mariano
Chieftain
All communists in this thread would be kicked off from every Polish university in commie times. I've never seen communism concepts so different from The Only Right Marks-Engels Concepts. I had to read all this crap during the studies, although it was said I lived in real paradise of freedom. 
There is no REAL communism different from Polish or Soviet communism. Idealist communism doesn't lead to Soviet communism --- it IS Soviet communism. Even commie classics had to admit that communism leads to some form of despotism. I mean particulary Marks and Lenin who weren't such idealists as one could think. Marks wanted to be a theorist of universal history process, not a wild revolutionary. So he said:
1) Switching to next epoch of history (capitalism --> communism) is possible ONLY at the state of FULL development of previous epoch. You can't make it appear faster --- this was the principial sinn of all communist countries. If you want communism earlier, there is only one thing you can do --- make current capitalism even more capitalist: vote for ultra-liberals, tell your chief that you want lower salary for 50% more work including sundays and take part in global consumption of most useless things produced by extremly exploited labourers. International communism counts on you, Cornmaster.
2) Revolution is an immanent part of turning to next epoch. Being more accurate: BLOODY revolution. And again: it can't be puny revolution like so called Great Socialist November Revolution, when some guys wanted to come to power in Russia and stated that communist ideology will do. Revolution must be "automatic", the situation must be critical, capitalism must loose ALL of its economical, social and philosophical power. Only then. And what said Lenin about every revolution: it must be bloody, cruel and lead to despotic rule of few under many. Getting Marks and Lenin together: revolution leading to despotism is an origin sinn of communism. No other chance.
Robots theory looks more modern. But I can put together a story of democracy turning in "robotized democracy", not needing commie crap. E.g.: Labour unions get dissolved or delegalized. There are no labour law, wild capitalism is back. Producers see that employing robots is more economical and sack all workers. Unemployment grows to --- say --- 80%. Thanks to democracy this 80% goes to voting polls and chooses the party which orders the producers to pay for every robot a tax which is equal to former salaries which is given to people, who can now watch tv all day, collect stamps or play civ5. What an idealistic story.
There is no REAL communism different from Polish or Soviet communism. Idealist communism doesn't lead to Soviet communism --- it IS Soviet communism. Even commie classics had to admit that communism leads to some form of despotism. I mean particulary Marks and Lenin who weren't such idealists as one could think. Marks wanted to be a theorist of universal history process, not a wild revolutionary. So he said:1) Switching to next epoch of history (capitalism --> communism) is possible ONLY at the state of FULL development of previous epoch. You can't make it appear faster --- this was the principial sinn of all communist countries. If you want communism earlier, there is only one thing you can do --- make current capitalism even more capitalist: vote for ultra-liberals, tell your chief that you want lower salary for 50% more work including sundays and take part in global consumption of most useless things produced by extremly exploited labourers. International communism counts on you, Cornmaster.
2) Revolution is an immanent part of turning to next epoch. Being more accurate: BLOODY revolution. And again: it can't be puny revolution like so called Great Socialist November Revolution, when some guys wanted to come to power in Russia and stated that communist ideology will do. Revolution must be "automatic", the situation must be critical, capitalism must loose ALL of its economical, social and philosophical power. Only then. And what said Lenin about every revolution: it must be bloody, cruel and lead to despotic rule of few under many. Getting Marks and Lenin together: revolution leading to despotism is an origin sinn of communism. No other chance.
Robots theory looks more modern.
But I can put together a story of democracy turning in "robotized democracy", not needing commie crap. E.g.: Labour unions get dissolved or delegalized. There are no labour law, wild capitalism is back. Producers see that employing robots is more economical and sack all workers. Unemployment grows to --- say --- 80%. Thanks to democracy this 80% goes to voting polls and chooses the party which orders the producers to pay for every robot a tax which is equal to former salaries which is given to people, who can now watch tv all day, collect stamps or play civ5. What an idealistic story. 
