral next. Marseilles rax>horse. About 4 Iro MI pass behind Ravenna. Turn 7 (320AD) Elite AC kills Rome vet LB.
IBT- Lyons horse>horse. Iros look to be headed for Paris.
Turn 8 (330AD) Move up both healed AC Armies to Ravenna for attack next turn.
IBT- Besancon court>duct.
Turn 9 (340AD) Armies attack 3 reg spears at Ravenna size 9, and it falls with 3 resistors.
Start worker there. The French have gunpowder, as do the Celts. We know what THAT means. IBT- France and Celts ally against Rome. Gunpowder in. Ravenna demonstrates, Lyons has its first crusader, and produces horse>horse. Rheims court>market.
Turn 10 (350AD) AC Army 16/16 up to Neapolis, size 4, reg spear shows. Second army @ 11/16 is a bit banged up, but move that adjacent too, capturing 2 more Roman workers. Two incense will be ours with Neapolis. Vet AC kills reg Rome LB vic Ravenna. AC kills barb warrior by Amiens. We can get peace with Iro for 40g, but Ill leave that up to next player. Ravenna gets a bunch of tax collectors.
Post turn, havent seen a single fast moving Roman unit, nor a single legion. Just tearing across the desert with our AC armies. No one is up any advances on us. No salt in the area, but some by Rome. Hard to believe this is emperor, seems more like chieftain. Didnt lose a single unit, have both Zeus and Templar, well on the way to 20k. Life is good!
M60A3TTS
Ex-treadhead
Field marshal Romulus rolling over the Romans with the AC Korps.
el_filet
Prince
up again after 3 days?
nice pace guys!
i'd rather build cop then bach, it's 4c/400s against bach's 6c/600s and gives us the opportunity to build a uni before we go for newton or shakes, depending on the AI's research path. it's also a great combination with newton and colossus.
we're expanding fast. going back - after taking neapolis - for hispalis and take the roman town in the west before capturing this annoying iro city would be my prefered option. but we gonna need salt for cavs. need to take a look at the save.
will get it tonight, but probably won't play until tomorrow evening.
nice pace guys!
i'd rather build cop then bach, it's 4c/400s against bach's 6c/600s and gives us the opportunity to build a uni before we go for newton or shakes, depending on the AI's research path. it's also a great combination with newton and colossus.
we're expanding fast. going back - after taking neapolis - for hispalis and take the roman town in the west before capturing this annoying iro city would be my prefered option. but we gonna need salt for cavs. need to take a look at the save.
will get it tonight, but probably won't play until tomorrow evening.
@el filet, Fair point on Copernicus'. Nothing needs altering as both music theory and astronomy are next in the research line.
I should also remind you that you can take Grenoble 2 turns from now and hopefully knock the French out of the game. (Please no settlers in a boat!)
I should also remind you that you can take Grenoble 2 turns from now and hopefully knock the French out of the game. (Please no settlers in a boat!)
el_filet
Prince
i got it...
el_filet
Prince
350 AD (0):
change syracuse from harbor to temple
MM for some gold
upgrade 2 archers to longbow
IBT:
marseille: horse->spear
360 AD (1):
capture neapolis->temple
change rouen to market (forgot to MM for horse)
IBT:
hannibal wants theology->war
iros want gunpowder for peace->no
lyons: horse->granary
resistance in ravenna ended
dijon: granary->duct
370 AD (2):
kill some iros
IBT:
remove troops from celtic land and lose a horse because of that
FP finished ->spear
marseilles: spear->galley
celts took hispalis
380 AD (3):
change avignon harbor to temple
rush barracks in neapolis
kill some iros
IBT:
iros pillage neapolis
amsterdam: cath->col
tours: duct->market
neapolis: barracks->spear
390 AD (4):
tell french to leave, they do
kill some iros
IBT:
paris: spear->horse
400 AD (5):
fail to take kahnawake
(2 reg spear beat 2 vet LB), but get a leader from archer [dance]
kick out french again. declare.
capture grenoble and destroy french->lib
kill some iros...
IBT:
ravenna: worker->worker
lyons: granary->horse
marseilles: galley->spear (for amiens)
410 AD (6):
build army (unfilled)
change syracuse temple->treb
change amiens spear->walls
incas & celts got PP
embassy in athen: 0 gold, republic, size 10, 701 c/17 cpt
4 hoplites; 2 horses; building temple with 10 spt, got colosseum
IBT:
PP comes in
pentagon message
chartres: market->spear
amiens: walls->rax
420 AD (7):
lose an AC capturing brundisium
IBT:
EDIT: carthagians advance on amiens (war & NM)
paris: horse->horse
lyons: horse->treb
marseilles: spear->horse
resistance in brundisium ended
430 AD (8):
rush temple in brundisium
embassy in cuzco (12):
259 g, republic / 4 pikes / iron,wines,furs,ivory / 968 c, 24 cpt / building pike with 9 spt / all buildings exept court + pyramids & leo
IBT:
our galley sinks cart galley
amsterdam: colosseum->pentagon (prebuild for ?)
chartres: spearman->galley
brundisium: temple->granary
440 AD (9):
change neapolis spear->temple
load galley with spears for amiens
IBT:
romans get some workers back
cart advance on amiens
paris: horse->horse
lyons: treb->treb
besancon: duct->market
dijon: duct->market
450 AD (10):
capture rome
ship spears to amiens
change syracuse to lib (rush?)
celts capture pompeii, romans iron city
notes:
moved roman slaves E to built save road, S would be faster
iros units stopped coming in (the last ones were vets)
moved troops from kahnawake to ceasaraugusta (size 2 now, waited for grow next to kahnawake)
units around chartres meant to enhance amiens defense
realized in my last turn i could have moved down lux to 0
army on the way to front (wait for knight/cav or fill with AC on it's way)
slow tech pace good for our 20k, but don't know what to build in amsterdam (should save pentagon as prebuild imo)
the horses aren't worth much, we need iron/MT for useful units
change syracuse from harbor to temple
MM for some gold
upgrade 2 archers to longbow
IBT:
marseille: horse->spear
360 AD (1):
capture neapolis->temple
change rouen to market (forgot to MM for horse)
IBT:
hannibal wants theology->war
iros want gunpowder for peace->no
lyons: horse->granary
resistance in ravenna ended
dijon: granary->duct
370 AD (2):
kill some iros
IBT:
remove troops from celtic land and lose a horse because of that
FP finished
->spearmarseilles: spear->galley
celts took hispalis
380 AD (3):
change avignon harbor to temple
rush barracks in neapolis
kill some iros
IBT:
iros pillage neapolis
amsterdam: cath->col
tours: duct->market
neapolis: barracks->spear
390 AD (4):
tell french to leave, they do
kill some iros
IBT:
paris: spear->horse
400 AD (5):
fail to take kahnawake
(2 reg spear beat 2 vet LB), but get a leader from archer [dance]kick out french again. declare.
capture grenoble and destroy french->lib
kill some iros...
IBT:
ravenna: worker->worker
lyons: granary->horse
marseilles: galley->spear (for amiens)
410 AD (6):
build army (unfilled)
change syracuse temple->treb
change amiens spear->walls
incas & celts got PP
embassy in athen: 0 gold, republic, size 10, 701 c/17 cpt
4 hoplites; 2 horses; building temple with 10 spt, got colosseum
IBT:
PP comes in
pentagon message
chartres: market->spear
amiens: walls->rax
420 AD (7):
lose an AC capturing brundisium
IBT:
EDIT: carthagians advance on amiens (war & NM)
paris: horse->horse
lyons: horse->treb
marseilles: spear->horse
resistance in brundisium ended
430 AD (8):
rush temple in brundisium
embassy in cuzco (12):
259 g, republic / 4 pikes / iron,wines,furs,ivory / 968 c, 24 cpt / building pike with 9 spt / all buildings exept court + pyramids & leo
IBT:
our galley sinks cart galley
amsterdam: colosseum->pentagon (prebuild for ?)
chartres: spearman->galley
brundisium: temple->granary
440 AD (9):
change neapolis spear->temple
load galley with spears for amiens
IBT:
romans get some workers back
cart advance on amiens
paris: horse->horse
lyons: treb->treb
besancon: duct->market
dijon: duct->market
450 AD (10):
capture rome
ship spears to amiens
change syracuse to lib (rush?)
celts capture pompeii, romans iron city
notes:
moved roman slaves E to built save road, S would be faster
iros units stopped coming in (the last ones were vets)
moved troops from kahnawake to ceasaraugusta (size 2 now, waited for grow next to kahnawake)
units around chartres meant to enhance amiens defense
realized in my last turn i could have moved down lux to 0
army on the way to front (wait for knight/cav or fill with AC on it's way)
slow tech pace good for our 20k, but don't know what to build in amsterdam (should save pentagon as prebuild imo)
the horses aren't worth much, we need iron/MT for useful units
el_filet
Prince
it does produce crusaders, in perfect syncronization with the AC's from amsterdam.
sent one each for defending amiens, capturing ceasaraugusta and roman frontline duty.
was tempted to research edu myself. in my last 20k game i didn't slowed research and it cost me some MA wonders because of the cascade. wanted to finsh as much culture as possible before doing that. if we time research with prebuilds for uni and cop, we probably can control the cascade here.
sent one each for defending amiens, capturing ceasaraugusta and roman frontline duty.
was tempted to research edu myself. in my last 20k game i didn't slowed research and it cost me some MA wonders because of the cascade. wanted to finsh as much culture as possible before doing that. if we time research with prebuilds for uni and cop, we probably can control the cascade here.
Retail madness has left little energy so turn log is truncated.
In short:
Healed up armies and and covered approaches to Cumae from advancing Celtic knights. Killed some Iro then made peace for Kahnawake. Fought the Cathaginains to a standstill at Amiens then made a straight up peace deal. However we now have a sizeable force over there, including an army with a single AC in it for now.
After the alliance with Celts expired captured Cumae and made a poeace treaty with Rome for their towns in "our" territory. One turn later the Celts took Rome out of play.
Learned Education and dumped the Pentagon shields into Amsterdam U (home of the Flying Dutchmen hockey team with Hans Brinker as left wing who skates like the wind, Rembrandt at right wing who is a demon stick-handler and the Dutch Boy in the goal with using all ten fingers to block the crease). Then cranked up the research rate to get to Music Theory.
Net result is that we are at peace with all, building Bach's in Amsterdam (6cpt and a major boost to happiness), researching Astronomy at a rate that will let us cascade the shields for Bach's into Cop's if necessary, we have happiness issues in some former French and Iro towns, though the Romans are happy to see us. We are trading Celts and Incas for luxes to keep the entertainment tax down, hold Music Theory as a monopoly. We could consider the path through Democracy to Free Artistry for Shake's as well.
The Inca are the current culture monster, while Carthage is the land owner.
Our military is weak to the Celts, average or better with all others.
Capturing the Roman capitol gave us saltpeter protected from the encroachment of neghbors. Science slider is set at 10% and I am using scientists at various points throughout the nation to enhance the research rate and conserve gpt.
In short:
Healed up armies and and covered approaches to Cumae from advancing Celtic knights. Killed some Iro then made peace for Kahnawake. Fought the Cathaginains to a standstill at Amiens then made a straight up peace deal. However we now have a sizeable force over there, including an army with a single AC in it for now.
After the alliance with Celts expired captured Cumae and made a poeace treaty with Rome for their towns in "our" territory. One turn later the Celts took Rome out of play.
Learned Education and dumped the Pentagon shields into Amsterdam U (home of the Flying Dutchmen hockey team with Hans Brinker as left wing who skates like the wind, Rembrandt at right wing who is a demon stick-handler and the Dutch Boy in the goal with using all ten fingers to block the crease). Then cranked up the research rate to get to Music Theory.
Net result is that we are at peace with all, building Bach's in Amsterdam (6cpt and a major boost to happiness), researching Astronomy at a rate that will let us cascade the shields for Bach's into Cop's if necessary, we have happiness issues in some former French and Iro towns, though the Romans are happy to see us. We are trading Celts and Incas for luxes to keep the entertainment tax down, hold Music Theory as a monopoly. We could consider the path through Democracy to Free Artistry for Shake's as well.
The Inca are the current culture monster, while Carthage is the land owner.
Our military is weak to the Celts, average or better with all others.
Capturing the Roman capitol gave us saltpeter protected from the encroachment of neghbors. Science slider is set at 10% and I am using scientists at various points throughout the nation to enhance the research rate and conserve gpt.