[RD] Berkeley Riots

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It's a demand that self-interest and wellbeing be re-wedded to participation in community? At it's best, and maybe most appropriate?

Capitalism tends to overreward rapaciousness, altruistic volunteerism tends to underreward self-interest.
 
Farm Boy said:
It's a demand that self-interest and wellbeing be re-wedded to participation in community? At it's best, and maybe most appropriate? Capitalism tends to overreward rapaciousness, altruistic volunteerism tends to underreward self-interest.
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You're probably right, but then... who's fault is that?
 
Fruits of the tree?
 
Traitorfish said:
Quoting one of those involved in the protests,


What we witnessed at Berkeley was the failure of the system to respond to the public, not the failure of the public to adhere to the system.

Somebody once said something about "the language of the unheard".
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I'm more focused on what people did do than what they didn't do. And honestly it sounds like they spent way too much time focusing on this event.
 
I wonder if Milo's archetype is actually a thing - odd gay guy who seems ambivalent about his sexuality and has inexplicable disdain for progressives and progressive causes. There's him, Peter Thiel and possibly a few others I've seen.

BvBPL said:
This is a frustration with the premise that violence was effective here. While people say violence was effective at preventing harm to the students, it was not effective at preventing as much as potentially delaying it. Yiannopoulos is still free to name the students through alternative means. Were he to do so and the students were harmed as a result then the violence will have been for naught when it comes to defending the students.
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Since protests are liable to result in violence (as you can't control everyone's actions, especially people from entirely separate groups or, worse, hired provocateurs), then the logical conclusion of your position is that protests are almost always ill-advised.
 
aelf said:
Since protests are liable to result in violence (as you can't control everyone's actions, especially people from entirely separate groups or, worse, hired provocateurs), then the logical conclusion of your position is that protests are almost always ill-advised.
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No. That's not a logical conclusion in the least.

There is always a risk that one could choke on a bone and die when eating fried chicken. That the risk is always present doesn't mean eating friend chicken is inadvisable because the severely negative consequence is preventable with a little common sense.
 
BvBPL said:
No. That's not a logical conclusion in the least.

There is always a risk that one could choke on a bone and die when eating fried chicken. That the risk is always present doesn't mean eating friend chicken is inadvisable because the severely negative consequence is preventable with a little common sense.
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Your common sense? How do you know that everyone who is participating subscribes to your "common sense"? That's highly presumptuous.

If you believe that you're highly likely to choke on a bone while eating fried chicken because you don't have full control of your jaw, does it make sense for you to eat it?
 
The point being that the possibility of a potential negative consequence is not necessarily sufficient to advise against an action. You could go outside, slip on a slick of oil, bang your head, and die. It's possible. That doesn't mean you shouldn't leave your house.
 
I think it's good enough. You don't have to muddy the chickens' good name. Cannibalistic nasty little things that they are.

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Sommerswerd said:
The name isn't the only good thing about chickens... they are a damn tasty bird...:yumyum:
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I've eaten very few varieties of bird, and still rate them only second best. I think they are just more available than actually tasty.
 
Less gamy/oily than many.

You can still go full nuts with them if you want to!

http://www.ripschicken.com/

Yummmm. Once a year. Tops. I'd skip eating the skin, the crumbles cover it earlier in the meal.
 
My bird consumption, unless I have forgotten something, is limited to turkey, chicken, Cornish hen, and duck. Chicken is fine, but in even that small sample not the best, IMO.

My only close experience with bald eagles was watching them eat out of a dumpster behind a McDonald's, which is an image I would be hard pressed to put aside were I presented with one on a plate.
 
Timsup2nothin said:
My bird consumption, unless I have forgotten something, is limited to turkey, chicken, Cornish hen, and duck. Chicken is fine, but in even that small sample not the best, IMO.

My only close experience with bald eagles was watching them eat out of a dumpster behind a McDonald's, which is an image I would be hard pressed to put aside were I presented with one on a plate.
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You haven't seen pigs being slopped? Or worked in a kitchen where they donate/sell the garbage to farms for pig slop in special "food waste only" cans ? :yuck:

Turkey is another fine tasting bird, boiled, baked, roasted, or fried.
 
Traditionally made Peking Duck is pretty much the Cadillac of avian foodstuffs.
 
No, watching other people eat crow is.
 
Sommerswerd said:
The name isn't the only good thing about chickens... they are a damn tasty bird...:yumyum:
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I don't know. To me, they always taste like chicken.
 
metalhead said:
Traditionally made Peking Duck is pretty much the Cadillac of avian foodstuffs.
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Duck skin is too thick, tough, and fatty. Also...that's un-American, shame on you :nono:... Obviously Thanksgiving turkey has been conclusively proven by science to be the "Cadillac" of all bird-dishes and its in the bible, somewhere in Leviticus, I think I heard some people saying that, anyway.
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No, watching other people eat crow is.
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You enjoy watching people eat a carrion bird?:ack: I guess everyone has their little sadistic/masochistic thing they like... I'm kind of partial to stuff involving ladies in kinky leather/latex/lace, but whatever floats your boat...
 
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