China to rule under the waves.

It doesn't mean primitive to maybe be 5-10 tech behind on the tech tree.
 
Cutlass said:
It has nothing to do with race. It's about technical achievement level. And they are behind us.
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I don't know, the US is pretty behind in some technologies like anti-ship missiles. Still using Harpoons when even China has stuff like the Moskits.
 
Military application...torpedoes maybe. Torpedoes of conventional design are extremely effective though, so if the increased speed compromises other factors like accuracy or launch time it might not be positive for overall performance.

Underwater ICBM has merit, if guidance is manageable. Can only target coastal cities though so a lot of effort for a limited use item.

For submarines the concept is laughable. Submarine warfare is perhaps the only arena in modern warfare where 'speed is life' does not apply. In submarines, speed is a very distant second to stealth. The focus of research for military submarine propulsion technology is, and always will be, silence.

Non military applications...high speed submarine travel. Hilarious. Other than novelty value, there is absolutely nothing attractive about traveling by submarine. As someone who has traveled extensively on a submarine; it is never safe, and I recommend strongly against it...and the last place you want to be is on a submarine going fast.
 
This makes absolutely no sense to me. Supercavitation or not, you've still got to move that amount of water out of the way of the vessel. And moving stuff takes energy. Moving water takes more energy than moving air, no matter how efficiently you do it.
 
Thorgalaeg said:
About supercavitating, it seems penguins invented it millions years ago anyway:
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What he says about them releasing bubbles and increasing their speed as they exit the water sounds like they're using a pressure differential to assist exit. I don't think it's the same effect.
 
Cheezy the Wiz said:
Tone down the racism for a second, bro. The West is not the pinnacle of civilization and human achievement.
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Cutlass doesn't deserve that for his post... bro. He's made an observation based around expenditure and investment over time making a particular article less likely to be true than exaggeration. Given different evidence available I'm sure his assessment would change. He's given no indication that he thinks all them Chinese couldn't possibly read the technical manuals and research required to develop something like this.
 
Timsup2nothin said:
Military application...torpedoes maybe. Torpedoes of conventional design are extremely effective though, so if the increased speed compromises other factors like accuracy or launch time it might not be positive for overall performance.

Underwater ICBM has merit, if guidance is manageable. Can only target coastal cities though so a lot of effort for a limited use item.

For submarines the concept is laughable. Submarine warfare is perhaps the only arena in modern warfare where 'speed is life' does not apply. In submarines, speed is a very distant second to stealth. The focus of research for military submarine propulsion technology is, and always will be, silence.

Non military applications...high speed submarine travel. Hilarious. Other than novelty value, there is absolutely nothing attractive about traveling by submarine. As someone who has traveled extensively on a submarine; it is never safe, and I recommend strongly against it...and the last place you want to be is on a submarine going fast.
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But we could have submarine fighters and dogfights which would reach high levels in the coolness scale:

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Thorgalaeg said:
But we could have submarine fighters and dogfights which would reach high levels in the coolness scale:

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Can't argue with that. I actually think my far more pedestrian submarine creeping undetected through the depths was pretty cool itself. For 'cool toys to play with' you really would be hard pressed to top joining the military.
 
Boomers are cool in that OMFG WHERE DID THAT LEVIATHAN OF DEATH COME FROM kind of way.
 
Also because they're long, hard, wet, and full of seamen.
 
I liked this dialog in comment section:

I would just like to point out that a simple google search will inform you that the speed of sound in km/h is in FACT 1225.03 km/h, not 5,800km/h... Not that the chinese would lie or anything, but the math is wrong at LEAST.
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You are wrong. As the article says, it is the speed of "sound in water" which is around 4.3 times faster than in air depending on temperature, density and impurities.
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Who's going to be the first military to take combat under ground?

Not just with tunnelling, but with state of the art worm technology?

Some of the technology exhibited in this documentary programme is truly impressive, imo.


Link to video.

Though some of the humans in it seem, how shall I say, somewhat wooden? I don't know why that is, tbh.
 
bhsup said:
Boomers are cool in that OMFG WHERE DID THAT LEVIATHAN OF DEATH COME FROM kind of way.
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Imagine playing paintball in a pitch black warehouse. Your only chance of finding the target is if they make noise, and similarly you know you must be quiet. To hit the target with your limited ammunition you must choose...either totally rely on your hearing, or illuminate them with a quick flash of a penlight, knowing that the penlight has to catch them in the beam and you must fire quickly, because when you click on the penlight you have surely announced your own location.

Submarine warfare. It all boils down to penlights and paint guns.

Boomers, with their capacity to inflict planetary death, are a strange thing in their own right, no question about it.
 
There goes the whole stealth thing. And if you do not have the advantage of being unseen, then why not build a really fast surface boat?

I'm not sold on the underwater rocket idea as usable for anything besides a fast torpedo.
 
I think someone in Beijing has perhaps been playing too much Terror From The Deep. Can't really blame them as it's a great game, but not something they should be basing their defense offense appropriations on.

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<---hastily makes note to check out this Terror From the Deep.
 
So they just need 200,000,000 body suits and their army could be any where in the world in hours?
 
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