By the way, I really dislike the 'reveal all ocean tiles' UHV, it's annoying to manual galleys around empty tiles every game. Of course I can choose not to do that, but if I want to win a UHV, this map thing is very not fun beyond the first time. Can we change it?
Beta 9 Talk
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By the way, I really dislike the 'reveal all ocean tiles' UHV, it's annoying to manual galleys around empty tiles every game. Of course I can choose not to do that, but if I want to win a UHV, this map thing is very not fun beyond the first time. Can we change it?
I think I found part of the reason for the accelerated tech rate: Rome!.
Playing a Spain game, that Papal bugger has so far had all the key techs first (Plate, Monument etc.) and is more than happy to trade.
- Hit the bible thumper with a whopping tech penalty .. surely his minions around the world can feed him tech
Wat, you mean the super fast tech rate isn't to show the massive Papal sponsorship of learning and science?
El Bogus
Prince
You have to build Vinland now.That is sooo three days ago
You now get a limited time offer Atlantic access near Iceland to build a super early project called Vinland .. very easy, almost too easy if you ask me .. the big hurdle is going to be razing six cities.
PS: On the subject of Norse - could the conquer be have XX in year 1061 rather than by year 1061, the later that golden age hits to better facilitate the last UHV goal.
The what now? It was not called the Dark Ages because it was overcast or that there were a shortage of candles you know
Tech trading and the rather high gold from early civics are the main reasons for the tech rate, France/Germany are getting Chivalry around the time of the English spawn again
.. they get a lot of the pre-reqs from Rome from what I can see and with longbows/knights in one tech the AI cannot be blamed for beelining it djmax101
Chieftain
I don't know if this is a bug or I am just doing it wrong, but the first Bulgarian UHV (Bulgaria on three seas) didn't trigger for me today. My understanding was that you have to control the regions and allow no one else to have culture in them (which I did). There were a few tiles in Arberia that were unclaimed by anyone. Was this the problem? The victory screen showed that I had conquered all the territory, but it did not trigger in 917.
No, it's called Dark Ages to fit better into the world view of some Renaissance thinkersThe what now? It was not called the Dark Ages because it was overcast or that there were a shortage of candles you know
No, it is called the Dark Ages because the Renaissance, the Protestant Reformation and the Enlightenment all did a bit of retconning...That is sooo three days ago
You now get a limited time offer Atlantic access near Iceland to build a super early project called Vinland .. very easy, almost too easy if you ask me .. the big hurdle is going to be razing six cities.
PS: On the subject of Norse - could the conquer be have XX in year 1061 rather than by year 1061, the later that golden age hits to better facilitate the last UHV goal.
The what now? It was not called the Dark Ages because it was overcast or that there were a shortage of candles you know
Tech trading and the rather high gold from early civics are the main reasons for the tech rate, France/Germany are getting Chivalry around the time of the English spawn again
Professor Wik E. Pedia said:
Morholt
Prince
Provinces of Sweden are oddly named. If the borders stay the same, I would call the southernmost one Scania, the middle Götaland and the northernmost Norrland.
3Miro
Deity
If there are cities in the province, then you need to conquer them. If there are no cities in the province, you either have to found one city or get the entire province entirely within your cultural borders. Basically, you need to build a city in Macedonia, a city in Albania (Arberia), then conquer Adrianopolis, Thessaloníki, Belgrade and Constantinople.
3Miro
Deity
Will look at it.
merijn_v1
Black Belt
Look at wikipedia. It says that those areas split up Sweden into 3 parts. I'm fine with those provinces.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sverigekarta-Landsdelar_Götaland.svg
djmax101
Chieftain
I definitely had this accomplished, so I think the UHV is probably currently bugged.
3Miro
Deity
What does the Victory screen show? It should list the captured/missing provinces. Have you checked the year?
djmax101
Chieftain
The victory conditions screen showed everything good to go in 912 (goal was in 917). On turn 918, didn't get credit; instead, the star changed to a despite showing all territories held. I can pull up after class and try to link a screen cap.
despite showing all territories held. I can pull up after class and try to link a screen cap.Morholt
Prince
I know the areas of Sweden! I mean that the province called Svealand in the game actually corresponds to Götaland, and the province called Götaland more precisely should be called Scania (That should have solid stability for Norse, OK for Sweden since it was only conquered in 1659). The area called Norrland in the game should probably be called Svealand. It is a combination of Svealand and southern Norrland, but Norrland was not that significant until 19th century.
djmax101
Chieftain
Here are some links to my game. I hope this helps. The first 2 are in 912. The later is again in 918.
http://img683.imageshack.us/i/bulgariavictoryscreen.jpg/
http://img263.imageshack.us/i/empireo.jpg/
http://img98.imageshack.us/i/latervc.jpg/
http://img683.imageshack.us/i/bulgariavictoryscreen.jpg/
http://img263.imageshack.us/i/empireo.jpg/
http://img98.imageshack.us/i/latervc.jpg/
3Miro
Deity
Did you: Try the game, fail the UHV then started a new game and won? There is a known bug in Beta 9, you have to restart Civilization every time you want to play a new game (save/load works fine).
I will take a look at the code.
djmax101
Chieftain
Ok bingo, that was the problem. I did try and miss the UHV by a turn, so I went back and reloaded to an early save in my original game so I wouldn't have to do the 60 auto-turn to start. That's good to know.
3Miro
Deity
No, that should have worked ... I will still look at the code.
Stability is way too good. Playing as Spain I had 20+ more or less constantly with cities everywhere and I have now sacked Paris twice as English and the bastard is solid as a rock (no GA or crusade to explain it either).
Was more fun/challenging when expansion had to be slow and steady, now one can go full steam and still have excess stability for 3-4 civic/religion switches.
Could the price for losing capital be raised through the roof perhaps? It is currently playing like Civ5 where you basically have to utterly annihilate a player to get rid of him
Have you directed Poland towards Germany? They seem to be dancing quite a lot in Beta9 .. could just be coincidence.
- Bulgaria is a strange one, he has a 50/50 chance of becoming a powerhouse so far, guessing it depends in Byzanz ability to hold back the muslims.
- Kiev is scary when he gets up to speed but tends to fare poorly against the infinite Keshiks so all is well.
- Hungary is a world power when he beelines his UU, otherwise he stays middling and eventually gets wiped.
- Venice got their mojo back big time. Very solid performance so far without being overly powerful.
- Arabia survives loss of Sour and Jerusalem now. Is that intentional?
Was more fun/challenging when expansion had to be slow and steady, now one can go full steam and still have excess stability for 3-4 civic/religion switches.
Could the price for losing capital be raised through the roof perhaps? It is currently playing like Civ5 where you basically have to utterly annihilate a player to get rid of him
Have you directed Poland towards Germany? They seem to be dancing quite a lot in Beta9 .. could just be coincidence.
- Bulgaria is a strange one, he has a 50/50 chance of becoming a powerhouse so far, guessing it depends in Byzanz ability to hold back the muslims.
- Kiev is scary when he gets up to speed but tends to fare poorly against the infinite Keshiks so all is well.
- Hungary is a world power when he beelines his UU, otherwise he stays middling and eventually gets wiped.
- Venice got their mojo back big time. Very solid performance so far without being overly powerful.
- Arabia survives loss of Sour and Jerusalem now. Is that intentional?
