Dancing Hoskuld
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Attached is the fix, I can't test at the moment as I an only a third through the changes to animals Rwn and I are doing.
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Caveman 2 Cosmos (ideas/discussions thread)
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DocBuchanan
Combat Medic
I'm one of the fans who takes long breaks, but keeps coming back to C2C. If this doesn't already exist, I suggest making a more centralized changelog, and possibly a secondary file (google doc, maybe?) that covers new features and how they work. The SVN thread goes over the changes in a commit, but if you haven't been consistently playing there's no way to know what you're talking about. For example, there was recently some conversation about demand buildings... but I have no idea what demand buildings are. Is there somewhere to find this more "basic" information?
Sparth
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Ok tested, its works for me.
Dancing Hoskuld
Deity
We did have a thread here that was supposed to have the change log at the player level but it just ended up being the same as was put on the SVN so fell out of use.
Demand is a new concept that we are playing with. I have only done one set based on the Crafts Hut -> Hypermarket set of buildings. In this case not having them causes a certain amount of unhappiness per population. When you build the building the unhappiness goes away. The discussion is here
Do we have a FAQ thread? Where the opening post (OP) contained answers to the most frequently asked questions and anyone can post additional ones. We should have. @Joseph: Do you have a good enough overview to set up that OP?
Dancing Hoskuld
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We do and it is stickied.
Ha, I looked at the sticked before my last post, I can be very absent-minded sometimes.
strategyonly
C2C Supreme Commander
@Sparth
Can you start putting all those files into the correct FPK's I'd really appreciate it, thx. . .
Can you start putting all those files into the correct FPK's I'd really appreciate it, thx. . .
Sparth
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For game-play purposes I think it would be better if trade along coast requires boat building (or even sailing), and let raft building only open trade along rivers. I know rafts can traverse coastlines, but early expansion is made very easy by this.
Transporting large amount of resources by coastline on rafts was probably not a common thing in the prehistoric era anyway.
Transporting large amount of resources by coastline on rafts was probably not a common thing in the prehistoric era anyway.
JosEPh_II
TBS WarLord
While I agree that rafts should be as you stated. Will it be a coding problem?
I disagree though about early expansion being made "easy" because of this. Early Expansion is Not as easy as it's been made out to be especially before Sed Life, unless you are playing on a difficulty at or below Noble, or on a ridiculously long gamespeed.
(Warning: Rant On and Please! don't take it personal as it's a general all inclusive rant)
How many times must this Mod go thru this "Kill Expansion" craze? Especially when many of those having "trouble" with it are playing on Gamespeeds that exaggerate and compound the "Perceived Problem", Eternity and Eons. Cut these 2 Gamespeed in 1/2 and this "problem" will also be reduced by over 1/2. Eternity's 14,305 turns is so out of line with All the mod's mechanics that it borders on the side of ludicrous. 7,000 turns is crazy long enough. When will someone besides me say Whoa! enough is enough!
(Rant now Off).
Thank you for your patience.
JosEPh
I agree (I'd even say trade across rivers could also be pushed later), currently it's a bit easy to connect distant cities to the trade network without roads, just with rivers and/or coast. And I don't play slower than Snail
What about pushing coastal trade all the way to Ship Building (at the beginning of Classical era)?No, I'm pretty sure this is decided by a couple of boolean tags in the specific techs, so just a matter of a tag value swap between two techs.
Another argument would be that this would make the placement of city number two and three a bit more interesting, as there will be a small (Small even in eternity/deity games) period where resources only are shared by roads and rivers.
I would hardly say this is about "killing" early expansion, rather about giving game mechanics more depth for the player to explore.
Np. ^^Thank you for your patience.
JosEPh
Dancing Hoskuld
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Iirc there is only one tag and it allows trade by river and coast.
Oh, that complicates the matter.
platyping
Sleeping Dragon
Code:
<TerrainTrades>
<TerrainTrade>
<TerrainType>TERRAIN_COAST</TerrainType>
<bTerrainTrade>1</bTerrainTrade>
</TerrainTrade>
</TerrainTrades>
<bRiverTrade>1</bRiverTrade>Nope
Dancing Hoskuld
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Faustmouse
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Well that wont work in C2C as we have 3 types of coast
It is TerrainTrades, so shouldn't it be possible to have something like this:
Code:
<TerrainTrades>
<TerrainTrade>
<TerrainType>TERRAIN_TROPICAL_COAST</TerrainType>
<bTerrainTrade>1</bTerrainTrade>
</TerrainTrade>
</TerrainTrades>
<TerrainTrade>
<TerrainType>TERRAIN_ARCTIC_COAST</TerrainType>
<bTerrainTrade>1</bTerrainTrade>
</TerrainTrade>
</TerrainTrades>
<TerrainTrade>
<TerrainType>TERRAIN_COAST</TerrainType>
<bTerrainTrade>1</bTerrainTrade>
</TerrainTrade>
</TerrainTrades>
<bRiverTrade>1</bRiverTrade>platyping
Sleeping Dragon
Code:
<TerrainTrades>
<TerrainTrade>
<TerrainType>TERRAIN_TROPICAL_COAST</TerrainType>
<bTerrainTrade>1</bTerrainTrade>
</TerrainTrade>
<TerrainTrade>
<TerrainType>TERRAIN_ARCTIC_COAST</TerrainType>
<bTerrainTrade>1</bTerrainTrade>
</TerrainTrade>
<TerrainTrade>
<TerrainType>TERRAIN_COAST</TerrainType>
<bTerrainTrade>1</bTerrainTrade>
</TerrainTrade>
</TerrainTrades>
<bRiverTrade>1</bRiverTrade>Faustmouse
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A yes. I was in a rush, thus the copy/paste errors Ty for correcting it!
Ty for correcting it!
