CFC vs Apolyton WWII Pacific Challenge SPOILER THREAD

[LouLong]

IF YOU ARE AN APOLYTON PLAYER, THIS THREAD IS NOT FOR YOU.

IF YOU ARE A LURKER, PLEASE REMEMBER THIS THREAD HOSTS THNGS THAT ARE SECRET AND SHOULD NOT BE REVEALED TO THE OTHER SIDE WHICH WOULD DRAMATICALLY LOWER THE INTEREST OF THE CHALLENGE​

This thread hosts the spoilers for the CFC team (Japan) of the WWII Pacific challenge between Apolyton and CFC.

For Allies (Apolyton) spoilers, please check the PBEM site at Apolyton (the spoiler thread is not running yet).

The main threads for this challenge PBEM are at CFC and at Apolyton

Spoilers here will be posted by our CFC team according to the latest news :

- Rcoutme : Japan
- Eric_A (replacement player for Japan and advisor).

The Poly team is made of :

- Theseus : USA
- Godking : Commonwealth
- Jshelr : China
- Paddy the Scot : Netherlands

Game : WWII Pacific conquest, MP version, modified so that Japan starts first and the Netherlands don't have the skip first turn (or two first turns) syndrom.

Other people can post in this thread, give support and vote to forecast what team (and what website's PBEM community !) will win !

Edit : apparently there is some community pride ! 3 votes at the moment, all in favor of our team !

 

[Random fan]

http://www.googlefight.com/cgi-bin/...Apolyton&B1=Make+a+fight!&compare=1&langue=us

 

[Sega Fanatic]

Just follow Eric_A's 1st turn strategy to the finest detail. I can say it is very effective as I have seen it in action twice now.

 

[eric_A]

Just follow Eric_A's 1st turn strategy to the finest detail. I can say it is very effective as I have seen it in action twice now.

You can find that here:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=1908453&postcount=29

 

[dgfred]

Our guys will prevail


@eric-- How did you handle Singapore area previously?

 

[eric_A]

Our guys will prevail


@eric-- How did you handle Singapore area previously?

In the other game we are up to August 1942 and I still have not
gone after Singapore. My plan was Burma and Borneo first. Burma
has been captured and Borneo still has 2 allied cities holding out.

 

[romeothemonk]

Signing up for the updates here. I think It might actually be good to heave the focus on making China squeel like a piggy.
Just for fun, I've been playing the different nations on Sid, and I think I like the Japanese, but I can't estimate the 4 techs research to 1 pace the Allies can put on.
(Do you research in this?) I usually turn all the research off, unless I am America (just to get marines), but Kamikazes can be very good.

 

[rcoutme]

The following was heard over the Japanese airways and decoded for the CFC Forum members only:

The elite Yokosuka Marines attacked Aparri and captured the city. The transport that carried them then landed with some infantry, tanks and artillery. The Artillery moved down the road and noticed some American tanks next to Manilla but attacked the city instead (doing nothing). The tanks hopped onto the hills next to Manilla and attacked the city, killing the GI unit defending there. Next, some marines from Saigon attacked the Flak that were left defending the city and captured the city and an artillery piece which was then used to bombard the American tanks.

The attack on Pearl Harbor was mostly a bust. If I saw correctly, I destroyed the two fighter wings, one battleship (at least is was one of the 3-hp variety) and one cruiser. Some of the other ships were damaged and Honolulu took some hits (I think the harbor is toast).

The 14th Tank Regiment attacked and captured the Commonwealth city of Bhuket.

A light tank unit died trying to take Hong Kong, but some Niponese infantry finished the job.

I used a lot of artillery and bombers to attack Rangoon and dropped the machine gun defenders down to 1hp. The 18th Infantry attacked and destroyed the Anzacs, for which they were promoted to elite. Another Nip regiment attacked the 1-hp machinegunners and was wiped out! The Elite 25th Mech. Infantry regiment then attacked the machinegunners (who were promoted and now had 2 hp's) and killed them. Finally another Nip infantry regiment finished the job of capturing Rangoon. This Regiment was also promoted to elite status and I will need to give them a name once someone comes up with one. (Note: they are only elite, not special, but since they got promoted, they should get named...)

The 5th Engingeer Battalion killed an Anzac unit near Kuala Lumpur.

The 2nd Maizura Marines captured Guam and were promoted to elite status (bombing did nothing at all).

A zero then bombed an American submarine that was located near Guam and was revealed by the destroyed that moved into Guam. The zero did one hp of damage.

Marines from Palau captured both Manakwari and Davao. The artillery in Palau was carried to Davao and used to bombard the CA Houston down to 1 hp.

Marines captured Puerto Princess (which was unoccupied).

My tank army attacked Foochow and killed one unit (an infantry). We expect to capture the city next turn.

Some marines tried a landing at Kudat, but failed to capture the city.

Finally, I attacked Sian with a Light tank (killing a unit but taking 2 hp damage) and then with the Niponese 6th Army (which captured the city). Some other Chinese units were also destroyed.

 

[romeothemonk]

Looks good. I like the start already. Can you post some screen caps so us mere mortals can kibitz?

 

[rcoutme]

I can not do screen shots, my computer is not screenworthy. You must ask Eric_A for those.

 

[dgfred]

Do you usually stay and keep Pearl Harbor? I am experimenting
in a current game with splitting my Japanese force there and 1/2 going to
America to bomb, strafe and sink units and resourses! What about
research, whats your strategy in 'past' games ?

 

[romeothemonk]

In my experience in lurking, splitting forces is a very bad Idea. The biggiest thing is making sure the US doesn't get nukes towards your big stacks. They will get nukes, it is a given. If they have no cities to launch from in the Far east then the Japanese can breathe a little easier. I am sure Eric_A and rcoutme are plotting the next major push, either on the Chinese or the Commenwealth East asia holdings.

 

[rcoutme]

Well...I surely am glad that somebody is sure of some planning. I have never played the Japanese in this scenario and I have only played this scenario once (as the Americans).

 

[dgfred]

In my experience in lurking, splitting forces is a very bad Idea. The biggiest thing is making sure the US doesn't get nukes towards your big stacks. They will get nukes, it is a given. If they have no cities to launch from in the Far east then the Japanese can breathe a little easier. I am sure Eric_A and rcoutme are plotting the next major push, either on the Chinese or the Commenwealth East asia holdings.

Yeah but would not sending a carrier force off the US disrupt both their
production, happiness and ability to form a force capable of making an impact
on the cities in the Far East? I'll let you guys know how my test goes . Has anyone noticed if the allies split up their
tech research and then trade among each other, will they RAPIDLY move
along the tech tree? Has the Apolyton team made their moves yet?

 

[rcoutme]

Well...I do know that you can not trade certain techs that lead to the A-bomb.

 

[dgfred]

Well...I do know that you can not trade certain techs that lead to the A-bomb.

Is there any way (chance) for the Japanese to get the bomb 1st or too? . How can we find out about the trading possibilities? Are
there any allied 'pros' out there?

 

[Sega Fanatic]

The US will go for the tech line to the Bomb, as they are the only ones that can really build them. The Commonwealth would probably research the tech for Marines, and share it, while the Dutch and the Chinese probably wont research much at all.

 

[dgfred]

The US will go for the tech line to the Bomb, as they are the only ones that can really build them. The Commonwealth would probably research the tech for Marines, and share it, while the Dutch and the Chinese probably wont research much at all.

Could you explain a little further? What do you mean by "they are the
only ones that can 'really' build them" . Why will the Dutch and the Chinese not research much at all?

 

[TrailblazingScot]

Japan should be able to win this scenario quite comfortably, so I'm confident of a civfanatic victory!

 

[Sega Fanatic]

Could you explain a little further? What do you mean by "they are the
only ones that can 'really' build them" . Why will the Dutch and the Chinese not research much at all?

The US has the most productive cities, that are very unlikely to be captured (im talking the mainland there). Therefore, they can build the Manhattan Project the quickest, and have a good steady supply of atomic bombs.

The Chinese and the Dutch need cash, so why bother spending it on researching, when they can get the techs for free from their allies? Although Fission cannot be swapped, they do not really need it, building an atomic bomb will take too long for them anyway.

On another note, I have never really looked into the possibility of the Commonwealth going for the bomb, but if both the US and Commonwealth go straight for the bomb, who is going to research the all important marine tech?

I don't know how much I should be giving away here, being in a heated match at the moment against Eric_A, but I hope I have been of some help.