don't have time atm to respond to this rant, but i would like to point out that 'your an ass' is actually 'you're an ass.' CAPS don't make the strength of an argument, so i don't know what the point of that was. anyway if i get time...
and there is a difference b/t the upper class and the bourgeoisie. The communist manifesto explains it in more detail.
Well a Rant would be CONSTANTLY COMPLAINING at one particular item. I simply wrote my opinion on several items which were addressed. maybe I should point out that in "don't have time atm to respond to this rant, but i would like to point out that 'your an ass' is actually 'you're an ass.' " It should begin with the word I, as an abbreviation atm should be "A.T.M" the i after but should be "I" but hey, I could careless about grammar and spelling online. why? because it's grammar and spelling online. It doesn't matter. Seriously? Am i gettign paid to write this? Am I getting a grade on it? Is this going to help my credit score? No. All it is, is sharing my opinion with yours. You made the same rants and ravings, yet a man of opposite opinion cannot do the same? There was about 10 post here meant to be funny, and the rest were flame back and fourth, I figured I'd throw in my 2 cents. But clearly, my 2 cents is worthless if I don't think the same as you. But first thing any on when they need to dig up dirt, dig up info to debate is.. "You cant speel with da gama. " And when I say upper class I mean, 5 million dollar home they never had a mortgage on it. When i say flat broke i mean Bankruptcy. I read the communist manifesto when I was in about 5th grade, it's been a while but I pretty much understand what it is. So I don't know if your trying to say "you don't know what rich is" or "you dont know what poor is" or "you don't understand communism" I dont know what your saying by bringing it up, but I'll say this. Communism is the perfect government on paper, but with human greed it is an impossible form of government. The only way to have a working socialist government is to make money useless. To do this you need one government, guaranteed food, no pay checks, no individuality, everything would have to be the same. Look at Star Trek they have a sort of socialist government, they earn no wages, the only thing they can do is better themselves, which don't get me wrong it's good, but currently what is everyone's dream? To be rich, provide for their family, and be able to help other friends and family in need. Take away money, theres no longer the pride of being the one that supports your family, meaning your family doesn't lean on you, meaning they can get the same stuff on their own as they can with you. So I don't know if you were hinting at communism or not, but thats my opinions on it, it works in some countries, but not all, has advantages and equal disadvantages.I mean I run complete communist government on Civ.

but if your not hinting at communism then, ignore that. lol
Actually, meat (may I call you that?), I'm sure, SURE, he'd rather be in Europe than here. The Euro is worth almost twice as much as the dollar, and it's a much more relaxed lifestyle there. At this point you are clearly a psychopath. Tell me also, meat, how long have you been here? Since 1639? Didn't think so...If you'd like to brag about "your" country's millitary, why don't you go join up and get your ass blown off in Iraq? Sound good? So no one takes offense to that, I'm in full support of the troops. I think the government is putting their lives at risk for no reason. Do you not agree?
To be honest with you, I think most Americans would rather be in Europe. To move somewhere because of their millitary is really quite ********. Meatwad, why would he move here for the millitary. Think about it:
If we were alive 200 years ago, would you move to Britain? To be part of a "powerful" nation? Didn't think so.
I'm not lying, he said that. Look it up. I rest my case.
1 dollar American is approximately 73 cents(? Idk if thats what they call it) Euro. But heres the kicker, Susan, it is more expensive over there. I mean Gas has always been outrageous over there. Land must cost double of what it is in the US, being that Europe has been around longer, so I assume Land is more expensive because it's historical and well Europe is what half the size of the U.S.? The Standard of living must go way up.
As for my respect for the American Military, AS STATED, SOME OF US CAN'T ENLIST BECAUSE OF PHYSICAL/MEDICAL LIMITATIONS, no matter how ridiculous it is they still do not allow. Trust me, I went to enlist of a tiny little heart problem I wasn't allowed. So yes I would go get my ass blown off in Iraq if I could, along side my brothers. You're in full support of the troops yet you attack me for saying Give the Respect for doing their job and Not to spit on them. that makes alot of sense? Kinda like Hilary, supports the troops, Refuses funds for body armor. I believe there was a reason for this war, I don't believe it was for oil, I don't believe if was to look for what the media called WMDs, I believe it was to get actual WMDs(chemical and biological weapons which had been found) out of the hands of Saddam Hussien, to fix the mistake we made by putting him in, and to hope that by establishing a Democracy in the middle of chaos that it would help stabilize it. But do I know the actually reason? No. Do you? No. Regardless, if we pulled out now, all of our efforts in establishing a stable government will crumble, and all the lives lost will be in vain. If we can keep a stable government, then atleast they didn't die for nothing.
I never said anything about moving to a country because of their military? And most American's would not be happy in Europe, American's are American, They have their own breed of culture, If the average American moved to Europe they'd be the outcast, no matter what their views were. I believe what you are referring to is the "jealousy" issue, Which I said don't you wish your country was this and this sometimes and "Everyone wants power... the United states has power" 200 years ago, I wouldn't be going to Britian, because the chance that they would confuse me with my ancestor who was wanted by the British navy for Piracy, or one of my other Ancestors who would be looked down upon as a savage red skinned subhuman. So yeah.
And your comment on Dick.. I'm willing to bet you are telling the Truth, he might of said that, but, there's this place called context. You should try taking things into it.
Wow,
That is the stupidest post aimed at me so far. I am an American, meatwad, I didn't call anyone a murderer. I was proposing that maybe we shouldn't be sending the troops into a useless "war" to be killed. And I said that if you support the war at this point, your either ******** or want the troops to be killed, and that's not mentioning the hundreds of thousands of Iraqis that are dead because of the chaos.
You said anyone supporting the war, supports the death of troops for no reason. Aka MURDERER! Also don't use the word "******" as when one uses it it shows a desperation and it's not very appropriate behavior, and VERY childish. Hundreds of thousand of Iraqis were killed by Saddam before America went in. I'm seriously doubting that America can kill hundreds of thousands with less than 10k dead on our side without using Nuclear bombs, or bombing woman and children. Only action was taken place against hostile enemy combatants, and if they dropped bombs on school buildings we'd know.
I was trying to get the point across (and obviously didn't get it through your thick head) that this country, this country. Was founded on the ideals that the people would have their own private lives, free of religious persecution, free to open buisnesses, and pretty much anything else that isn't against the law that they wanted to do. I was using the example "the constition" because it symbolizes what this country was about. And I believe that when the government deliberatley violates these ideals of privacy and freedom, they are going against what this country was founded upon and what it standed for.
I was trying to get the point across( and obviously didn't get it through your thick head) that the UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION Does Not say that Government can not interferer in your affairs. And you don't understand what the United States as really founded upon then, It was founded upon GREED. We didn't want to get stuck with taxes and bill. It was because of the British trespasses against us, that made us think, Wait a minute, we don't want to be like them we need laws to protect our people from ever doing this. They were smart and could see that there may be a time when it is necessary to prevent the government from trampling on freedoms, for them it happened a few years later with the Sedation act. If I were to take the Patriot Act at face value, I would reject it. But if you look into it. They still have to have probable cause. I mean they aren't going to go through the trouble of keeping tabs on someone who's only crime was j walking in the 3rd grade. They are only going to keep tabs on people they have probable cause, and they barely do that! There are checks and balances in the patriot act, it was approved by Democrats and Republicans.
[EDIT]I read your last paragraph.

?!WTH?!
Anyone but
YOU (even jungleboot

) should be calling us asses.
So if you say Respect troops dont spit on them your an ass? Come on. cOME ON. I support my troops, I respect my troops. U might not like the war, but don't dishonor the guys doing their job. Would you spit on a janitor? would you spit on a fireman? would you spit on another man? to spit on another man is one of the greatest insults, you'll get your ass kicked if you do it. Back in Vietnam they spit on the troops and showed the great disrepect, WHY? because they disagreed with the war. They treated troops like garbage, because they did their job. I don't want to see that happen now. I'm an ass because I don't want to treat the troops like Garbage! yay for me.
I am an ass, I know this. I'm an Arrogant ass. But I know my sh**. and by the way you present yourself, you don't make an attempt to even fake knowing. You come up with childish insults, I'll come back at you with childish insults, I'll sink to your level, because I'm AN ASS AND I KNOW IT!
[EDIT]Still have a bone to pick.
WTH is wrong with you? Are you racist as well? I'm also Irish and German, maybe I took offense to that?
OoO Racist Racist Racist.. Omg he's a racist! omg.
Listen buddy, I have Irish and German blood in my vains too. There was a comment about the Stereo types of Irish being drunks, and someone from Ireland confirmed it, I was merely stating that last I checked Germany drinks a wee bit more. He who pulls a race card is generally the racist one. But hey guess what, remember that childish insult, "******" My mother does foster care, she cares for Special Needs children. You don't say that word. If you were here, and I heard it again, I'd take your jaw out. I understand it's become part of our language, and occasionally Ill slip up, but I do try not to. And if you ever bring race into a conversation again, then you certainly are a racist.
I did. And guess what?! I also think Michael Moore is a great man. If any one man deserves most credit for trying (it won't completely happen because of "asses" like you) to make a change in this country, it is Michael Moore. Please do tell me, meatwad, what did you do today to help change this country besides sit on your ass and make a fool (or ass) of yourself on your computer while eating Cheese puffs and smoking pot?
Wow way to take a joke and ruin it. That was part of the topic. you know. Play civ to much, if michael moore born in your country -500 instant war, blah lah blah. Michael Moore was alright, I loved Canadian Bacon. But Bowling for Columbine, and Fahrenheit 911 were pathetic. BfC he harassed an old man,(Charleston Heston) because he had an NRA speech a couple hours after a 6 year shot another 6 year with a gun, i believe found in the parents room. Never mind the careless parents, an old man with Alzheimer's is to blame. Then take bullets back to Kmart, one that is illegal, two it's ridiculous to assume K-mart had anything to do with Columbian, They sell ammunition with the assumption itll be used safely. As does every store that does. over 70% of his documentary of Fahrenheit 911 was proven false. I haven't even bothered with Sicko. The guy isn't doing this to change the world, he's doing it for the money. Would you harass old people for millions of dollars? It was ment as a joke, but you so clearly blew it out of proportion.
Sit on my ass eating cheesy poofs and smoking pot. Well one, I don't eat cheesy poofs, and if I did I'd buy American so I could help the economy. But hey, smoking weed. YEAH! MAN FAR OUT! everyone that disagrees with you is high right duuuude the duudester, El dudereno. I don't smoke weed, Dumbass. If I smoked weed, when i got bored I wouldn't bother with this. Don't get me wrong, I am not against pot smoking. As long as it's done in reasonable limits, not during work, not high while driving, as long as its in a safe manner. As a matter of fact theres two reasons why I'd like it to be legal would be that the government could intervine with it. This would prevent it being laced with other drugs, lower our taxes, ect. Just make it the same as tobacco and alcohol except I'd up the age to 25. However, there would also have to be many more rules set forth on it to ensure it's not being abused.
But as for what did I do to help my country today, well today I did nothing. Well I donated spare change, since I'm flat broke, I only have spare change to donate. But. in the past month? Well sir, I'm sure I've helped my country more than you have. I assisted the Elderly by showing them how to use a computer to stay in touch with their family and friends as well as moved furniture. I've volunteereed to at a community center to teach under privilege children to read. I worked in the soup kitchen, 2 nights this month. Helped an old lady carry groceries to the car. Helped raise money for local fire department, state made cut backs, and they needed new gear, but we didn't get enough money

. I held the local church with a field day event, and then help them build the new Sunday school building, granted it was like 50 people helping, and all i really did was hold the frame up lol but I helped.
So who makes a difference the guy that goes the extra mile every day, even though it cost him money, or the guy that makes a movie about something tragic and profits from it?
Another random event idea.. two leaders smoke the peace pipe brings their nations together for long lasting peace, (automatic peace treaty for 50 turns) or one leader refuses to smoke the peacepipe, (-2)
Edit: Sorry for continuing the Argument, but it was to tempting. Now I'm hoping we can settle this, because I know your gonna have what I see as a whacked out view about this, and from your point of view I have the whacked out view. So Im hoping we can end it, and keep Political debate out of it. when people talk politics i cant shut up.
Cold war propaganda -2 relations
