jack merchant
Internationalist
A teaser for those watching: I'm halfway through my turns and things just got, er, interesting 
CG5 - The Warmonger's Revenge, Ottomans, Emperor
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jack merchant
Internationalist
Preturn: The Russians have Synthetic Fibers. They won't trade for lux, resources, or gpt, so I try to safely steal it. Our attempts fails, however the spy got away undetected. There goes 4460 gp, though <insert your expletive of choice here>. I'm going to turn off science - What do we need computers for, anyway ? It's not like we're going to build a spaceship - MA are what we need, never mind the MI. I'll make another attempt at Fibers in 4 turns.
Micromanage all the Korean, Aztec, Roman and former Greek cities to have little or no growth and run tax collectors in all of them. Also sell off a bunch of libraries in every corrupt city that had a border expansion. Disband a few obsolete units where encountered. We improve our income by about 115 gpt by doing so. Our income is now at 1420 gpt, this should be enough for a later attempt at synthetic fibers and a full upgrade. We don't want to lose 23 tanks for every metropolis that we attack.
Hurry a settler in Antium to get the Spanish spices. Hurry another settler in Pompeii when I notice a fur in neutral territory - we don't have furs yet and I intend to get those too.
Load up a transport in the island where Spain has its last city to land next to it next turn; however, it runs into a submarine and sinks ! Unload the transport near Birka. We should have let more airports finish - faster and safer than maritime landings to get the troops there.
I make peace with Spain. Luxes turned off. I *think* the top cities can take it
Wake up the workers near Edo to clear some pollution. Vetoed tank production in some cities for airports and in some cases, barracks (?!). May have missed some, though.
All that being done, I press enter.
IT We lose 3 tanks and a Sipahi in the American counterattack. American bombers and ships pund our Eastern shore.
1764 AD (1) WLTKD's erupt in most of the MM'd cities. The city of Van is Founded to claim the furs. Capture and raze Chengdu and Shanghai at the cost of two tanks. The three surviving tanks near Birka destroy the radar tower and capture the city, destroying 4 bombers and a battleship in there. Abandon the front concept to start gathering our artillery into one big stack near Baltimore. Send all the injured units back to Pompeii to heal. Disband some spare Sipahi to speed up airport production. We have workers to spare, so I build some airfields where squares remain unused. Lots of airlifts to Cumae. Land near Buffalo on the American northern coast.
IT lose 3 tanks to American counterattacks
1766 AD (2) Denizli founded to claim the spices. Hurry a harbor through a worker there. spanish workers moved in there to save them from being massacred by barbarians. Pillage American wines - they should have no more now. Start bombing Baltimore. Capture Buffalo (it has a barracks). Lose 2 tanks destroying the RT near Macao. Lots of airlifts.
IT lose 6 tanks to American counterattack - I'm beginning to change my mind about Computers. However, if the Russians get it, we'll have to start nuking their cities to have any chance of capturing them.
1768 (3) Spices come online, doing wonders for our happiness situation. Baltimore bombed - defenders are hurt enough for me to assault the city. We lose 2 tanks and 2 retreat but we raze the city and get a GL ! Switch Rome to settler so we'll have native wines for when we take on the Russians again. Another 2 tanks die and 2 retreat but we raze Macao, too.
Cathy will give us 16,380 gp for Fission, but I hold off. I don't want to speed up the tech pace and get Russia on the way to a spaceship. They have 10 metropolises that we would need to take to stop them. Doable, but tough.
I decide to build an Army with the leader but leave it empty until we get MA. We could rush the Manhattan Project but I doubt we really want to get nuclear unless it's really necessary.
40 tanks move into range of Seattle, and that's only half our tank army
IT We lose 4 tanks in the American counterattack; they lose 3. Russians found a city to claim the silks N of our Roman lands. Russians are also making headway against America; they have captured Atlanta and razed a city south of Washington. But then, they have MA to work with.
1770 AD (4) WW hits, only 2 cities go into disorder though. Global warming also rears its ugly head for the first time. This will be one messed up planet by the time we're done with it. Lose 2 tanks and 1 retreat but Seattle is burned to the ground. 17 tanks move in position to attack Houston. Arty/tank SOD's next target will be Detroit.
IT Lose 5 tanks in the counterattack, the Americans lose 4. Stupid me, I left one regular tank in Buffalo and of course it flips back to the Americans
1772 (5) Wage another attempt to steal Synthetic Fibers. Oh, crap. It fails and the Russians declare war ! Found the town of Not Constantinople to claim wines. Raze 4 Russian cities (2 to the North of Rome, the one on our continent and Atlanta), the money from the sackings recoups half the cost of the steal attempt already. The Russians don't have oil so they shouldn't get any more MAs than they have now. Which is good, because I lose 2 tanks at the first attempt to take one down. Luxes have to go back to 10%. Hurry a settler out of Edrine to keep it happy. I play with the slider a little and discover that it's cheaper to wait for another steal attempt than to research fibers on our own. However, we lose our progress on computers ????
3 tanks die and 2 retreat but Houston has a problem. Move our stack from Seattle next to Tsingtao.
IT Lose 4 tanks in counterattacks, all against the Americans.
1774 AD (6) Riots break out here and there, but nothing too major. Some entertainers hired or converted from taxmen. Raze Tsingtao at the cost of one tank. Kill an MA at a radar tower near it (it appears the Russians are using their MA to defend the radar towers
) Kill 3 MA in the neutral zone between America and Russia with arty and tanks. Raze Detroit (size 22) with no casualties. I think we have taken out the American oil as well. Move tanks along the American west coast and discover and kill another Russian MA. 20 American workers contribute their lives to the construction of a barracks at Not Constantinople.
IT Lose 2 tanks. The AI is stupid. The ships with which it has been bombarding our eastern coast move back into Reykjavik, which is on the verge of falling and does so to Russian Cossacks. An American Army attacks the arty stack which I used last turn to pound the Russian MA's; fortunately, I'd left them on a mountain covered by 2 tanks and 2 infantry. The army retreats back to Washington (never seen that before, I thought Army's didn't retreat).
1776 AD (7) Some more disorder breaks out. Raze Reykjavik. On the American front, our troops near Chicago and Philadelphia, on the Russian front,`we are slowly advancing on Vladivostok on their South coast.
1778 AD (8) Raze Chicago, size 21, at the cost of 3 tanks ( there was a tank in there, I suppose the Americans are still able to build them). I notice WW has gone up again, luxes go to 20% to forestall disorder. Troops move near Bergen and the Russian city of St. Louis.
IT We lose 4 tanks to counterattacks. The Russians kindly destroy the Spanish for us.
1780 AD (9) More WW-related unhappiness in the corrupt cities. Some of them are going to starve due to extra entertainers. Tough luck for them. Raze St. Louis and get another GL (no.10?). Raze Vladivostok, the loot amounts to 650 gp. Who said war never pays ? Kill 2 Russian MA, so far I haven't seen any attack us. Bombard Philadelphia and raze it, build an incense colony there. Move troops near Bergen, Washington and Hangchow.
I'm going to hand off a turn early as I've spent about 6 hours on this and want to enjoy the weather for a bit. There's a Leader waiting for instructions and an empty Army in Rome. I suggest filling it with MA. I think next turn or the turn after we can try to steal Synthetic Fibers again. Make sure the Russians don't get their hands on oil before we have MA, there's one in North America that they may try to get. The Russians are using mainly guerillas and cossacks now. It's possible that luxes can be turned down next turn because of the incense, but obviously the colony is at risk. The inf/artillery stack is near it.
The Americans still have oil , it appears, but otherwise they're in bad shape.
The upload feature doesn't appear to be working so I'll try again later to post the save.
Micromanage all the Korean, Aztec, Roman and former Greek cities to have little or no growth and run tax collectors in all of them. Also sell off a bunch of libraries in every corrupt city that had a border expansion. Disband a few obsolete units where encountered. We improve our income by about 115 gpt by doing so. Our income is now at 1420 gpt, this should be enough for a later attempt at synthetic fibers and a full upgrade. We don't want to lose 23 tanks for every metropolis that we attack.
Hurry a settler in Antium to get the Spanish spices. Hurry another settler in Pompeii when I notice a fur in neutral territory - we don't have furs yet and I intend to get those too.
Load up a transport in the island where Spain has its last city to land next to it next turn; however, it runs into a submarine and sinks ! Unload the transport near Birka. We should have let more airports finish - faster and safer than maritime landings to get the troops there.
I make peace with Spain. Luxes turned off. I *think* the top cities can take it
Wake up the workers near Edo to clear some pollution. Vetoed tank production in some cities for airports and in some cases, barracks (?!). May have missed some, though.
All that being done, I press enter.
IT We lose 3 tanks and a Sipahi in the American counterattack. American bombers and ships pund our Eastern shore.
1764 AD (1) WLTKD's erupt in most of the MM'd cities. The city of Van is Founded to claim the furs. Capture and raze Chengdu and Shanghai at the cost of two tanks. The three surviving tanks near Birka destroy the radar tower and capture the city, destroying 4 bombers and a battleship in there. Abandon the front concept to start gathering our artillery into one big stack near Baltimore. Send all the injured units back to Pompeii to heal. Disband some spare Sipahi to speed up airport production. We have workers to spare, so I build some airfields where squares remain unused. Lots of airlifts to Cumae. Land near Buffalo on the American northern coast.
IT lose 3 tanks to American counterattacks
1766 AD (2) Denizli founded to claim the spices. Hurry a harbor through a worker there. spanish workers moved in there to save them from being massacred by barbarians. Pillage American wines - they should have no more now. Start bombing Baltimore. Capture Buffalo (it has a barracks). Lose 2 tanks destroying the RT near Macao. Lots of airlifts.
IT lose 6 tanks to American counterattack - I'm beginning to change my mind about Computers. However, if the Russians get it, we'll have to start nuking their cities to have any chance of capturing them.
1768 (3) Spices come online, doing wonders for our happiness situation. Baltimore bombed - defenders are hurt enough for me to assault the city. We lose 2 tanks and 2 retreat but we raze the city and get a GL ! Switch Rome to settler so we'll have native wines for when we take on the Russians again. Another 2 tanks die and 2 retreat but we raze Macao, too.
Cathy will give us 16,380 gp for Fission, but I hold off. I don't want to speed up the tech pace and get Russia on the way to a spaceship. They have 10 metropolises that we would need to take to stop them. Doable, but tough.
I decide to build an Army with the leader but leave it empty until we get MA. We could rush the Manhattan Project but I doubt we really want to get nuclear unless it's really necessary.
40 tanks move into range of Seattle, and that's only half our tank army
IT We lose 4 tanks in the American counterattack; they lose 3. Russians found a city to claim the silks N of our Roman lands. Russians are also making headway against America; they have captured Atlanta and razed a city south of Washington. But then, they have MA to work with.
1770 AD (4) WW hits, only 2 cities go into disorder though. Global warming also rears its ugly head for the first time. This will be one messed up planet by the time we're done with it. Lose 2 tanks and 1 retreat but Seattle is burned to the ground. 17 tanks move in position to attack Houston. Arty/tank SOD's next target will be Detroit.
IT Lose 5 tanks in the counterattack, the Americans lose 4. Stupid me, I left one regular tank in Buffalo and of course it flips back to the Americans
1772 (5) Wage another attempt to steal Synthetic Fibers. Oh, crap. It fails and the Russians declare war ! Found the town of Not Constantinople to claim wines. Raze 4 Russian cities (2 to the North of Rome, the one on our continent and Atlanta), the money from the sackings recoups half the cost of the steal attempt already. The Russians don't have oil so they shouldn't get any more MAs than they have now. Which is good, because I lose 2 tanks at the first attempt to take one down. Luxes have to go back to 10%. Hurry a settler out of Edrine to keep it happy. I play with the slider a little and discover that it's cheaper to wait for another steal attempt than to research fibers on our own. However, we lose our progress on computers ????
3 tanks die and 2 retreat but Houston has a problem. Move our stack from Seattle next to Tsingtao.
IT Lose 4 tanks in counterattacks, all against the Americans.
1774 AD (6) Riots break out here and there, but nothing too major. Some entertainers hired or converted from taxmen. Raze Tsingtao at the cost of one tank. Kill an MA at a radar tower near it (it appears the Russians are using their MA to defend the radar towers
) Kill 3 MA in the neutral zone between America and Russia with arty and tanks. Raze Detroit (size 22) with no casualties. I think we have taken out the American oil as well. Move tanks along the American west coast and discover and kill another Russian MA. 20 American workers contribute their lives to the construction of a barracks at Not Constantinople.IT Lose 2 tanks. The AI is stupid. The ships with which it has been bombarding our eastern coast move back into Reykjavik, which is on the verge of falling and does so to Russian Cossacks. An American Army attacks the arty stack which I used last turn to pound the Russian MA's; fortunately, I'd left them on a mountain covered by 2 tanks and 2 infantry. The army retreats back to Washington (never seen that before, I thought Army's didn't retreat).
1776 AD (7) Some more disorder breaks out. Raze Reykjavik. On the American front, our troops near Chicago and Philadelphia, on the Russian front,`we are slowly advancing on Vladivostok on their South coast.
1778 AD (8) Raze Chicago, size 21, at the cost of 3 tanks ( there was a tank in there, I suppose the Americans are still able to build them). I notice WW has gone up again, luxes go to 20% to forestall disorder. Troops move near Bergen and the Russian city of St. Louis.
IT We lose 4 tanks to counterattacks. The Russians kindly destroy the Spanish for us.
1780 AD (9) More WW-related unhappiness in the corrupt cities. Some of them are going to starve due to extra entertainers. Tough luck for them. Raze St. Louis and get another GL (no.10?). Raze Vladivostok, the loot amounts to 650 gp. Who said war never pays ? Kill 2 Russian MA, so far I haven't seen any attack us. Bombard Philadelphia and raze it, build an incense colony there. Move troops near Bergen, Washington and Hangchow.
I'm going to hand off a turn early as I've spent about 6 hours on this and want to enjoy the weather for a bit. There's a Leader waiting for instructions and an empty Army in Rome. I suggest filling it with MA. I think next turn or the turn after we can try to steal Synthetic Fibers again. Make sure the Russians don't get their hands on oil before we have MA, there's one in North America that they may try to get. The Russians are using mainly guerillas and cossacks now. It's possible that luxes can be turned down next turn because of the incense, but obviously the colony is at risk. The inf/artillery stack is near it.
The Americans still have oil , it appears, but otherwise they're in bad shape.
The upload feature doesn't appear to be working so I'll try again later to post the save.
i can see why it took 6 hours
JM, if u want to e-mail save to me i can play now.
Email AFW240464@aol.com
JM, if u want to e-mail save to me i can play now.
Email AFW240464@aol.com
cgannon64
BOB DYLAN'S ROCKIN OUT!
Wow, as I said in the start of my turn, "We really wasted the world." This little Earth of ours has been under constant war...
Can you post a screenshot Jack? I'd like to see how much of the Eastern continent is ours - its hard to tell from reports. Anyway, good work. Seems that you, well, ended my deal with Russia prematurely.
Good, I'm really seeing it was a bad move.
Let's just see if we end up using nukes!
Can you post a screenshot Jack? I'd like to see how much of the Eastern continent is ours - its hard to tell from reports. Anyway, good work. Seems that you, well, ended my deal with Russia prematurely.
Good, I'm really seeing it was a bad move.Let's just see if we end up using nukes!
jack merchant
Internationalist
Here's the minimap - I haven't figured out PSP enough yet to figure out how to get an image of the main map small enough to post.
I didn't end the Russia deal by choice, naturally, however the bad thing about it wasn't trading them Rocketry - it was trading them oil !
I didn't end the Russia deal by choice, naturally, however the bad thing about it wasn't trading them Rocketry - it was trading them oil !
Will post report tomorrow but conquest in 1800ad
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads3/Osman_of_the_Ottomans,_1798_AD.SAV
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads3/Osman_of_the_Ottomans,_1798_AD.SAV
jack merchant
Internationalist
Great work, swiftsure, absolutely smashing 
I see our republic survived even this war ! Kudos to all for a great game.
Sipahi rock, so much is certain; the Japs, Aztecs, Koreans, Greeks and Romans were trampled by them. I may be content with a domination victory next time around, though
I see our republic survived even this war ! Kudos to all for a great game.Sipahi rock, so much is certain; the Japs, Aztecs, Koreans, Greeks and Romans were trampled by them. I may be content with a domination victory next time around, though
Aggie
Deity
YES! Congratulations to all of us!!!! 
Beaten on Monarch, beating Emperor. This has to go in my HOF
Also congrats cromagnon, shame you weren't able to play the most fun part
EDIT: You're right Jack M. The game was over, but we had to finish it, because domination wasn't allowed. Nice to win conquest though.
I'm very curious about CG6
CGannon, finally you were able to finish one of your SG's
Beaten on Monarch, beating Emperor. This has to go in my HOF Also congrats cromagnon, shame you weren't able to play the most fun part
EDIT: You're right Jack M. The game was over, but we had to finish it, because domination wasn't allowed. Nice to win conquest though.
I'm very curious about CG6
CGannon, finally you were able to finish one of your SG's
cgannon64
BOB DYLAN'S ROCKIN OUT!
Originally posted by Aggie
CGannon, finally you were able to finish one of your SG's
[dance] YES! Finally, an SG win.
Good to see its all done. Congrats to everyone, we all did a great job. Coming back for a win on Emperor is huge. Too bad Cromagnon wasn't here to see it...I'm making CG6 tonight/tomorrow, BTW.
jack merchant
Internationalist
Count me in ! (as long as it's v1.14 )
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cgannon64
BOB DYLAN'S ROCKIN OUT!
Originally posted by jack merchant
Count me in ! (as long as it's v1.14
I said (in the thread above) that it was 1.21f. However, I haven't patched yet, so I'll go change that.
Aggie
Deity
Were is the save and storyline swiftsure? Gimme gimme gimme 
