Can you guess the fleas in this circus?

[Broken_Erika]

Yes, as we all know the Nobel committee is a bunch of radical leftists intent on destroying America.

 

[Naskra]

I didn't know that. I thought they were just Swedes of poor judgement.

 

[Lexicus]

Obama donated all the money from the Nobel prize.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

Obama donated all the money from the Nobel prize.

And probably not because he is an altruist, but more likely because unlike Bannon he actually cared about not flouting the law.

 

[Naskra]

I dunno, there's Obama in the photo, holding his big colorful gift, emolument and title, surrounded by foreign officials, kings and princes. Seems like he's trying his damnedest to flout the law -
in the full faith and confidence that excuses will be for made him.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

I dunno, there's Obama in the photo, holding his big colorful gift, emolument and title, surrounded by foreign officials, kings and princes. Seems like he's trying his damnedest to flout the law -
in the full faith and confidence that excuses will be for made him.

Obama donated all the money from the Nobel prize.

Sooooo....

Do you not bother to read at all, or do you just ignore facts when they don't fit your false narrative?

 

[Naskra]

What Obama did with the money is immaterial. (though that was also a violation of law, a law written expressly to handle Obama's predicament)
The lesson here is that are you are selectively finding constitutional violations and not even doing it well; the Egyptian in question is not a foreign government.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

What Obama did with the money is immaterial. (though that was also a violation of law, a law written expressly to handle Obama's predicament)
The lesson here is that are you are selectively finding constitutional violations and not even doing it well; the Egyptian in question is not a foreign government.

The egyptian in question is a former member of the national legislature.

 

[Naskra]

Right

 

[Timsup2nothin]

Wow, simple agreement with a fact...how refreshing.

 

[Naskra]

Yes, try facts more often.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

Yes, try facts more often.

Why? You have mostly ignored them. Overall, you've expressed ignorance based false narratives and acted the jerk. Unless you can provide some reason that I should heed your request you wasted your time making it.

And just for the record I don't see anywhere in this thread that I've posted anything but facts.

 

[Naskra]

I have not ignored your facts, only corrected the ones that were "alternative" in nature. Posts 14 & 16 eg

 

[Timsup2nothin]

A disagreement over whether a former member of parliament is or is not a representative of a foreign government does not make those posts "not facts" in the context of this situation. You may think that Bannon is such a swell guy that the Egyptian (or Breitbart) is giving him free rent with no expectations but the pleasure of his company, and that's certainly your prerogative. But I wouldn't spend time with the cretin unless he paid me, so it is hard for me to imagine anyone giving him free rent for that reason.

 

[Naskra]

The fact in question is whether or not a foreign national is the same thing as a foreign government. I maintain they are not the same thing. If you wish to argue otherwise, go right ahead. If you wish to muddy the issue with "representative" of a foreign government continue on. Sure, Egyptian guy might be so labeled. If you wish to convince me that Bannon is an Egyptian agent, you must do much better work. Do you even believe it yourself?

 

[Timsup2nothin]

The fact in question is whether or not a foreign national is the same thing as a foreign government. I maintain they are not the same thing. If you wish to argue otherwise, go right ahead. If you wish to muddy the issue with "representative" of a foreign government continue on. Sure, Egyptian guy might be so labeled. If you wish to convince me that Bannon is an Egyptian agent, you must do much better work. Do you even believe it yourself?

Do I believe that Bannon is trading favors with the guy giving him free rent? Absolutely. The guy got favorable coverage from Breiitbart for no readily apparent other reason when Bannon was at Breitbart. There is absolutely NOTHING anywhere that indicates that Bannon or the Egyptian are paragons of morality and the free rent is given without expectation of something in return. And one look at Bannon suggests that it ain't sex.

Do you think that "unless you are actually a foreign agent anything goes" is the standard that should be applied to public officials?

As to "is a foreign national the same thing as a foreign government?" NO.

For example, I go to Mexico reasonably often. In no way shape or form do I represent the US government, and absolutely no one would ever entertain the notion that I might. No one could possibly think that I could serve as a conduit to my former fellows in congress, because I have no former fellows in congress since I've never been a member of congress. I would say that very few people in Mexico even would guess that I was in the US Navy some number of decades ago, and if they did they would certainly recognize that I am not in any sort of contact with that navy today.

The situation at hand is nowhere near so clear cut. It is the kind of situation that I would have avoided, even at personal expense, when I was a government employee with a security clearance...and I wasn't a "top advisor" to the President who sat in on Presidential level national security briefings. Not by a long shot.

While I regret the way I worded those posts I do not think they are "non factual" in the context. THIS foreign national is difficult to distinguish from "representative of a foreign government." I also think that trying to steer the conversation into a referendum on whether I should "try facts more often" was either unfounded snark or a blatant red herring.

 

[Naskra]

My original point, to which I return, was that your case against Bannon is really thin. These possible irregularities in his housing situation just don't amount to much. Renting from a foreigner is not a crime. Accepting a gift from a foreigner is not a crime (though can be under certain etc)
Personally, I'd be fine if Bannon was looking after the interests of the gyppos. I just don't want him taking any interest in my affairs.

Do you think that "unless you are actually a foreign agent anything goes" is the standard that should be applied to public officials?

I think we are long long past the point of worrying about standards of public officials.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

My original point, to which I return, was that your case against Bannon is really thin.

Well, I never intended this little flea hunt to reach "so drop this trivial 'Russians installing their man in the White House' investigation and look at this!" status.