Gosha190
King
yes. I'm not too experienced in playing cultural games unlike jesusin, Lexad and Gray Cardinal. I did not have a plan for a game and as a result I played sloppy just for fun.
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Gosha190
King
Here is represented production evolution screen, gold per turn and culture.
I hate early shrines in my games. They only bring in even more prophets!
Gosha190
King
agree! Shrine is simply 50% factor to a real culture from buildings and commerce. First aim is to get base culture asap and as much as possible.
By the way, I wonder why almost anyone comments on other people games (?)
We're all afraid that some expert will come and show us up for fools...
Oh, but that is exactly what I want to happen!
I comment someone's game and suggest a 'bright' idea of mine
. Then an expert comes and makes a fool of me 
, or just that very same someone answers and makes a fool of me . In both cases I've learnt something new!
Spoiler :
Gosha190
King
me too!
I hate your ways!
Mining as the 5th tech, with gems in sight?
Pottery just after writing? You know what pre-requisites bonus is?
It was first time in my civ history I researched religion tech as first tech!!!I did not think and did not have a plan, simply played. So I researched all I need at a moment.
And you can see - I got Academy very close to Obormot game! It makes me proud for me
I bombed Seville twice and Barca 4 times. Rest infos are represented in my upper posts (see page 4).All those polluting wonders! You don't deserve any GA! Not even the Music one!
By the way, how many did you get and where did you use them?
And where did you use your Hermitage?
First of all I needed more happiness to cover as much tiles as it was possible.
As for culture from buildings - take a look at my capital screen shorts!
I know via PM, that at least one player finished faster me
But he is my guru and I do not feel me too bad He'v read my final posts and toldl me that I overdeveloped my cities for so short distance as 50K points.I decided to miss Alpha in my early research and surely played contender save.Of course when you imitate someone you can't beat him... 1 turn slower... You also played the challenger save, didn't you?
Wow, impressive result and write-up for a first game
For the religious victory to be enabled every AI has to have at least 1 city with that religion. From then on, it works just like the UN (diplo victory).
So in this game, as long as you didn't have any budist city there was no risk.
Well, not really like the UN, just similar.
Votes# don't depend on total pop but on pop of cities with that religion. Also if your state religion is the AP religion your votes get doubles. Also the votes % needed is higher...
Gosha190
King
He have submitted his game as me. He did not speak english at all. I asked him via PM to post his final screen short, but he is recovering Windowos now and will post just after finishing.:serious::serious:
Gosha190
King
the same for AI's cities if they are in AP religion
Grey Cardinal
Monarch
Cultural Victory in 1050AD, Contender.
Research:
Begin: Meditation, Mining, Agri, Wheel, Pottery, Writing, Alpha(2120BC). Trade other basic tech.
Path to Civil Service: Mono, Monarchy, Code, Math, CS (950BC).
Tech for Wonders: Metal Casting, Paper, Edu(Oracle,750BC), Aesthetics, Drama, Theology, Currency, Calendar,Literature, Music (400BC).
Finish: Phil, Machinery, Press, Liber(50AD) to Nationalism
GP:
2 GS - 1360BC and 825BC(50% GS and 50% GA). Academy in Madrid and Barsa.
1 GP - GAge
9 GA
Wonders:
750BC Oracle
575BC Parthenon
525BC Pyramids (no purpose)
425ВС Apostolic Palace
425ВС Zeus
250BC Sistine Chapel
200BC Mausoleum
580AD Taj
860AD Notre Dame
revolt on Pacif+Caste+Free Speech and 100% to culture in 425AD
Research:
Begin: Meditation, Mining, Agri, Wheel, Pottery, Writing, Alpha(2120BC). Trade other basic tech.
Path to Civil Service: Mono, Monarchy, Code, Math, CS (950BC).
Tech for Wonders: Metal Casting, Paper, Edu(Oracle,750BC), Aesthetics, Drama, Theology, Currency, Calendar,Literature, Music (400BC).
Finish: Phil, Machinery, Press, Liber(50AD) to Nationalism
GP:
2 GS - 1360BC and 825BC(50% GS and 50% GA). Academy in Madrid and Barsa.
1 GP - GAge
9 GA
Wonders:
750BC Oracle
575BC Parthenon
525BC Pyramids (no purpose)
425ВС Apostolic Palace
425ВС Zeus
250BC Sistine Chapel
200BC Mausoleum
580AD Taj
860AD Notre Dame
revolt on Pacif+Caste+Free Speech and 100% to culture in 425AD
Gosha190
King
it's strange fore me that I did all as you but significantly earlier... and better
... and lost to you.Seems I researched some excessive techs - It is only explanation, I can find.
Please, post your cities final screen shorts!
Grey Cardinal
Monarch
Well done!
Oracle for Education... You researched CS+MC+Paper out of Bureaucracy.
Wouldn't it have been better to get CS from Oracle and then research MC+Paper+Educ under Bureaucracy?
Researching Machinery and PP... Was it worth it? Did you do the numbers?
You got Liber 50AD but didin't go 100% culture till 425AD, why? What were you doing that time?
FS 425AD ???????
Looks like a mistake, why not FS 50AD?All of Phil, Machinery, Press, Liber from 400BC to 50AD? Outstanding research rate!!!
Nice game Grey Cardinal! I was predicting experts might beat 1000AD, though, so I'm still waiting for experts to report.
Grey Cardinal
Monarch
Well done!
Oracle for Education... You researched CS+MC+Paper out of Bureaucracy.
Wouldn't it have been better to get CS from Oracle and then research MC+Paper+Educ under Bureaucracy?
Difference cost between Bureaucracy and Educ 1300 bulb. The difference between 1280 BC (begin research CS) to 950 BC is 9 turn. Research rate in Madrid was ~70 bulb/turn, after CS 105 bulb/turn. 9*35=315<<1300. Second GS is not planned.
Researching Machinery and PP... Was it worth it? Did you do the numbers?
You got Liber 50AD but didin't go 100% culture till 425AD, why? What were you doing that time?
FS 425AD ???????
All of Phil, Machinery, Press, Liber from 400BC to 50AD? Outstanding research rate!!!
Research rate in 375BC(after Univesity) was 270 bulb/turn, in 1AD - 310(Madrid 200 bulb without Oxford).
I Researched Machinery and PP and do not go to 100% culture after liber, because сity did not have all Cathedrals.
Fs in 425AD is my mistake, i forgot, what lider is Spiritual
Gosha190
King
I played constantly at 100% research rate since 725BC.
year bpt
725BC 117
600BC 165
500BC 177
400Bc 211
300BC 228
200BC 288
100BC 324
1AD 342
100AD 367
200AD 389
300AD 416
400AD 448
I didn't build a university.
Gosha190
King
But you have built second academy!
Your calculations is not enough objective. You have lost hammer component. Compare capital production in our's games!And I think that University is too expensive to build it even in capital.
PS Congrats with a very good calculated game!
But I like my cities much more then yours puny cities.
Surely it was possible to Oracle CS earlier then 1280BC. And it also gives hammers.
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