King Pluto
Emperor
I rolled a great Isabella start this morning (IMM/Norm/Fractal) and have played until 575 BC. I've come across a decision point that I thought would make for interesting discussion. I've also attached the start, so if you want to play it, spoilers below.
Starting location:
Game discussion and question starts here!
I have a great capital location that's been powering my research and expansion. GK, Shaka, Brennus and Zara are all part of a Jewish bloc, and they aren't close (I just found GK to the north, separated by jungle). To my east is Julius Caesar, the only Hindu. I have great income and want to try to push my expansion north against JC, but I'm afraid of a DOW from him.
My situation leading to my question: I went for Aesthetics and now I find myself holding Alpha/Aesthetics/Math over GK and Shaka. I can war-bribe GK against Zara, or Shaka against Zara/JC/GK. Unfortunately, neither can be bribed against Brennus.
The way I see it the game is full of war-prone AI, and many of them are going to be buddies (peaceweights + shared religion). To try and keep myself from getting declared on in the near future, I think I can either:
1. Bribe Shaka in on Julius to keep him busy. I could then get GK to dogpile JC to really mess with him (I tried this and it worked). With my neighbor busy, I can safely convert to Judaism like the rest of the world and start building relationships to keep the rest of the war-mongers away from me.
2. Bribe all the Jews to war with each other. I could either get a dogpile on Zara or have GK vs. Zara and Shaka. While the Jews get all angry with each other, I can swap to Hinduism and get JC to Pleased. This will help me beg gold and small techs to keep him off my back. (Note: he plots at Pleased).
What would you do? Would you rather keep a potential threat at bay using diplo, or war bribes? Want to try? The 575 BC save is also attached.
Some screens:
Northern land:
Southern land:
Techs:
Diplo:
Starting location:
Spoiler :
Game discussion and question starts here!
I have a great capital location that's been powering my research and expansion. GK, Shaka, Brennus and Zara are all part of a Jewish bloc, and they aren't close (I just found GK to the north, separated by jungle). To my east is Julius Caesar, the only Hindu. I have great income and want to try to push my expansion north against JC, but I'm afraid of a DOW from him.
My situation leading to my question: I went for Aesthetics and now I find myself holding Alpha/Aesthetics/Math over GK and Shaka. I can war-bribe GK against Zara, or Shaka against Zara/JC/GK. Unfortunately, neither can be bribed against Brennus.
The way I see it the game is full of war-prone AI, and many of them are going to be buddies (peaceweights + shared religion). To try and keep myself from getting declared on in the near future, I think I can either:
1. Bribe Shaka in on Julius to keep him busy. I could then get GK to dogpile JC to really mess with him (I tried this and it worked). With my neighbor busy, I can safely convert to Judaism like the rest of the world and start building relationships to keep the rest of the war-mongers away from me.
2. Bribe all the Jews to war with each other. I could either get a dogpile on Zara or have GK vs. Zara and Shaka. While the Jews get all angry with each other, I can swap to Hinduism and get JC to Pleased. This will help me beg gold and small techs to keep him off my back. (Note: he plots at Pleased).
What would you do? Would you rather keep a potential threat at bay using diplo, or war bribes? Want to try? The 575 BC save is also attached.
Some screens:
Northern land:
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Southern land:
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Techs:
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Diplo:
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