BUG REPORT, F.A.Q. and known issues

[Drakarska]

Ok, yep. BUG settings are the issue. In the below SS's, you'll see that I have BUG settings unchecked, and I can build the tunnel.
The issue that causes the problems is the options "Hide unavailable worker actions" AND "Hide obsolete worker actions". If one is checked, tunnels will show on the MWB build option, but you can't build it. If both are checked, no option to build the tunnel will show on the MWB. The top 2 "Hide" options of the center column doesn't appear to bother anything doing with building a tunnel.. Lol, check the 2 boxes that I mentioned above and you'll have tunnel angst just like me

 

[<Nexus>]

Wow! I'm sure I won't be able to fix this thing, so I won't even waste any time on trying. But I'm glad you have found the reason and a workaround. I will add this to the known issues part.

 

[Drakarska]

Wow! I'm sure I won't be able to fix this thing, so I won't even waste any time on trying. But I'm glad you have found the reason and a workaround. I will add this to the known issues part.

No worries, just glad I don't have the angst anymore lol
Now that I know what the issue is, I can finish my other game. Thanks for working with me on this

 

[Mr Smith]

Or... how should it work? Should it decrease tech cost or add to it?

Realistic Timeline is logical and welcome, but in case of OR requirement boosts implied by RoM interface, it should result in a net decrease. Maybe it's not all that important with the current tech tree, but it's a missing feature with text still pointing to it.

 

[<Nexus>]

Realistic Timeline is logical and welcome, but in case of OR requirement boosts implied by RoM interface, it should result in a net decrease. Maybe it's not all that important with the current tech tree, but it's a missing feature with text still pointing to it.

Sorry, I meant: How does it work in vanilla Civ4?
I certainly want to look into it sometime in the future, hoping, that it's easy to fix

 

[Mr Smith]

How does it work in vanilla Civ4?

As shown by pottery screenshot, you get 20-25% discount for each OR tech requirement fulfilled. Displayed cost stays the same, but ETA is adjusted. This isn't the case for current CoM, despite RoM clarification.

 

[<Nexus>]

despite RoM clarification.

So it's working in RoM properly?

 

[Drakarska]

So it's working in RoM properly?

It seems to be on my ROM version.
I'm running 2 separate games on GEM, as Mr. Smith's commentary made me curious. Granted, on a GEM map, speed setting is marathon.
On the ROM version, the tech bonus appears to be running as stated, though with 30+ cities paying attention to math for the discount hasn't been a priority to see if the discount is consecutive.
On the COM version, it's a little more... strange? This goes back to my previous question concerning city specialists that don't stay as assigned every few turns, as they just seem to go back and work city plots, especially during a golden age. The tech bonus that Mr. Smith mentions seems a bit off as well, but since both of my games are in the Med Era, I haven't been really keeping track until just recently.
I'll probably just start a new game after I'm done with these, and start taking notes.

 

[Mr Smith]

So it's working in RoM properly?

I only learned about this originally hidden mechanic recently and I don't really play vanilla RoM, anyway.

 

[Drakarska]

Ok, this is new;
I don't think I've encountered not being able to offer a RoP on my side before.

 

[<Nexus>]

Interesting. Save file?

 

[Drakarska]

Oopsy. Sure thing, lol.

 

[<Nexus>]

Ok, this is new;
I don't think I've encountered not being able to offer a RoP on my side before.

Wow! I checked your save and it happens to me as well, even with other offers

 

[Drakarska]

Huh... Lol, well ok then.
Ghandi is the only one this happens with on my end.
I wonder if it's because of the BUG screen option issues. I'll double check my options tonight.

 

[<Nexus>]

Huh... Lol, well ok then.
Ghandi is the only one this happens with on my end.
I wonder if it's because of the BUG screen option issues. I'll double check my options tonight.

I don't think so. I have different settings.
I rather think that there was something happening just in that particular game that upset things. Even partially corrupted your save? I remember once I had an issue because I exited the espionage options improperly - I don't remember what exactly I did but it had my saves corrupted and I was experiencing some weird bugs and glitches.

 

[<Nexus>]

Huh... Lol, well ok then.
Ghandi is the only one this happens with on my end.
I wonder if it's because of the BUG screen option issues. I'll double check my options tonight.

I was thinking:
It's even possible, that it is not "diplomacy" related bug but merely a graphical one. You still cannot offer RoP on only one side - though it would make some sense.

 

[Drakarska]

Yeah, lol, not sure what's going on, as I hardly ever use the Espi screen.
I'm going to call it a weird save glitch, because now I can offer a ROP...
It's been interesting to say the least. Funny thing is, on my GEM game so far, I've had zero issues. Odd.

 

[<Nexus>]

Yeah, lol, not sure what's going on, as I hardly ever use the Espi screen.

That was just an example. I'm certain that this was a different issue and I hope we won't see it ever again

 

[sadris]

What game speed is this balanced for?

 

[<Nexus>]

CoM is designed for big games: shower speed and bigger maps.