Botm 15 Pregame Discussion

[Valynor]

Won my last Prince game, installed HOF mod, ready to be smashed on my first match on Emperor
I think my first move will be scout 1 to NW, then I see, but if I had to play as I'm used, it's very likely that I'm going to settle in place.

Hope to be still alive 1AD.
See you soon

 

[mabraham]

Question to you all about a foresty starting position such as this one.

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Can anybody provide a suggestion if this is feasible?

Only if they haven't started their game. Technically, this post isn't allowed

You may be better served searching the forum, and/or asking in another thread.

 

[Jbourne]

Question to you all about a foresty starting position such as this one.

Suppose you settle in place. You have pigs and a plains hill. You also have ~10 forests.

Say you have a worker and improve the pigs and mine the hill. That gives you some 6 food and 4 hammers, later on a winery gives 2 food, 1 hammer, 5 commerce. Workers take 90 hammers (?), so that would mean 9 turns per worker, bit faster later on....

In one of my previous games, I treated a similar city as a worker/settler producing city, leaving the forests in peace, later preserving them and getting a few more and building the national epic and national park. Is that decent as a great person farm kind of idea or just too late or too idyllic?

In my last non-HOF game I did the following:
0. My captial had 14 forests in the cross with 2 food resources. I settled there.
1. I blocked my neighbour from expanding beyond 3 cities.
2. Had him build al early useful wonders.
3. Vanquished that neighbour.
4. Jumped my capital to its capital.
5. I did go for early great people using a library with 2 scientists and things.
6. None of the forests of the initial capital were chopped. Beeline to Biology, Preserve the forests, build national epic and national park.

So later on (reasonably early) it turned into a great great people farm with all those free people (with caste system), but perhaps too late? Can anybody provide a suggestion if this is feasible?

Since I wont be playing this or any other game untill getting a new computer, allow me to give my dimes worth.

This would depend on the goals of your game but you should find another heavily forested site and keep for that purpose, if you still wish to do so.

Chopping a settler, workers, units to rush or an essential Wonder early may be of better use of the forest in the early game. Even if you chose to wait until Math for the 50% bonus (that is me) this is a better choice.

Now back to the VC. If you chose to go for Space, keep some forest on hand to chop rush the last Ship Part to speed up the win. Since after learning the tech, all that is left is to get that last part done ASAP. Same goes for the UN victory. So this need to be planned early.

For culture, he or she who build those culture buildings earlier will get more culture and only those forests outside of the Fat cross should be kept (if possible) to chop a catherdral or similar, No? 50% culture sooner.

Military VC's: Chop'em axes and rush'em AI's

If you are going for a Time victory then what you must determine is will you be able to run Cast system in the late game with Democracy easily available.

And lastly, the best way to speed up the end game for Most VC's is to bulb essential techs early with GPeople. Late GP's are best used for GA's. So best to setup a GP farm early and sail to VC. Hope this help.

 

[lroumen]

Thanks for all your response(s).
At least now I have a better feel of what can be done with forests most effectively. I guess I'll have to think it over whether I keep it to build the national park or not.

 

[Munro]

No-one else going for the challenger save?

It's been a long time since I lost an emperor game so I'm going to experiment with an espionage economy on this one. The settings look about right for it, with the creative trait to make up for not building libraries, emperor AI to steal from, and continents map to meet them.

The rest of the game will almost certainly involve a lot of fighting and plenty of great generals. Might even use one for a commando / morale super-ballista-elephant for ultimate knight-killing fun.

Anyway,

• without a scout, settling 2W on the plains hill seems like the best option, so I can be sure of getting the 4h +25% worker bonus, while keeping the pigs
• techs will mostly beeline for alphabet, so I can start trading techs and get my espionage economy off to an early start..
• AH is obvious, but I'll also want wheel and pottery early to give my worker something to do.

Anyway, looks like a fun setup. The barray is one of my favourite UBs too.

Good luck to all.

 

[Naamarauta]

Hi all,

Joined the forums and registered to HOF just to play this BOTM.

Love Emperor level, love Kmhers, their UB and UU and their traits. Even the game speed matches by preferences.

Started playing on the weekend, hopefully I got every rule straight and I am eligiable for submittion.

 

[Mungo_84]

Hello, thowing my hat in for this one too, my last months was my first xOTM since BOTM 4. Taking adventurer save, going to see how long I can last. Usually play on Noble. Luck All.

 

[TheMeInTeam]

Can we get a "first spoiler"? It's been almost 2 weeks . I'm already having trouble remembering anything.

 

[DynamicSpirit]

Oooops sorry! Mind on other things (and now we have lots of new staff producing games it's surprisingly easy to forget which game one is oneself responsible for )

Will get one up

 

[Htadus]

Seeing the spoiler threads out, I was getting ready to play the game today. So I came here to see what I wrote about my plans for this game only to find out that I made no postings untill now. Ok memory, you and I have to have a talk. I hope I did not have this talk already. Hope the game goes better.

Ok I predict this game has ganghis, Cyrus, Hanibal, Izzy and other mounted Unique unit civs to prove what an awsome UU Suri has. Except the ivory need to be pried out of Ceasars dead hands. My imagination give me the ibby gibbies.

PS. I swear I posted on this thread before about settiling on a PH. I am remembering that the post did not go through for some reason. I am not loosing my mind after all. OK that may be pushing it.

 

[Riffraff]

Joining my first GOTM after purchasing BTS - should be interesting seeing that I've only played two games on Prince so far.

Don't expect to win my game, but surviving and finishing in a decent position should be possible.