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Build your own religion

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Borachio, Apr 12, 2012.

  1. Borachio

    Borachio Way past lunacy

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    Spoiler :
    Excellent, indeed!

    Thanks for the link. I shall look into it.

    edit: Sri Aurobindo has said, “...we do not found ourselves on faith alone, but on a great ground of knowledge which we have been developing and testing all our lives. I think I can say that I have been testing day and night for years upon years more scrupulously than any scientist his theory or his method on the physical plane.”

    This appears to be genuine stuff, to me.
     
  2. Mechanicalsalvation

    Mechanicalsalvation Universal aristocracy of the proletariat

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    Another Aurobindo:
     
  3. Borachio

    Borachio Way past lunacy

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    This is evidently fine stuff. I believe it would take me time to fully appreciate it. I'm afraid that my head has been full of Shakespeare for some years, and the rhythms of the two languages is completely different. Would you like to see some? BTW how's your Sanskrit?
     
  4. Joecoolyo

    Joecoolyo 99% Lightspeed

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    Don't cynics just suck the air out of the room?
     
  5. Borachio

    Borachio Way past lunacy

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    No, they don't.
    Check out Diogenes on Wiki.
     
  6. Mechanicalsalvation

    Mechanicalsalvation Universal aristocracy of the proletariat

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    Oh, yeah bring it on. I have just finnished Othelo the other day (Czech translation- and not a very good one...)
    I do not find the need for sanskrit atm.

    Edit: I have found this interesting comparison:
     
  7. Whiskey_Lord

    Whiskey_Lord Chieftain

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    I face life and death on their own terms. I don't believe in blowing sunshine up anyone's ass just to make them feel that life has some transcendent meaning. I stand by my point that eternal bliss would quickly turn into eternal boredom, even if it takes millions of years to become bored. The more I think about it, the more I realize that heaven/nirvana/whatever is an utterly childish fantasy and a cheap sales pitch.
     
  8. Traitorfish

    Traitorfish The Tighnahulish Kid

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    That depends what you mean by "happy". A Benthamite pleasure, sure, I had a nice cup of coffee this morning. But an Aristotilean eudaimonia? Probably not, if I'm honest with you.
     
  9. rugbyLEAGUEfan

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    I really like the terms of the new religion in the OP , and as long as I don't have to do stuff , I'm in .
     
  10. Whiskey_Lord

    Whiskey_Lord Chieftain

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    Honestly, I think the best deal would combine reincarnation with a world without poverty. After all, the only problem with being reincarnated is the high chance of being born into some third world hellhole. Also, a lack of interventionist deities would be nice too.
     
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    Joecoolyo 99% Lightspeed

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  12. Borachio

    Borachio Way past lunacy

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    Sounds like Diogenes to me, sir. I shall make sure not to come between you and the sun.

    I hope you have a nice cup of coffee tomorrow morning.

    Are we not all free agents?

    Yes, I like the idea of reincarnation. What has intrigued me though is why people always think that they will be reincarnated at some future date. Rather than an earlier one(!). I see no reason to suppose it will be either. I have no information about this matter. Do you?

    Oh, look this is. New Cynics.
    edit:
    What did you think of Diogenes?
     
  13. Borachio

    Borachio Way past lunacy

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    Sonnet
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    Being your slave what should I do but tend,
    Upon the hours, and times of your desire?
    I have no precious time at all to spend;
    Nor services to do till you require.
    Nor dare I chide the world-without-end hour,
    Whilst I (my sovereign) watch the clock for you,
    Nor think the bitterness of absence sour,
    When you have bid your servant once adieu.
    Nor dare I question with my jealous thought,
    Where you may be, or your affairs suppose,
    But like a sad slave stay and think of nought
    Save where you are, how happy you make those.
    So true a fool is love, that in your will,
    (Though you do any thing) he thinks no ill.
     
  14. Whiskey_Lord

    Whiskey_Lord Chieftain

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    How does not desiring/caring about an afterlife or religion in general make one a cynic?
     
  15. Borachio

    Borachio Way past lunacy

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    From 714 Things To Be Cynical About

    Spoiler :
    1. leaders
    2. followers
    3. outlaws
    4. lawyers
    5. backstabbers
    6. brown-nosers
    7. yes-men
    8. middlemen
    9. alpha males
    10. women who try to be alpha males
    11. good ol' boys who become president
    12. bimbos who become celebrities
    13. all other celebrities
    14. prima donnas
    15. dictators
    16. people who take dictation
    17. workaholics
    18. slackers who pretend to be workaholics
    19. hypocrites
    20. charlatans
    21. MBA's
    22. mindless office drones who get promoted to management
    23. conformists
    24. non-conformists
    25. poseurs

    and on

    714 is only the beginning.
     
  16. Borachio

    Borachio Way past lunacy

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    It doesn't necessarily. How might you best describe yourself? (I don't need to know)

    But in any case what's wrong with being a cynic?
     
  17. Whiskey_Lord

    Whiskey_Lord Chieftain

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    I suppose the best label would be material humanist.
     
  18. Tycho Brahe

    Tycho Brahe Chieftain

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    I just want a place where you can have funerals and weddings. With music. Elvis is nice.

    Also pancakes.
     
  19. Borachio

    Borachio Way past lunacy

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    humanism and dualism
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    Yes. I like the material bit. I have always thought (and this is only my personal view) that the world is essentially only one thing, i.e. I've never taken to any dualistic funny business - for my own use. It simply doesn't work for me. I'm happy with people who say there's nothing but the material. And equally happy with those who say there's nothing but the spiritual. But if you say that there's both I don't see what mechanism could pass information between the two.

    On the other hand, if someone is happy thinking along the lines of a dualistic world, I cannot conceive of any reason why they should not do so.

    Of humanism, I know virtually nothing. What can you tell me?
    Right. Funerals. Weddings. Elvis. Silly Hats. Pancakes. (all optional)
     
  20. Perfection

    Perfection The Great Head.

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    I most certainly am not a member of the self-denying religion.

    Did you know that the most important practice of the self-denying religion is denying your own membership?
     

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