Best Civ-Specific Ability?
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Chinese American
Hamtastic Knight
Science is important, but I don't think the Scientific ability gives that much of an advantage. Free tech is like goody huts. Expansionists might get equal or better advantage here.
Science improvements are easier to build. There aren't that many science improvements (3 or 4?); of course, in the long run , you'll have lots of cities and you'll want those libraries. But you'll still need trade arrows (ie roads, oceans, rivers).
There are also other ways to acquire techs, through conquest (at least in Civ 2) and through diplomacy. Then there are Wonders like Great Library (if it's the same as Civ 2), Colossus, Newton's College, etc.
Science improvements are easier to build. There aren't that many science improvements (3 or 4?); of course, in the long run , you'll have lots of cities and you'll want those libraries. But you'll still need trade arrows (ie roads, oceans, rivers).
There are also other ways to acquire techs, through conquest (at least in Civ 2) and through diplomacy. Then there are Wonders like Great Library (if it's the same as Civ 2), Colossus, Newton's College, etc.
stravaig
Stand Up Philosopher
I picked Scientific, simply because, in all my Civ experience and in all my experience with every other empire building / world conquest type game (e.g. MOO2, SMAC, RFTS, etc), The civ/nation/race/faction with the Science edge almost always wins.
There's /no/ substitute for knowledge, and knowledge is power.
In CivIII, it can likely be traded for things you don't have, too!
Now, I do think that Scientific has been toned down - the bonus is to building things like Universities, so there's no across-the-board increase in your Research rate.
Combine Scientific with Industrious (odd that that's not an option, eh? Gamebalance, I assume) and you'd pump out those improvements too quickly.
Combine Scientific with Commercial, and you can boost your Research rate... Dangerous.
Combine Scientific wth Expansionistic, and (with some luck) you'll be into the next Age before your opponents are even halfway through!
Russians, baby, yeah!!
- Stravaig
PS (I think the French are pretty awesome, too. It's hard to argue with the intense flexibility of being both Industrious /and/ Commercial)
PPS (Anyone know if Philosophy is still going to grant a free Advance?)
There's /no/ substitute for knowledge, and knowledge is power.
In CivIII, it can likely be traded for things you don't have, too!
Now, I do think that Scientific has been toned down - the bonus is to building things like Universities, so there's no across-the-board increase in your Research rate.
Combine Scientific with Industrious (odd that that's not an option, eh? Gamebalance, I assume) and you'd pump out those improvements too quickly.
Combine Scientific with Commercial, and you can boost your Research rate... Dangerous.
Combine Scientific wth Expansionistic, and (with some luck) you'll be into the next Age before your opponents are even halfway through!
Russians, baby, yeah!!
- Stravaig
PS (I think the French are pretty awesome, too. It's hard to argue with the intense flexibility of being both Industrious /and/ Commercial)
PPS (Anyone know if Philosophy is still going to grant a free Advance?)
JavalTigar
Overlord of the West
Knowledge = Power
Money = Happiness
Therefore Science & Commerce are the Path to victory!
Plus a good early defender, so the Greeks got my vote!
Money = Happiness
Therefore Science & Commerce are the Path to victory!
Plus a good early defender, so the Greeks got my vote!
DaEezT
Civ, Pizza, Spam, Repeat
Straight to the point without the useless burden of a sentence
but
Money = root of evil !
and power = corrupts and corruption = evil
I see a grim future for your greeks
stravaig
Stand Up Philosopher
It has been brought to my attention that the Persians are Scientific and Industrious.
I been operating under the misunderstanding that that combination didn't exist. I'd convinced myself that it was because such a combination was way imballanced.
Now that I've seen the light, I have a brand-new much-favored civ:
The Persians!!
Although the Russians and the French are close seconds. The Persians get the nod also because of their earlier CSU.
- Stravaig
I been operating under the misunderstanding that that combination didn't exist. I'd convinced myself that it was because such a combination was way imballanced.
Now that I've seen the light, I have a brand-new much-favored civ:
The Persians!!
Although the Russians and the French are close seconds. The Persians get the nod also because of their earlier CSU.
- Stravaig
Sukenis
the J'BOOtian Warlord
Maybe I am missing something, but I thought the only real constant in the game was unhappiness. If you are behind in tech, you can still win battles. If you have unhappy citizens and have to make entertainers, you loose the production they could be creating. I could go on with the other bonuses, but I think you see my point (even if it is wrong
) If this is so, why is religous so far down on everybodys list. Getting buildings that make people happy more quickly seems like a big (the biggest maybe?) plus to me.
Also the higher up in difficulty you go the better it is. While on chief it may be worth little (expect for the faster culture gained) but on the higherst level Religous will help greatly.
) If this is so, why is religous so far down on everybodys list. Getting buildings that make people happy more quickly seems like a big (the biggest maybe?) plus to me. Also the higher up in difficulty you go the better it is. While on chief it may be worth little (expect for the faster culture gained) but on the higherst level Religous will help greatly.
dainbramaged13
Chieftain
well, the results seem clear... whos sci and industrial>?
I'm leaning towards taking the Germans with thier militaristic/Scientific Combo and they will probally have a modern UU like a tank.
Although I won't make my final descion til I read the game manual and get a better understanding of how the game plays.
Although I won't make my final descion til I read the game manual and get a better understanding of how the game plays.
ChrTh
Happy Yule!
Well, it looks like the Persians are it! Which is cool, because I was planning on playing them anyhow (along with the Iriquois).
I'll be sure not to repeat the mistake at Thermopylae or Salamis.
I'll be sure not to repeat the mistake at Thermopylae or Salamis.
Mozenwrath
Warlord
For me its GOT to be miltaristic. From what I've heard, armies are going to be mighty powerful and could swing the tide of a war therefore more battlefield promotions=more great leaders=more armies=WORLD DOMINATION!!! However, i have to say the scientific comes a close second but in the end, who wins, 3 individual marines or an ARMY of riflemen/ (by the way, the army wins IMO)
:tank:
:tank:
ChrTh
Happy Yule!
Well, looking at the poll stats, the WORST Civ to play would be Religious and Expansionist...which is...
Iriquois
Somehow I chose the best and worst* civ to play! [punch]
*Based on Poll results
Iriquois
Somehow I chose the best and worst* civ to play! [punch]
*Based on Poll results
roads or no trade and no resource. for city pop. 1 for a worker, 2
for a new city. roads to bonus food resources. plus, all that food, I never raced to build the Pyramids, I will now. how much faster will roads be built? french, russians, americans, any order.
for a new city. roads to bonus food resources. plus, all that food, I never raced to build the Pyramids, I will now. how much faster will roads be built? french, russians, americans, any order.
animepornstar
Deity
i think fast working workers will give good economy, culture and science.
the french and the greeks look best to me. good defensive uu and their abilities will be a good combo.
the french and the greeks look best to me. good defensive uu and their abilities will be a good combo.
brandon749
Warlord
France got too much. The USA should have gotten commercial and industrious.
