Bleeding Heart Conservatives, and other such buzzwords.

greenpeace said:
there is no case in which we should shed blood not even in the case of Hitler. We could have helped him through non-violence, to many of us were just to ignorant to do so(as is today).

Helped him do what? see the error of his ways? Roll over and die, and allow him to conquer Europe and rule with his "nice" fascist regime? :wallbash:
 
That type of pacifism is exactly what made the third reich so formidable.

And why the E.L.F. trumps greenpeace any day!
 
Mott1 said:
Helped him do what? see the error of his ways? Roll over and die, and allow him to conquer Europe and rule with his "nice" fascist regime? :wallbash:

I feel you pain, I've give up tossed in the towel ... I'm going to learn to weave charkha and wear a dhoti ... ok maybe not. I'm sure Hitler was just trying to reach out for understanding and love after his abusive, difficult childhood, he just needed a hug. He was just misunderstood.
 
greenpeace said:
How can you be so sure that we couldn't help Hitler peacefully?

Because it was tried and it didn't work. Just ask Neville Chamberlain.
 
greenpeace said:
How can you be so sure that we couldn't help Hitler peacefully?


I'll bite, tell us what you have done to change Hitlers desire to wipe out the Jews and take over as much of the world as possible. I'm serious, I really want to know your solution to this. I'm all ears.
 
I really have to go right now but I promise you that I will tell you tommorrow.
edit: here's one way out of many many ways (most of which I don't know)
This will be a globalized effort of peace. At first there will be a mass disarment of forces, and all things suppoting Germany would be boycotted then there would be a convention in which we would go to Hitler to try to persuade him to make peace with the world). If Hitler refuses to either make peace or just doesn't allow the convention at all then this is what we will do:
People from all over the world would make a peace march to Germany. Once the Millions of people have reached Germany they will march to the concentration camps and marched in the cities. There would probably be retailiation on behave of the Germans would probably mow many people down, but still they would march like the people of India did when they marched to the salt mines of Britian and were sistimatically beaten. Once the retailation stoppped (it would have to eventually since they can only retailiate so much before they either run out of supplies or are extremely demoralized) they would go into the concentration camps and ask repetitavly to let the innocent go. They would not stop until they would be killed but again there could only be so much killing. Once all the innocent were freed The millions of extremely brave people would march in search of Hitler and again they would probably be mowed down by machine guns etc. But once Hitler was found they would help Hitler into becoming a person of peace.
This would of course be a very massive effort that might last quite a long time, but think of what we could achieve through this massive effort. It could probably inspire the people of the world to end the insane cycle of death and hatred known as war. We might even be able to have a massive change in which we no longer were the one sided nationalists that most of us are today. Why did this not happen? It did not happen because it seems impossible to most people since most people are too ignorant and cowardly to do such a thing. But most of all it is nationalism that keeps us from doing such grand things.
 
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