aelf
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But if you know that the chance of something bad happening is high, would it be wise or responsible to do it? Risky decisions that have a potentially serious impact surely have moral implications that are not necessarily good.
[RD] Berkeley Riots
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But if you know that the chance of something bad happening is high, would it be wise or responsible to do it? Risky decisions that have a potentially serious impact surely have moral implications that are not necessarily good.
Berzerker
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so...did this Milo dude actually publish a list of undocumented students?
Anyone else think it is absolutely hilarious that a riot that had the stated goal of silencing Milo has given him a bigger voice than ever? I just checked and his book sales went up 12,000% (that's right, 12,000%) since the riot and his YouTube channel and Twitter account are blowing up with new views, subscribers, and followers.
So congratulations students of UC Berkeley, your little anarchist temper tantrum had the 100% opposite effect of what you wanted. Milo thanks you for your support.
So congratulations students of UC Berkeley, your little anarchist temper tantrum had the 100% opposite effect of what you wanted. Milo thanks you for your support.
Hygro
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These seem to be blatant lies since Milo is banned from twitter and there's nobody talking about him on social media
They only seem to be lies because you don't do your research. The Twitter claim may have been false, but just look up his book on Amazon and you will see it has seen a 12,740% increase in sales since the Berkeley riots and look at his analytics for his YouTube channel and you will see a massive increase in views and subscribers since the riots as well.
Are you and metalhead going to tell me that Amazon and Google are considered "alternative facts"?
But west india man said the Twitter claim seemed like a lie and backed it up with evidence, which you then tacitly admitted. Claiming that he attacked Google as "alternate facts" seems like strawmanning Commodore, he said "banned from Twitter" not Google.
Also, you posted the claim that you now admit was false., not them How do you then turn around and accuse them of falsely labeling things alternate facts. west india man correctly called out as falsehood something that you posted. metalhead commented that you were buying alternate facts. Both claims turned out to be true, period. I fully understand you coming back with "OK this part of what I posted was wrong, but other parts were right", fine... but why strawman them with the "You guys think Google is alternate facts now!" accusation? Is it deflection, embarrassment (about being called out), or what?
Traitorfish
The Tighnahulish Kid
So he sold at least 120 books?
I mean, I checked his YouTube channel, and he has about half a million subscribers. Sounds impressive, but Rhett & Link have over eleven million subscribers, and their newest video is about eating ice cream made of refried beans. Grav3yardgirl, who reviews make up and "As Seen On TV" products has almost eight million subscribers. Even this channel about two bodybuilding brothers has over twice as many subscribers as Milo does. If these people that you've never heard of are dwarfing Milo in viewership, then his actual audience is seriously struggling to keep pace with his notoriety.
Only a Sith thinks in absolutes, sure, but sometimes hard numbers matter.
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The book deal was for $250k, so I assume probably more.
Berzerker
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he makes fun of people based on their looks, no wonder he supports Trump
sophie
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A $250k book deal is just like having 500k followers on youtube. In normal people terms it's a pretty hefty sum of money. And considering his message and ideology, he obviously deserves nothing. But in terms of celebrity-fueled publishing deal, 250k is peanuts. It's hard to say how much bigger youtube stars are pulling on book deal advances because most people don't disclose that kind of information, but here's some food for thought:
Amy Schumer was reportedly paid a $9.5M advance for The Girl with the Lower Back Tattoo
Tina Fey was probably paid somewhere in the neighborhood of a $5M advance for Bossypants, per Lorne Michaels
Lena Dunham was given a $3.5M advance for Not that Kind of Girl
Obviously actresses like Schumer, Fey, and Dunham pull larger and more mainstream audiences than a youtube starlet, but considering books from youtubers like Hannah Hart, and John Green have placed high on NYT bestsellers charts, I would imagine they command pretty hefty advances themselves. All that is ignoring, of course, that his $250k book deal came from a publisher known for giving scummy ideologues a platform, and that that deal was inked last year, notably before this whole Berkeley dust-up.
Wouldn't it be easier to make fun of Trump?
That said... making fun of people due to how they look is not (just) a dem, repub or trumpist thing. It is a nasty attitude, though.
Timsup2nothin
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Wouldn't it be easier to make fun of Trump?
That said... making fun of people due to how they look is not (just) a dem, repub or trumpist thing. It is a nasty attitude, though.
The temptation to assemble a hundred quotes where you make fun of how people look is very strong.
Indeed. Let's not go into that pls
(in my defense, it is always some politician or similar oligarch
)It's not the numbers that count though, it's the rate at which those numbers are acquired. Milo saw a huge jump in his YouTube view counts and subscriber count after the riots at Berkeley. Now you could say it might just be his opponents going on there to dislike his videos and leave mean comments, but that doesn't really matter. YouTube's algorithm doesn't use likes and dislikes anymore when determining how far up in the search results a video or channel should be pushed. It looks at a combination of overall watch time and whether or not your videos/channel are "trending" (getting a huge spike in views/subscribers in a short amount of time). So even if it is just anti-Milo people going on there to troll him, they are still helping him out by doing so since the algorithm just sees it as another view and thinks his videos are getting those views because people like him.
And what makes you think I've never heard of those YouTubers? Oh that was just a baseless assumption on your part? Got it.
He claimed it was all blatant lies simply based off the fact that one of the claims was false. He operated on the logic that if one was false, it must all be false. This is evidenced by the fact that he said "These seem to be blatant lies", not "the Twitter claim is a blatant lie".
EDIT: Don't try to gaslight me like that Sommer. You're one of the few people on here I still actually like. Not to mention such a tactic is beneath you.
Lexicus
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Translation: I haven't heard of them but wouldn't admit it under torture
I doubt the algorithm cares: presumably it rewards views because everyone viewing a video has to watch the adverts, whether they like the video or not.
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You've made this claim at least twice now. Do you have evidence to support it?
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