Beta 9 Talk

Not sure if this has been discussed elsewhere, but I think Palermo should maybe be nerfed a bit. Yes, players playing the norse or genovans can take it early, but for anyone else it's a huge commitment, and the npc will never take it. Playing as the arabs, it was something I would have liked to do because its a cool part of history, but it would have been a huge investment to take it in 1200 or whenever. Spain should have a shot too.

Another thing I noticed as the arabs - Cordoba respawned at the H... Caliphate, which was great. When they did, I got a screen showing five or so options, what they were I don't exactly remember, but they included letting them go, cracking down hard, or leaving local garrisons to take care of them. It would be nice if there were a hover popup or something that would give more information about the differences.

Again, great job!
 
Palermo does fortify quite a bit and once its filled with longbows there's not much to do .. longs on a hill behind castle walls = fun! :D

As for Judaism, why not have 5-8 random cities get it whenever Jerusalem changes hands to mimic the diaspora's? Usually flips 2-3 times throughout a game unless the Arab AI is having a wicked game.
 
Veshta said:
Palermo does fortify quite a bit and once its filled with longbows there's not much to do .. longs on a hill behind castle walls = fun! :D

As for Judaism, why not have 5-8 random cities get it whenever Jerusalem changes hands to mimic the diaspora's? Usually flips 2-3 times throughout a game unless the Arab AI is having a wicked game.
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IIRC, the code places judaism in some (historical) cities at some historical dates to represent the diaspora. e.g. judaism will spawn in Toledo in 700 AD. (and if it fails, it tries again the next 2 turns) It will also spread in some random cities. (to be not too deterministic)
 
merijn_v1 said:
IIRC, the code places judaism in some (historical) cities at some historical dates to represent the diaspora. e.g. judaism will spawn in Toledo in 700 AD. (and if it fails, it tries again the next 2 turns) It will also spread in some random cities. (to be not too deterministic)
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How come Jews are not in Paris and Berlin, then? Or even London? I played a game all the way to the spawn of the Dutch and I had to go to worldbuilder to put Judaism in Paris et. al.

I think the AI just persecutes them out of the city, which I guess is realistic in a way, but it leaves no Jews in Europe which is slightly ahistorical.
 
Nolan08 said:
How come Jews are not in Paris and Berlin, then? Or even London? I played a game all the way to the spawn of the Dutch and I had to go to worldbuilder to put Judaism in Paris et. al.

I think the AI just persecutes them out of the city, which I guess is realistic in a way, but it leaves no Jews in Europe which is slightly ahistorical.
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The spread is very slow, and it will only spread to about 2 cities every time. So in the end only 10 (?) cities will have judiasm. But IIRC, it's very unlikely that the AI persecutes them.
 
As Poland part of one of the victories is to build two Jewish quarters or something like that, but I can't find any Judaism except for Jerusalem.
 
Veshta said:
Palermo does fortify quite a bit and once its filled with longbows there's not much to do .. longs on a hill behind castle walls = fun! :D

As for Judaism, why not have 5-8 random cities get it whenever Jerusalem changes hands to mimic the diaspora's? Usually flips 2-3 times throughout a game unless the Arab AI is having a wicked game.
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Also why is Palermo the city on Sicily, why not go to the spot on the river so only one hills won't be worked. Then it would be easier to capture as well.
 
merijn_v1 said:
.. But IIRC, it's very unlikely that the AI persecutes them.
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Isabella persecutes everything and everyone .. as she should.

Pope gets rather inqusition happy sometimes when Islam and Orthodoxy spreads deep into mainland Europe so Judaism is probably casualty.
Actually all the civs seem to spam prosecutors, especially when Islam pops up from time to time .. appears to be dependent on Arab/Ottoman performance.
 
Strange Reformation behaviour from AI:

I got All Saints, leader in score and tied in tech.
Spreads to Germany who promptly converts .. only to convert back in the same auto-turn.
Spreads to Venezia who promptly converts .. only to convert back in the same auto-turn.

Seems like the AI doesn't like pop-ups either and clicks the first thing it sees :D
 
yogiebere said:
Hate to be annoying, but do you guys know when 10 will come out?
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Funny, this morning I thought, it has been a long time since the last beta version. But since that version, not many updates have been made. I'm thinking to release a kind of patch this afternoon with the updates.
 
Could you stop Burgundy from building a trash city on the salt and get portugal to not cram cities like sardines?
 
merijn_v1 said:
Funny, this morning I thought, it has been a long time since the last beta version. But since that version, not many updates have been made. I'm thinking to release a kind of patch this afternoon with the updates.
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Ok sweet and then in a few weeks or so a new version? (or hopefully sooner)
 
civ_king said:
Could you stop Burgundy from building a trash city on the salt and get portugal to not cram cities like sardines?
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I'm not albe to do that. So it won't be in the patch.

I'm sorry, but the patch will be delayed to tomorrow.
 
yogiebere said:
Ok sweet and then in a few weeks or so a new version? (or hopefully sooner)
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It depends. I don't have anything I can contribute to the mod by coding. So you'll have to wait until 3Miro is back and done some coding/bugfixing.
 
Merjin - thanks for keeping the dream alive... looking forward to tommorrow's update

BTW: I really like the idea (mentioned in another thread) of a Northern Crusade UHV condition for Germany...
 
merijn_v1 said:
I'm not albe to do that. So it won't be in the patch.

I'm sorry, but the patch will be delayed to tomorrow.
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Actually you could go into settler maps and decrease the settle probability a lot for Burgundy.

On sicily: rice 1W Palermo, sugar on Palermo.

Merge Malta with Sicily if possible, merge Rhodes with Crete, merge Northumbria with Yorkshire

Increase food bonus of Ivory by 1 (to a total of 2)

Add fish to Iceland (2S of Sulphur)

Estonia & Livonia ok for Sweden
 
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