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Being overweight may not be as bad as we thought

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From this morning's paper:

Obesity dangers overstated by government, CDC says
Carla K. Johnson, Associated Press
April 20, 2005


CHICAGO -- Being overweight is nowhere near as big a killer as the government thought, ranking No. 7 instead of No. 2 among the nation's leading preventable causes of death, according to a startling new calculation from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The CDC estimated Tuesday that packing on too many pounds accounts for 25,814 deaths a year in the United States. As recently as January, the CDC came up with an estimate 14 times higher: 365,000 deaths.

The new analysis found that obesity -- being extremely overweight -- is indisputably lethal. But like several recent smaller studies, it found that people who are modestly overweight actually have a lower risk of death than those of normal weight.

Biostatistician Mary Grace Kovar, a consultant for the University of Chicago's National Opinion Research Center in Washington, said "normal" may be set too low for today's population. Also, Americans classified as overweight are eating better, exercising more and managing their blood pressure better than they used to, she said.

The study -- an analysis of mortality rates and body-mass index, or BMI -- was published in today's Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA).

Based on the new calculation, excess weight would drop from the second leading cause of preventable death, after smoking, to seventh. It would fall behind car crashes and guns on the list of killers.

Calculating the health effects of obesity has been a major source of controversy at the CDC.

Last year, the CDC issued a study that said being overweight causes 400,000 deaths a year and would soon overtake tobacco as the top U.S. killer. After scientists inside and outside the agency questioned the figure, the CDC admitted making a calculation error and lowered its estimate three months ago to 365,000.

CDC Director Dr. Julie Gerberding said because of the uncertainty in calculating the health effects of being overweight, the CDC is not going to use the brand-new figure of 25,814 in its public awareness campaigns and is not going to scale back its fight against obesity.

"There's absolutely no question that obesity is a major public health concern of this country," she said. Gerberding said the CDC will work to improve methods for calculating the consequences of obesity.

Dr. JoAnn Manson, chief of preventive medicine at Brigham and Women's Hospital in Boston, said she is not convinced the new estimate is right.

"I think it's likely there has been a weakening of the mortality effect due to improved treatments for obesity," she said. "But I think this magnitude is surprising and requires corroboration."

The analysis was led by Katherine Flegal, a senior research scientist with the CDC's National Center for Health Statistics. The study that had to be corrected was conducted by a different arm of the CDC, the Division of Adult and Community Health, and its authors included Gerberding.

One major reason for the far lower number in this latest study is that it used more recent data, researchers said.

"This analysis is far more sophisticated," said Kovar, who was not involved in the new study. "They are very careful and are not overstating their case."

A related study, also in today's JAMA, found that overweight Americans are healthier than ever, thanks to better maintenance of blood pressure and cholesterol levels. Diabetes is on the rise among people in all weight categories, however.

Flegal said the two studies raise questions about what definitions to use for obesity and "where to draw the line." Under current government standards, a BMI, or weight-to-height measurement, of 25 or higher is overweight; 30 and above is obese.

In recent years, the government has spent millions of dollars fighting obesity and publicizing the message that two out of three American adults are overweight or obese, and at higher risk for heart disease, arthritis and diabetes.

"There's absolutely no question that obesity is a major public health concern of this country."

-- Dr. Julie Gerberding, director of the CDC
 
But it has it's drawbacks, overweight men are not to attractive to thin/average women.
 
It would be interesting to see hiw exactly they calculate deaths attributed to excess pounds considering the numerous factors involved. If being a bit overweight actually lowers the risk compared to 'ideal' weight, does that make a Big Mac a healthfood, and lettuce a killer?
 
Perhaps that it's not as LETHAL as thought first, but obesity causes so many health trouble before killing, that it's certainly not as benign as the article imply.
 
Scuffer said:
It would be interesting to see hiw exactly they calculate deaths attributed to excess pounds considering the numerous factors involved. If being a bit overweight actually lowers the risk compared to 'ideal' weight, does that make a Big Mac a healthfood, and lettuce a killer?
It may be that people who are moderately overweight tend to eat better and exercise more than they otherwise would but still don't manage to lose weight while those who are naturally thin due to metabolism are more reckless with their eating and exercise habits.
 
CivGeneral said:
But it has it's drawbacks, overweight men are not to attractive to thin/average women.
I disagree. In my experience women like nice, confident men almost regardless of looks. If looks are important i believe the worst look you can have is being a skinny whimp. :)

I have gained a few pounds the last couple of years, but it has not at all hindered me in getting girls.
 
CivGeneral said:
But it has it's drawbacks, overweight men are not to attractive to thin/average women.

wanna bet :p

I've quite overweight and I've never had any problems pulling women. I think it's a confidence thing
 
Fat people, rejoice! Keep on stuffing thyselves! :lol:

As far as attractiveness goes, I wouldn't date an overweight girl. Being overweight is generally a sign of lack of self discipline and self respect. I don't want girls like that.
 
WickedSmurf said:
As far as attractiveness goes, I wouldn't date an overweight girl. Being overweight is generally a sign of lack of self discipline and self respect. I don't want girls like that.
I'm much more shallow : I don't want a fat girl, because it's ugly :p
 
CivGeneral said:
But it has it's drawbacks, overweight men are not to attractive to thin/average women.

I doubt that. Especially shallow women (who usually care a lot about their looks - i.e. the "hot babes") don't care much about how a man looks. While I don't like the music of Good Charlotte at all they correctly characterized the world of shallow people of both sexes with "Girls don't like boys. Girls like cars and money. Boys don't like girls. They just like their bodies. And these girls like these boys like these boys like these girls.."
Which also points out that there's nothing wrong with being shallow as far as interpersonal ethics are concerned. The women attracted to shallow men are just as shallow as those - it's their "nature" and a fair deal.
Honestly if you want that hot babe you better get a big car, money, power etc.. She probably doesn't care much about your ass.
 
WickedSmurf said:
Says the German... :p

And he is right! :p

I'd like to warn everyone around here that I'll post parts from Marquis De Sade's "120 Nights of Sodom" the next time someone claims that the French have taste!
 
Mario Feldberg said:
And he is right! :p

I'd like to warn everyone around here that I'll post parts from Marquis De Sade's "120 Nights of Sodom" the next time someone claims that the French have taste!

There are a few of us that might start thinking the French have good taste, were you to do so. ;)
 
Mario Feldberg said:
I'd like to warn everyone around here that I'll post parts from Marquis De Sade's "120 Nights of Sodom" the next time someone claims that the French have taste!
The French can apply counter fire with something from the writingts of count Leopold von Sacher-Masoch.:lol:
 
IglooDude said:
There are a few of us that might start thinking the French have good taste, were you to do so. ;)

Are you serious?! Well, the rest of the world will still think that eating sh*t is not erotic.. (just one of the perversions from the Sade book).
 
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